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Ethnic Chinese, Taiwanese oppose Bush re-election (note - refers to American citizens)
Washington Times ^ | March 20, 2004 | Benjamin Hu

Posted on 03/21/2004 10:08:36 AM PST by pttttt

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:14:10 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

One of America's fastest growing minorities will vote against President Bush this year, according to a poll of Chinese- and Taiwanese-Americans. The poll also suggests that Taiwanese respondents are generally dissatisfied with President Chen Shui-bian, who faces a re-election vote on the island today.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush43; china; chineseamericans; disinformation; taiwaneseamericans
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Maybe this poll is part of a Chicom disinformation program. One can only hope so.
1 posted on 03/21/2004 10:08:42 AM PST by pttttt
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To: pttttt
A majority of respondents supported a Taiwan unified with China

Oh, okay, sure.

2 posted on 03/21/2004 10:11:14 AM PST by correctthought (Shop smart, shop S-mart.)
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To: pttttt
I know plenty of Chinese and every single one of them are political conservatives who plan to vote for Bush if they are citizens.
3 posted on 03/21/2004 10:18:19 AM PST by DallasMike
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To: pttttt
If they think living under communism is so swell, they are free to go back home and experience it first-hand. The operative word there is "Free"--under our system they're free to go back, but as they probably realize, once there they would not be free to return to the US. Fools. Do they imagine it is the wonderful government of the mainland that brought such prosperity to Taiwan?
4 posted on 03/21/2004 10:20:44 AM PST by Capriole (DO NOT WRITE IN THIS SPACE. FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY.)
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To: tallhappy
I'd very interested in hearing your take on this....
5 posted on 03/21/2004 10:21:11 AM PST by Artist
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To: pttttt; correctthought; Cincinatus' Wife; DallasMike; Capriole; Artist; snopercod
Millions join anti-China protest in Taiwan: organisers
Agency France Presse (AFP) story, Sunday, February 29, 2004 ---

More than 2.5 million people joined hands to form a 500-kilometre (310-mile) human chain stretching the length of Taiwan in a huge anti-China protest ahead of the island's presidential elections next month, organisers said.

The high turnout for the government-backed protest highlighting the threat posed to the island from Chinese missiles was likely to boost the re-election chances of President Chen Shui-bian, analysts said.

There was no independent confirmation of the figures but the opposition Kuomintang (KMT) disputed the size of the turnout.

The show of strength was designed to galvanise Chen's supporters before the March 20 ballot, with polls showing him lagging behind his sole challenger, Lien Chan of the KMT.

Chen, of the Democratic Progressive Party (DPP), was at the organisers' headquarters at Miaoli, northern Taiwan, for the "Hand in Hand" demonstration. He linked hands with former KMT president and pro-independence campaigner Lee Teng-hui.

"This is a historic event crossing ethnic, geographic, partisan, gender and age boundaries. There is no minority or majority in Taiwan. Taiwan is an integral," he said.

"Let us hold our hands, a simple but warm act, to tell the world and all people who care about Taiwan that 'we love Taiwan and want peace'."

The protest, running from Keelung in the north to Pingtung in the south of the island, was called on the anniversary of February 28, 1947 when thousands of native Taiwanese were killed by KMT troops from the mainland in a bloody riot against the new rulers of China.

The episode poisoned relations between the KMT and native Taiwanese for decades.

Television pictures showed crowds at least 10 deep at points on the route through Taiwan as pro-government supporters joined hands at 2:28 pm (0628 GMT).

In the capital Taipei, thousands wearing "Yes Taiwan" caps gathered at the 2/28 peace memorial park, named after the 1947 incident, for speeches.

Taiwanese communities were also due to form human chains in Dallas, Houston, Seattle, Toronto and Vancouver, the organisers said.

The opposition KMT has accused the DPP of creating an ethnic divide and organised its own show of support with leader Lien part of a group carrying "peace torches" into a rally in the southern city of Kaohsiung.

The torches had been taken on a two-week jog around the island by supporters.

In a statement released before the rallies, Lien made his own appeal to heal wounds among the island's different ethnic groups. "Everyone on Taiwan is native Taiwanese sailing together through glory and humiliation and sharing the same destiny," he said.

Chen has called the island's first referendum to run alongside the presidential poll and an estimated 15 million voters will be asked whether the island should arm itself with more missiles and hold peace talks with Beijing.

Nationalists fled to Taiwan in 1949 after communists won the civil war in mainland China and the island has since been governed separately. Beijing insists the island be reunified with China, by force if necessary.

Chen has toned down his pro-independence message in the face of opposition from home and abroad, but increased his attacks on China in the run-up to the polls.

Wu Tung-yeh, a professor of political science at National Chengchi University, said the rally would help the DPP campaign although it was too early to say if it would influence the polls.

"It is unlikely this rally will win over any of KMT's supporters. It may have some effect on neutral voters, but it is hard to tell how many they can win," Wu said.

Cheng Wen-tsan, a spokesman for the DPP, predicted the rally would catapult Chen into the lead of the closely fought contest.

"The target of the demonstration and the referendum is China, not the KMT. KMT has made a huge mistake by refusing to take part in this activity," Cheng said.

KMT spokesman Alex Tsai said the protest would have no effect on the vote on March 20.

 

6 posted on 03/21/2004 10:29:47 AM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: All
Americans of all races and ethnicities are patriots and conservatives -- maybe even patriots and liberal in the traditonal Truman-Humphrey sense -- but if someone cannot find enough to be proud of in America and has to attach a prefix then screw 'em.

an overwhelming majority -- 92 percent -- identified themselves as Chinese or Chinese-Americans, and the remaining were of Taiwanese origin.

Either you are an American or you ain't. I hope to live long enough to hear those sweet words, "Get out!"

62 percent of Chinese Americans gave Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao a positive rating.

"Now!"

What about native-Ameriicans? Hmm, "native" refers to here. All other hyphenates suck.

7 posted on 03/21/2004 10:34:06 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (Benedict Arnold was a hero for both sides in the same war, too!)
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To: pttttt
Source for the article referenced by Benjamin Hu at Cato ---

New California Media - Ethnic Media Nationwide

NCM is a nationwide association of over 700 ethnic media organizations representing the development of a more inclusive journalism. Founded in 1996 by Pacific News Service, NCM promotes ethnic media by strengthening the editorial and economic viability of this increasingly influential segment of America's communications industry.

NCM's goal is to

Since its founding, NCM has built strong working relationships with Ethnic Media organizations across California who are interested in raising their public profile, enhancing their editorial and business capacities, and playing a more active leadership role in the state's broader civic affairs. NCM is now poised to expand its vision nationally.

Read NCM in the News

While various media coalitions already exist, such as the National Association of Hispanic Publishers and the National Newspaper Publishers Association (NNPA), NCM has become the most comprehensive multi-cultural, multi-media coalition to reach beyond the mainstream media.

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NCM Editorial Exchange

NCM produces and aggregates some of the most diverse and cutting edge stories in the country. We are facilitating an inter-ethnic editorial exchange among our members. By digesting and syndicating the stories and voices that mainstream media misses, we are also raising the visibility of ethnic media and their audiences at a national level.
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NCM Media Services

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More about NCM Marketing
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NCM Trade Association

Recognizing the great diversity among ethnic media organizations as an asset to the overall network, we facilitate exchange among our members through social gatherings, forums, workshops, and our flagship EXPO & Awards, dubbed "The Ethnic Pulitzers."
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NCM Membership

Find out how to become a member of NCM, take advantage of member benefits, participate to further strengthen and integrate the role of ethnic media into our nation's civic life.

 

8 posted on 03/21/2004 10:37:28 AM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: Artist
The definition is not given and probably meaningless.

The people interviewed probably have as little tie to Taiwan as a person from Texas who was born in England lived on an Air Force base in England for a part of their youth.

That person isn't English.

9 posted on 03/21/2004 10:39:57 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: pttttt
Ethnic Chinese, Taiwanese oppose Bush re-election

The telephone poll organized by New California Media is the first nationwide multilingual survey to target Americans of ethnic Chinese origin, estimated at 2.8 million in the 2000 census.

Ethnic Chinese make up only 14% of the population of Taiwan. The headline is misleading because it implies that it surveyed ethnic Taiwanese, -- but it did not.

10 posted on 03/21/2004 10:42:16 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: pttttt
How many of these people are clamoring to become Chinese citizens?
11 posted on 03/21/2004 10:44:38 AM PST by skr (Pro-life from cradle to grave)
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12 posted on 03/21/2004 10:52:56 AM PST by international american (Support our troops!! Send Kerry back to Boston!!!!)
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To: pttttt
Very very weird....this just doesn't sound like what I here on a daily basis. And thats from a wide spectrum of Taiwanese.

I tend to agree with the PRC disinfo possibility.

13 posted on 03/21/2004 10:57:37 AM PST by Khurkris (Ranger On...)
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To: First_Salute
Good research on your part. PNS is a screaming rad/lib/socialist group.
14 posted on 03/21/2004 11:00:20 AM PST by Khurkris (Ranger On...)
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To: pttttt
I have lived in Taiwan and I can tell you with no uncertainty that this poll does not reflect what I have seen of the people in Taiwan. Supporters of DPP and KMT are both extremely suspicous of the PRC (Communist China) and NO SANE PERSON IN LIVING IN TAIWAN or with family in Taiwan would claim that the PRC has the right to attack Taiwan under any circumstances. If this poll was legitimate, and I have my doubts, then the poll is extremely skewed toward people who are from Mainland China and does not represent the views of people who are from Taiwan. Everyone should keep in mind that many people who are from Mainland China are still under the influence of its propoganda in spite of living in the U.S. for many years due to the fact that the PRC owns most of the major Chinese language media sources here in the U.S.
15 posted on 03/21/2004 11:31:09 AM PST by Avenger
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To: DallasMike
I'm also well acquainted with Americans of Chinese lineage, and are highly educated research scientists. Each of them travel to China at least bi-annually, and have on occasion extolled the virtues social life within present day China.

I have not attempted to learn of their views of America's political parties, but my guess is they will vote for those candidates who have a benign view of their ancestral homeland.

Inasmuch as both major political parties are predisposed to open border, and free trade policies now in place, an even democrat/republican split of this American sub-culture is a realistic possibility.

16 posted on 03/21/2004 11:34:17 AM PST by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: DallasMike
Agree, majority of Asian-Americans are conservative, with values similiar to that of Republicans. Unfortunately, the Republican party seems to have a knack in upsetting minorities. Not sure what can be done to change that image.
17 posted on 03/21/2004 11:37:55 AM PST by Fishing-guy (AL)
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To: FreeReign
The far majority of Taiwanese are ethnically Chinese. The Taiwanese dialects (there are two of them, I believe) are similar to Cantonese and Chinese dialect from Fujin province.

The 14% you mentioned may be the new Chinese immigrants who moved to Taiwan after the 1949 communist victory on mainland China.
18 posted on 03/21/2004 12:10:11 PM PST by Fishing-guy (AL)
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To: Fishing-guy
Well, I'm Asian American (of Chinese origin even), and quite conservative Bush supporter. I also know an Asian American who is also quite conservative too. I think in general, Asians are more conservative then other groups.

But thats outside my family. While I love my family...lets just say they are left-of-center (one...makes Kerry look moderate). However, when growing up, I was very liberal until very recently (even after 9-11 I was a closet Gore supporter before I saw the light). Living in the Bay Area has that effect.
19 posted on 03/21/2004 2:12:47 PM PST by Simmy2.5 (Kerry. When you need to ketchup...)
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To: pttttt
This is a poll of Chicoms. No real Taiwanese would ever hold such a view as revealed in this 'poll'.
20 posted on 03/21/2004 2:23:32 PM PST by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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