Kerry Friend Beau Dietl 'Shocked' by Assassination Plot

NewsMax.com ^ | March 20, 2004 | Carl Limbacher

[Carl/NewsMax]

Legendary former New York City homicide detective Beau Dietl said Saturday that he was "shocked" by reports that Sen. John Kerry participated in a 1971 Kansas City meeting of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War where a plot to assassinate seven U.S. Senators was considered.

"I was shocked listening to the story," Dietl told WABC Radio's Monica Crowley, who had just broadcast an update by the reporter who broke the news last week, The New York Sun's Thomas Lipscomb.

"I like John very, very much as a person," said Dietl, who's a personal friend of the Massachusetts Democrat. "But if this has any validity to it, it could be earth shattering."

Dietl said Kerry may have committed a crime if he took part in any discussions about the assassination plot.

"When you talk about killing somebody that's conspiracy to commit murder," he told Crowley. "At the point you talk about it you're guilty of a crime."

Dietl said it made no difference whether or not the plot was carried out, telling Crowley, "By just talking about it, it's the crime of conspiracy."

The former lawman, who now operates his own security firm "Beau Dietl & Associates," urged his old friend to come clean about the 1971 episode, warning, "Once they start to cover things up, that's when the crimes are going to start to begin again."

Dietl went out of his way to assure Crowley that, despite his comments, he has a warm relationship with the likely Democratic nominee, explaining, "John Kerry is a friend of mine. He was at my birthday party. I was at Mara Lago with him last year and he's a good person."

[kcamtx]

Has anybody named the Senators they wanted to kill?

[pfflier]

Kerry is out, accused of a felony. The competition is eliminated...Who will save the party????

Any bets the hildabeast! is behind this???

[kcamtx]

Remember Ma Clinton and the FBI files??????????

[shhrubbery!]

Carl, I think that's 'Bo' Dietl. Ain't no 'Beaus' up here in New York.

Good summation, btw. I heard the show.

[Humidston]

I'm not going to hold my breath that this will get past the alphabet/liberal media.

Reminds me of Juanita's sad tale about BJ Clintoon.

[oceanview]

let's see if he talks to Imus about this.

[Sybeck1]

He probably will fall back into party line when he goes to vote. Silly things like this will be looked over by the W. haters in the end.

[BushMeister]

This is a real issue. It's not enough to vote against assassinating US Senators, and then resigning from such a group. A good case could be made that Kerry should have gone to the FBI. But that would just have draw attention to the company he was keeping.

[Doctor Stochastic]

Legendary former New York City homicide detective Beau Dietl said Saturday that he was "shocked" by reports that Sen. John Kerry participated in a 1971 Kansas City meeting of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War where a plot to assassinate seven U.S. Senators was considered.

Why?

[GeronL]

"But if this has any validity to it, it could be earth shattering."

The media won't let that happen, I am sure.

The names were released. All conservative southern Senators, Strom Thurmond and the like.

[terilyn]

Have you seen the list? If so, do you know where I could find it?

[CedarDave]

"John Kerry is a friend of mine. He was at my birthday party. I was at Mara Lago with him last year and he's a good person."

Mara Lago? Could it be this place:

In Palm Beach, Florida, Donald Trump has converted the famous and historic estate owned by Marjorie Merriweather Post and E.F. Hutton, Mar-a-Lago, into the private, ultra-luxury Mar-a-Lago Club. It has just received the award from the American Academy of Hospitality Services as the "Best Club in the World."

Just another place where Kerry, who's for the common man, you know, can relax with family and friends.

[xzins]

Yes, it was on one of the original threads. They were pro-war Senators. I just don't remember their names or the thread it was on.

[Texasforever]

I think Hon has the list.

[GeronL]

darn I hate research =o)

Let me see if I can find it

[MoJo2001]

PING

[GeronL]

John Tower and Jesse Helms. Strom Thurmond? I think.... still looking

[hope]

Any bets the hildabeast! is behind this???

I would'nt doubt that the beast has a voo doo doll in her closet with John F'n Kerry's image on it.

[terilyn]

Thanks TF! I'll watch this thread then since you were so kind to ping him.

[terilyn]

Thanks so much, don't knock yourself out though. I can search. I thought you might have it.

I could have guessed Helms and Strom. Tower I hadn't thought of.

[dc-zoo]

Strange that John Tower died in a plane crash as did John Heinz. One of the congressmen on the list was shot dead a couple of years after the VVAW murder plot meeting. (Looking for my tinfoil hat).

[Hon]

Terry DuBose, who is quoted about this in "Winter Soldiers" said that there were six or seven Senators. They had all voted for funding the war.

"They had a list of six senators ... Helms, John Tower, and I can't remember the others, who they wanted to assassinate when they adjourned for Christmas."

In "Home To War" Camil (whose idea it was) was more vague:

"Camil now proposed the assassination of the most hard-core conservative members of Congress, as well as any other powerful, intractable opponents of the antiwar movement - the ones who would rather die than see America suffer a military defeat in Vietnam."

Kerry's Group The VVAW Discussed Assassinating Seven Pro-War Senators In December 1971
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1080806/posts

Was Kerry Involved In Plans To Murder 7 US Senators In 1971?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1095150/posts

But subsequent interviews have listed the Senators as southern, and including also Nunn. There have probably been others mentioned, but they have escaped my mind.

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

Remember Ma Clinton and the FBI files??????????

Cha-Ching! Sevens-Up!

The "Thing from Chappaqua" has spoken lod and clear.

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

The "Thing from Chappaqua" has spoken loud and clear.

[terilyn]

Thanks for that Hon.

And thanks for all your terrific work on this. I've been reading your posts for a couple of months now and am anxiously awaiting the next chapter!

[MadelineZapeezda]

Yep, that be the place.

[SouthCarolinaKit]

Bo, who's been a 100% Clinton man whenever I've heard him on IMUS, has one of the filthiest mouths on the air, but he does seem to understand the crime committed by Kerry. No wonder he pretended not to have been at the meeting until several people remembered having seen him there; then suddenly he stopped talking about it. Does an honest Democrat exist?

[Belisaurius]

Kerry is out, accused of a felony. The competition is eliminated...Who will save the party????


Right, we all know that being accused of a felony is an absolute disqualifier for the Democratic presidential nomination. :)

[Hon]

Thanks. Here's a hint from two earlier threads:

ALERT.. SUN Reporter Thomas Lipscomb on Monica Crowley WABC 770 at 1030 EST ^
			Posted by Hon to All On News/Activism ^ 03/20/2004 10:56:17 AM EST #40 of 63 ^ One of the most disturbing things about this is that one of Kerry's "band of brothers" (former VVAW member and currently) the head of Veterans For Kerry is LEANING on these witnesses to get them to shut up. He tried to lean on Musgrave, who is a disabled vet--but he held his ground. Barnes didn't.
Kerry hedges on 1971 KC meeting [for assassination plot] ^
			Posted by Hon to cyncooper On News/Activism ^ 03/20/2004 1:06:01 AM EST #43 of 64 ^ John Musgrave of Baldwin City, Kan., said Hurley called him twice and in the second conversation asked the disabled veteran to contact the newspaper reporter to say he had doubts about the memory. That's pretty outrageous, isn't it? I almost expect to see a Newsmax story based just on that line. As you know Hurley is more than just an organizer for vets, he is the head of Veterans For Kerry. And here he is pressuring some disabled vet to lie for Kerry. J "effin'" K disgusting! And it's clear that is what happened to Barnes and others.

[kellynla]

If my memory serves, there were only two names mentioned that were on the list, Senator Jesse Helms and Senator John Tower. I believe there were six or seven senators on the list though. Kerry should have reported this meeting. Conspiracy to commit murder is a felony. And being that the targets were U.S. senators makes it a federal offense.The statue of limitations has long expired but his political life may be falling into an abyss. This may be the nail in Kerry's political coffin.

[terilyn]

Thanks for those.

You've done an amazing job exposing this.

[Texasforever]

Right, we all know that being accused of a felony is an absolute disqualifier for the Democratic presidential nomination. :)

In reality it is a requirement. Otherwise there would be no Democrat nominee.

[terilyn]

You're so right. I hope the nail doesn't get driven home too fast. November is a long time from now.

At least Kerry is a known entity with a long record.

Unless of course Howard Dean wanted to jump back into the race ;)

[Howlin]

In your reading, did you discover whether Kerry actually voted no?

[kellynla]

statue=statute

[Rocky]

"Remember Ma Clinton and the FBI files??????????"

Wow! I think you have something there. Great connection. We will see how things develop.

[potlatch]

Ping

[kellynla]

"In your reading, did you discover whether Kerry actually voted no?"

"Hon" would know a lot better than I. He has been the one on top of this whole Kerry scandal. As I recall Kerry bailed out of the meeting when they started talking about assassinations.

My gut feeling is that these VVAW were just a bunch of "waanabes" probably most weren't even veterans much less Viet Nam veterans...and the Communist were probably behind them. Kerry was probably one of the few who was actually in Nam if only for four months.

[nopardons]

I think that you're right. Kerry was the " window dressing " for a lot of frauds!

[BulletBobCo]

Wouldn't the Bush camp already know of all this?

[ASA Vet]

I would'nt doubt that the beast has a voo doo doll in her closet with John F'n Kerry's image on it.

She's not a supernaturalist, she's been taking real action to achive her goal.

[Ursus arctos horribilis]

Beau Dietl is an arsehole.

I saw him on Anus In The morning show once where he and the Anus whipped out their pistols and started acting like a couple of jerks play acting about killing someone on the show.

It was about the most aggregious lack of firearms safety I have ever saw.

So his chargin about Skerry Kerry rings hollow to me.

[potlatch]

(Looking for my tinfoil hat).

[Rocky]

What's amazing is that some of the people who have challenged Kerry's account of this event have prefaced their comments with things like, "I support John Kerry. He's a friend of mine." It's not the Bush team that's inflicting the damage. So why would Democrats be doing this unless a more powerful Democrat behind the scenes was pulling some strings? Someone with access to damaging information on a lot of people, including Kerry and his "friends".

[potlatch]

The "Thing from Chappaqua" has spoken loud and clear.

Gurgled, you mean!

[kellynla]

"I think that you're right. Kerry was the " window dressing " for a lot of frauds!"
Lenin called them "useful idiots" LOL

[Howlin]

I thought I had read that he voted no and then shortly thereafter tried to disassociate himself from them.


To me, if he VOTED -- even though he voted no -- the fact that he sat there, listened, contemplated, and made a choice is about the end of him.

Of course, whether he voted or not, his failure to notify authorities speaks volumes about his character, morals, trustworthiness, and honesty.

[onyx]

Yeah, Potlatch.
That is a good one.

[potlatch]

LOL, suppose to be a 'thinking of you' gif, imagine that!!