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Mark Steyn: We tried appeasement once before...
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 03/23/04 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 03/22/2004 4:06:01 PM PST by Pokey78

A neighbour of mine refuses to let her boy play with "militaristic" toys. So when a friend gave the l'il tyke a plastic sword and shield, mom mulled it over and then took away the former and allowed him to keep the latter. And for a while, on my drive down to town, I'd pass Junior in the yard playing with his shield, mastering the art of cowering more effectively against unseen blows.

That's how the "peace" crowd thinks the West should fight terrorism: eschew the sword, but keep the shield if you absolutely have to. Yesterday, The Telegraph reported that two Greenpeace activists had climbed up to Big Ben to protest at the Iraq war. Don't ask me why Greenpeace is opposed to the liberation of Iraq. It's been marvellous for the eco-system: the marshlands of southern Iraq are now being restored after decades of Saddamite devastation.

Nevertheless, the Greenpeace guys shinned up St Stephen's Tower, just as a couple of months before that a Mirror reporter blagged his way into a servants' gig at Buckingham Palace just in time for the Bush visit, and a couple of months before that an Osama lookalike gatecrashed Prince William's party.

History repeats itself: farce, farce, farce, but sooner or later tragedy is bound to kick in. The inability of the state to secure even the three highest-profile targets in the realm - the Queen, her heir, her Parliament - should remind us that a defensive war against terrorism will ensure terrorism. Tony Blair understands that. Few other European leaders do.

For more than a week now, American friends have asked me why 3/11 wasn't 9/11. I think it comes down to those two words you find on Holocaust memorials all over Europe: "Never again." Fine-sounding, but claptrap. The never-again scenario comes round again every year. This very minute in North Korea there are entire families interned in concentration camps. Concentration camps with gas chambers. Think Kim Jong-Il's worried that the civilised world might mean something by those two words? Ha-ha.

How did a pledge to the memory of the dead decay into hollow moral preening? When an American Jew stands at the gates of a former concentration camp and sees the inscription "Never again", he assumes it's a commitment never again to tolerate genocide. Alain Finkielkraut, a French thinker, says that those two words to a European mean this: never again the führers and duces who enabled such genocide. "Never again power politics. Never again nationalism. Never again Auschwitz" - a slightly different set of priorities. And over the years a revulsion against any kind of "power politics" has come to trump whatever revulsion post-Auschwitz Europe might feel about mass murder.

That's why the EU let hundreds of thousands of Bosnians and Croats die on its borders until the Americans were permitted to step in. That's why the fact that thousands of Iraqis are no longer being murdered by their government is trivial when weighed against the use of Anglo-American military force required to effect their freedom. "Never again" has evolved to mean precisely the kind of passivity that enabled the Holocaust first time round. "Neville again" would be a better slogan.

Among all the foolish apologists for the murderers of Madrid, it was the Reverend Mark Beach who happened to catch my eye. Preaching at St Andrew's Church, Rugby, nine days ago, Mr Beach said: "The people of Madrid are reaping the fruits of our intolerance towards those of different races and religions. The war in Iraq was never going to solve the problems of that region but instead inflamed Arab people all over the world to new heights of anger towards the West."

God Almighty. The sooner the Potemkin Church of England is sold for scrap the better. Almost every word of Mr Beach's is false; there are mosques in the English Midlands, but no Christian churches in Saudi Arabia. Its official tourism commission lists among prohibited categories of visitor "Jewish persons".

It is precisely because the West is so open to different races that Islamist bombers can blend in on Madrid commuter trains, and the Tube and the Paris Metro, in a way that, say, a team of blond, blue-eyed Aryan bombers certainly couldn't in Damascus. The war in Iraq has actually solved quite a few problems in that region, and Arab people all over the world aren't inflamed - the allegedly seething Arab street is as somnolent as ever.

In 2002 and 2003, I took a couple of two-legged, mini fact-finding trips - first to western Europe, then on to the Middle East. And both times I was struck by the way the Muslims of Araby were far less inflamed than those in the alienated immigrant ghettoes around Paris and Amsterdam. Life in the West, exposure to the self-loathing platitudes of Anglican clerics, these are the sort of things that seem to inflame Muslims. Many of the wackiest Islamists from Richard Reid to Zacarias Moussaoui to Metin Kaplan are products of the enervated Europe symbolised by the Rev Mark Beach.

A century ago, in The Riddle Of The Sands, the first great English spy novel, Erskine Childers has his yachtsman, Davies, try to persuade the Foreign Office wallah Carruthers to take seriously the possibility of German naval marauders in the Fresian Islands: "Follow the parallel of a war on land. People your mountains with a daring and resourceful race, who possess an intimate knowledge of every track and bridlepath, who operate in small bands, travel light, and move rapidly. See what an immense advantage such guerrillas possess over an enemy which clings to beaten tracks, moves in large bodies, slowly, and does not 'know the country'."

Davies wants Carruthers to apply the old principles to new forms of warfare. The Islamists are doing that. Their most effective guerrillas aren't in the Hindu Kush, where it is the work of moments to drop a daisycutter on the mighty Pashtun warrior. They're travelling light on the bridle-paths of Europe - the small cells that operate in the nooks and crannies of a free society, while politicians cling to the beaten tracks - old ideas, multicultural pieties and a general hope that things will turn out for the best.

That's the drawback of sticking with the "Neville again" routine: appeasement is even less effective when the faraway country of which you know little is your own.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
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To: Pokey78
Nobody says it better than Steyn......BUMP
41 posted on 03/22/2004 8:04:47 PM PST by JulieRNR21 (One good term deserves another! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: Pokey78; MeekOneGOP; Grampa Dave; Travis McGee
NEVILLE AGAIN!

And here is the paper which bears
Herr Laden's signature as well as my own.

42 posted on 03/22/2004 10:00:34 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Pokey78
Thanks for the ping, Pokey :-)
43 posted on 03/22/2004 10:06:56 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: Pokey78; xm177e2; mercy; Wait4Truth; hole_n_one; GretchenEE; Clinton's a rapist; buffyt; ...

Mark Steyn MEGA PING!!


44 posted on 03/22/2004 10:11:00 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: Qwinn
And yet, the Greens were okay with keeping him in power. Why? ...Because this is validation of what many, including myself, have been saying all along. Greens are absolutely NOTHING except a front for Communist ideology.

I nominate you for post of the month! Great catch!!!

45 posted on 03/22/2004 10:12:01 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: JohnHuang2
Thanks for the ping!
46 posted on 03/22/2004 10:13:31 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
Welcome :-)
47 posted on 03/22/2004 10:16:07 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: zarf
.... appeasement is even less effective when the faraway country of which you know little is your own.

That is how Chamberlain described Czechoslovakia, after forcing her to give the Sudentenland to Hitler: 'a far-away country' inhabited by ‘people of whom we know little’ (radio broadcast 27 Sep 1938).
48 posted on 03/22/2004 10:18:41 PM PST by Mike Fieschko
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To: JohnHuang2
and once is more than enough
49 posted on 03/22/2004 10:19:41 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.ArmorforCongress.com......................Send a Freeper to Congress!)
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To: JohnHuang2
Did you see this thread?? Harpseal died =o(
50 posted on 03/22/2004 10:20:44 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.ArmorforCongress.com......................Send a Freeper to Congress!)
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To: GeronL
Amen, and G'evening to ya, amigo
51 posted on 03/22/2004 10:21:10 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
did you check in on the harpseal thread?
52 posted on 03/22/2004 10:22:28 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.ArmorforCongress.com......................Send a Freeper to Congress!)
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To: Faraday
Our choice to intervene in Iraq toppled Libya, a terrorist nation that had literally tons of chemical weapons that were found after the fact.

Sometimes intervention is much cheaper in blood than waiting for the little Hitlers to get their troops inside our borders. As the current "illegal immigration" is currently estimated to be about a division a day we can choose to fight them on their soil or consent to live in a prison camp with the barbed wire on the outside of the walls, waiting for the day they come to eat our lunch having already finished our neighbors.

I prefer Americas tendency to fight its wars in their backyards instead of our own. We tried appeasement and gifts for years, until they flew the planes we built into the buildings we built to kill us for our tolerance and kindness.

Tolerate evil and evil will take the freedom to grow and dominate you.
53 posted on 03/22/2004 10:24:16 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: GeronL
I did. Very, very sad to hear this. He was a friend.
54 posted on 03/22/2004 10:25:22 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
He was a good poster too. Very polite.
55 posted on 03/22/2004 10:32:30 PM PST by GeronL (http://www.ArmorforCongress.com......................Send a Freeper to Congress!)
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To: GeronL
Yes, he sure was. He will be sorely missed.
56 posted on 03/22/2004 10:39:04 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: Pokey78
Bravo!

Best of the best is Steyn

57 posted on 03/22/2004 10:42:02 PM PST by Countyline
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To: All
A neighbour of mine refuses to let her boy play with "militaristic" toys. So when a friend gave the l'il tyke a plastic sword and shield, mom mulled it over and then took away the former and allowed him to keep the latter. And for a while, on my drive down to town, I'd pass Junior in the yard playing with his shield, mastering the art of cowering more effectively against unseen blows. Simply the best part of the piece.
58 posted on 03/23/2004 12:28:46 AM PST by victoryatallcosts
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To: Pokey78
Europe is no longer the center of civilization as it was befor the 20th Century. Today America claims the role and it drives the Eurotrash nuts. Its safe to say if Europe disappeared from history, no one would miss it. When Mark Steyn points out the obvious in his diagnosis of Europe's terminal condition, what's striking is how little the other side of the Atlantic has evolved morally since the Second World and even more so since the disappearance of Communism. Indeed, with friends like the Europeans, we Americans and our Israeli friends certainly don't need enemies.
59 posted on 03/23/2004 12:37:27 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Qwinn
This point needs to be expanded upon a LOT more in the media, but of course that will never happen outside of conservative media.
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Thanks for the reminder.

I think that many or most Freepers are talk show listeners. I would encourage all to become talk show callers. Points like this one need frequent mention, and it surely won't happen in the DNC media.

There are many hours of the day in every market that airs Hannity, Savage or Limbaugh, when local talk shows are on air.

Not one of the NGOs that so grieved over what UN sanctions were doing to the Iraqi people has come out in favor of the removal of Hussein. None have mentioned that "5000 children per month" are no longer dying, or that the Marsh Arabs are getting their lands back.
60 posted on 03/23/2004 5:08:38 AM PST by maica (World Peace starts with W)
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