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..WOOLSEY on FoX = "CLARKE doesn't listen to others"..
FoX News Channel 'On the Record' with Gretta VanSustren ^ | 3/24/2004 | JAMES WOOLSEY

Posted on 03/24/2004 8:08:37 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE

NEVER FORGET

...Former CIA Director JAMES WOOLSEY was just on the FoX News Channel's 'On the Record' Show with GRETTA VanSUSTREN.

2 outstanding quotes re 911 Commission Hearings:

"Understanding the Past is a piece of understanding the Future"

"CLARKE does not listen to others once he locks onto a single point of view. Case in point would be the case for state-sponsored terrorism that CIA Director TENANT laid out before the 911 Commission today that CLARKE disagreed with"

...WOOLSEY = A man on a mission for CLARITY. ...CLARKE = A man on a mission for CONFUSION.

NEVER FORGET


TOPICS: Extended News
KEYWORDS: 911commission; clarity; clarke; confusion; foxnews; jameswoolsey; richardclarke; tenet; woolsey
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...Can you believe it..?

...All this is happening to us in Time of War ...as Washington, D.C. Freeper 'kristinn' brings copies of the Fox News Channel's just declassified 2002 CLARKE Interview, that puts the lie to his own new Anti-BUSH Book, straight into the hands of the Media covering today's 911 Commission CLARKE lying Testimony.

FREEPERS Rule 4-FREEDOM. Ya just can't beat'em.

NEVER FORGET

1 posted on 03/24/2004 8:08:38 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
more on this idiot
2 posted on 03/24/2004 8:11:29 PM PST by GailA (Kerry I'm for the death penalty for terrorist, but I'll declare a moratorium on the death penalty)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Woolsey Interview on Clarke + Iraq / AlQaeda Ties
3 posted on 03/24/2004 8:12:58 PM PST by Steven W.
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To: kristinn; BKO; VOA; Fred Mertz; Boston; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; Clinton Is Scum
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'911 Remembered: RICK RESCORLA was a Soldier'

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/978534/posts



No. 1 RICK RESCORLA Fan =

Former CIA Director JAMES WOOLSEY

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4 posted on 03/24/2004 8:13:13 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Rush chewed Clarke up pretty thoroughly today. I'm not worried.
5 posted on 03/24/2004 8:13:31 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Steven W.
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'Remember the Lost and Suffering on September 11, 2001'

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33


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6 posted on 03/24/2004 8:17:17 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
We also need to look into Roger Cressey his aide! Anyone got any info??
7 posted on 03/24/2004 8:17:46 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy
Cressey has been around awhile , like Clarke..

FRom netsecurity.org .. excerpted

Diversinet Appoints Cyber Security Experts Richard Clarke and Roger Cressey to its Advisory Board

Roger Cressey served as chief of staff to the President's Critical Infrastructure Protection Board from November 2001 to September 2002. Between November 1999 and November 2001, he served as director for transnational threats on the National Security Council staff, where he was responsible for coordination and implementation of U.S. counter-terrorism policy. During this period, he managed the U.S. government's response to the Millennium terror alert, the USS Cole attack, and the September 2001 terrorist attacks.

Prior to his White House service, Cressey served in the Department of Defense, including as Deputy Director for War Plans. From 1991-1995, he served in the Department of State working on Middle East Security issues. He has also served overseas with the U.S. Embassy in Israel and with United Nations peacekeeping missions in Somalia and the former Yugoslavia. While in the former Yugoslavia, he was part of a United Nations team that planned the successful capture of the first individual indicted for war crimes in Croatia

8 posted on 03/24/2004 8:32:24 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Support Our Troops! ... Thrash the demRats in November!!! ... Beat BoXer!!!)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Does not listen to others...
9 posted on 03/24/2004 8:33:43 PM PST by binger
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To: NormsRevenge
and with United Nations peacekeeping missions in Somalia

You'd think HE would know better then.

BTW, Clarke and Cressy are now in business together.

10 posted on 03/24/2004 8:36:28 PM PST by Howlin (It's another good day to be a Republican!)
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To: Ann Archy
Newly Appointed NBC Terrorism Analyst Roger Cressey Opens Investment Opportunities in Homeland Defense and Security Conference, Followed by TASER International, Inc.

http://biz.yahoo.com/iw/040308/064122.html

11 posted on 03/24/2004 8:36:58 PM PST by yoe (The worse it is the better it is!!)
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To: yoe
He needs a LOT more examining that that....hi job performance for Bush needs to be looked into at the least.
12 posted on 03/24/2004 8:39:19 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: binger

13 posted on 03/24/2004 8:40:31 PM PST by IPWGOP ('tooning the truth)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I just hope Dubya has finally learned his lesson about keeping holdovers from previous administrations around. You can't beat bringing in your own people who are loyal to you.
14 posted on 03/24/2004 8:42:27 PM PST by squidly (I have always felt that a politician is to be judged by the animosity he excites among his opponents)
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To: whoever
I understand you all like Bush and all. Your option off course. Help me understand though how everyone just simply discounts information from people who disagree with the administration. I can understand this when done to people like al franken or whoever else. But really isn't it at least the tinest bit troubling when two major figures like Paul o'neil and clarke start saying things that corroborate eachother? Especially since clarke served three republican presidents and was last registered as a republican. Is nothing he says valid?
15 posted on 03/24/2004 8:42:35 PM PST by salinger79 (Come on be truthful to yourselves.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
This is shameless! The RAT b*st*rds have already named a candy bar after him.


16 posted on 03/24/2004 8:43:18 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: salinger79
Clarke is selling a book! Does that not give you the reasons for his story? And I am talking about his story this week. His story seems to change as often as Kerry's does.
17 posted on 03/24/2004 8:45:23 PM PST by GottaLuvAkitas1
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To: IPWGOP
That's great!!
18 posted on 03/24/2004 8:46:51 PM PST by binger
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To: salinger79
It's hard to take a guy seriously who says he could tell Condi Rice had not heard of al Qaeda by her "facial expression."

It's equally hard to take a guy seriously who cavorts around the world with a pop singer whose solution to the world's troubles is spending gobs more American tax dollars than we already are.

19 posted on 03/24/2004 8:50:24 PM PST by kristinn
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To: binger
Someone on another thread pointed out that Clarke has that pasty, puffy look that is typical of many Dems.

This guy reminds me of Gray Davis.

20 posted on 03/24/2004 8:50:42 PM PST by Ken H
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To: kristinn
salinger79
Since Mar 25, 2004

/hint
21 posted on 03/24/2004 8:52:01 PM PST by OneTime
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I have to say, I feel for those who don't have FNC on their cable systems in this country. I've been watching the other news outlets this evening for a change, and one without FNC would get the impression Clarke fell on the sword in the White House and is being heralded as the wounded hero, rather than the incompetant former government employee he is.
22 posted on 03/24/2004 8:52:06 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Thanks, Ronnie. Just doing my job here in D.C. We'll be out again tomorrow at the Rat fundraiser with John Kerry and Bill Clinton.
23 posted on 03/24/2004 8:52:12 PM PST by kristinn
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To: salinger79
Trolling down the river
On a Sunday afternoon.....
tra la la

Leni

24 posted on 03/24/2004 8:52:52 PM PST by MinuteGal (Paradise is not lost ! You'll find it May 22 aboard "FReeps Ahoy 3". Register now for our cruise.)
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To: salinger79
Molly? Molly Ivins, is that you?

Welcome to Free Republic :^)
25 posted on 03/24/2004 8:53:43 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: OneTime
Doesn't matter to me. He asked a question so I answered it. If he's a troll, he'll be zotted in good time.
26 posted on 03/24/2004 8:53:46 PM PST by kristinn
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To: kristinn
Freep the Hardball cameras if you can. Hardball is going to be at that dinner tomorrow.
27 posted on 03/24/2004 8:54:15 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: Ken H
I agree...
28 posted on 03/24/2004 8:55:04 PM PST by binger
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To: salinger79
clarke served three republican presidents and was last registered as a republican. Is nothing he says valid?

Well like Kerry it all depends on which version you believe. Like Kerry, Clarke has two stories for every subject.

29 posted on 03/24/2004 8:55:30 PM PST by Texasforever (I am all flamed out.)
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To: salinger79
Yes, nothing he says is valid, when provided with historical references he's attached to, dating back to the start of the Bush administration. His book is a pack of lies, and he knows it.
30 posted on 03/24/2004 8:55:53 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is Communism one drink at a time. - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Thanks for the tip. We'll keep an eye out for Chris Matthews.
31 posted on 03/24/2004 8:57:50 PM PST by kristinn
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To: Ann Archy
I saw this guy on CNBC tonight. He is one bitter person. How do such unbalanced people get jobs in the government?
32 posted on 03/24/2004 8:59:23 PM PST by Bombard
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To: salinger79
"But really isn't it at least the tinest bit troubling when two major figures like Paul o'neil and clarke start saying things that corroborate eachother?"

They've both given conflicting statements publicly, under oath, and in writing, prior to coming out against Bush. One has to question why these individuals have flip-flopped. Hell, Condi Rice said she had lunch with Clarke several weeks after he'd resigned his post. Was the sneaky bastard trying to get some new dirt out of her? Pretend he's a friend and then stab her in the back? Why have lunch with someone you hate? Frankly, I'd be more willing to believe them if they hadn't been so supportive of the Bush White House before they penned their books. Consistency means alot to me. It goes along with credibility and O'Neill and Clarke have neither.

33 posted on 03/24/2004 8:59:24 PM PST by mass55th
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To: binger
Thanks. Forgot to add that they all have that same predatory look about them as well.
34 posted on 03/24/2004 9:04:43 PM PST by Ken H
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To: salinger79
I understand you all like Bush and all. Your option off course. Help me understand though how everyone just simply discounts information from people who disagree with the administration.

Some of Clarke's "facts" are not real. He doesn't tell you what a person has said that's damning, he tells you what he thinks they were thinking that was damning.

For instance, let's say Condi turned and said "nice day". Most folks would take her words at face value and assume she meant "nice day". Clark would ignore the words, look at her expression or her eyebrows, or whatever and "read" bizarre false meaning into her comment. Clark might say, "she said "nice day" but I could tell she wanted to tell me she didn't understand her job". Or that she wanted to fly or whatever. In other words, Clark doesn't tell us about Condi, he tells us about his own twisted projections.

35 posted on 03/24/2004 9:06:38 PM PST by GOPJ (NFL Owners: Grown men don't watch hollywood peep shows with wives and children.)
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To: NormsRevenge
This guy Cressy is tied to so many terror failures he should be investigated. It seem they are trying to ease their failures by trying shift the blame to others. Both Cressy and Clarke are the common factor in the ten to twelve years of failure to deal with the terror threat. They and not the past administrations are the ones at fault for not doing a more effective job in procting the USA.
36 posted on 03/24/2004 9:07:16 PM PST by Bombard
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To: salinger79
I understand you all like Bush and all. Your option off course. Help me understand though how everyone just simply discounts information from people who disagree with the administration.

Some of Clarke's "facts" are not real. He doesn't tell you what a person has said that's damning, he tells you what he thinks they were thinking that was damning.

For instance, let's say Condi turned and said "nice day". Most would take her words at face value and assume she meant "nice day".

Clark would ignore the words, look at her expression or her eyebrows, or whatever and "read" bizarre false meaning into her comment. Clark might say, "she said "nice day" but I could tell she wanted to tell me she didn't understand her job". Or that she wanted to fly or whatever. In other words, Clark doesn't tell us about Condi, he tells us about his own projections.

IMHO It's easy to discount a true narcissist -- because whatever they say -- it's always about them.

37 posted on 03/24/2004 9:11:19 PM PST by GOPJ (NFL Owners: Grown men don't watch hollywood peep shows with wives and children.)
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o.k. I see I am not going to get anywhere by debating this whole deal with clarke. But I did recieve about two decent replys that made me pause for half a sec or so but I came to my senses. I guess my real question is "is there any legitmate complaint by anyone on the left against Bush or is he really just that perfect?" I can admitt to at least one or two legitmate complaints aginst some of my lefty, commie, hypiee dippie, tree hugging types that I love and admire by some of the necon types on the right. Surly there must be something about Bush? Any fair and balanced types out there on the right?
38 posted on 03/24/2004 9:16:26 PM PST by salinger79 (Come on be truthful to yourselves.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Don't know if I've told you before, but thanks for your service to this country. God bless you.
39 posted on 03/24/2004 9:21:07 PM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; kristinn
GREAT GOING KRISTINN.

THANKS TONS ON BEHALF OF ALL US FR TYPES WHO LOVE OUR REPUBLIC!
40 posted on 03/24/2004 9:23:20 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: salinger79
Demos never step out of character, I've learned not to either. Bush is not perfect, but he is head and shoulders above anyone on the other side. Woolsey nailed Clarke tonight for who he is. He is the epitomy of the 'Peter Principle'. Ask Christopher Shays sub-committee who tried to get logic out of him in 1999-2000.
41 posted on 03/24/2004 9:29:05 PM PST by pacpam (action=consequence applies in all cases)
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To: salinger79
You asked,, but I doubt you will be here long enough to reply at this point.

President Bush is not perfect and neither are any of us who draw breath.

When you consider the pains the nation has been subjected to as political discourse is stirred constantly over issues like preemptive attacks, "missing" WMDs vs. non-existent WMDs, a lot of folks do tip over the apple cart in open rebellion or at least harsh words.. Add in Prescription drugs, Campaign Finance Reform, Immigration, FRee Trade,, etc .. No, there are no shortage of reasons to be an unhappy camper on any and all of those issues.

But Then let us take a look at the Big Enchilada... National Security.. If Mr. Clarke were half as persuasive in his arguments as he is in his bold faced assertions (for questionable reasons in an election year), then we might not be facing as many global challenges as we are today as a nation.

Go ahead and pick the bones of any carcass of failed and marginal ops plans that Clinton executed, and then put them up against Bush's "failures" globally,, Clarke's claims speak more to a lack of action and a disinterest in pursuing threats as he so wisely was able to ascertain them. Now he is offended that anyone would question him and his sincerity, but he is not above grandstanding as we are vigorously fighting terrorism on a global scale.

He was on with Larry King tonight, btw. No previous official in his post has ever written a book and performed such political treachery in the history of the nation, while the administration(s) was still in office.

Does he have an agenda? You bet. It is far from Republican however.

I hope you caught Mr. Lehman's comments today, they speak to Clarke's inadequacy as a faithful servant.

42 posted on 03/24/2004 9:35:19 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Support Our Troops! ... Thrash the demRats in November!!! ... Beat BoXer!!!)
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To: binger
Doesn't he look like that heaven's gate guy?

Separated at Birth

43 posted on 03/24/2004 9:41:21 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Let your light so shine before men....)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Condi Rice better get out there and fight this with all her might. She would prove herself, IMHO.
44 posted on 03/24/2004 9:57:20 PM PST by tkathy (Our economy, our investments, and our jobs DEPEND on powerful national security.)
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To: salinger79
I understand you all like Bush and all. Your option off course. Help me understand though how everyone just simply discounts information from people who disagree with the administration.

No one here is 'simply discounting info from people who disagree with the administration,' as you would know if you had been a freeper for more than one day.

People discount the guy for a number of reasons, the most important being Clarke's inability to keep his own story straight. Other relevent items being that Clarke constantly wants to try to discount Iraq's connection to al Qaeda, his claim that there is NO evidence out there linking the two when there is plenty of evidence out there, from memos to witnesses and even Iraqi diplomats working with groups and individuals in Bin Laden's terrorist international. Yet another item is his association with people who clearly are NOT conservative, such as Beers, a person who signed a rather stupid DemocratsAbroad.org Kerry endorsement letter, along with yet another egotist Joe Wilson who also tried to pass himself off as a 'conservative' but who turned out to be another Kerry campaign staffer. You're known by the people you associate with... when you associate with far-left groups which focus mindlessly about how important it is that we as a nation hand our sovereignity over to the UN, you cannot be trusted. Clarke, like Beers and Wilson and others before him, got caught up in their own lies and their own egos.

I can understand this when done to people like al franken or whoever else.

In what way is Clarke different from Al Franken?

But really isn't it at least the tinest bit troubling when two major figures like Paul o'neil and clarke start saying things that corroborate eachother?

Not when they cannot even corroborate themselves. And not when Clarke, a staffer, tries to play himself as the central figure in EVERYTHING. I know that kind of person only too well...

Especially since clarke served three republican presidents and was last registered as a republican.

Clarke served as a bureaucrat- they stay where the easiest paycheck is, most of the time, which is why he remained in government through FOUR presidents, including Clinton- why'd you leave CLINTON out of your list? It was in Clinton's terms that Mr. Clarke made his greatest advancements, and likely where he developed his rather large ego. Clinton did pretty much nothing on terrorism other than kissing Arafat's behind, letting Pakistani scientists have free run in our nuclear labs, and divert attention from islamic terrorism to so-called rightwing domestic groups instead. Where was Mr. Antiterrorist then?

Clarke's being a registered republican means nothing- plenty of weasels have worn the title- remember Governor Ryan of Illinois? How about Hanssen the spy?

According to Clarke he also voted for McCain in the 2000 primary. (Which puts him among a lot of watermelon greens and Democrats, I might add.) Clarke's donations to political campaigns went to Democrats. I didn't see any donations to Bush there. So what exactly makes Clarke a 'republican?' What views has he put forth since his 'turn' that demonstrate his 'Republicanness' rather than say, an affinity for dried up old watermelon leftists?

Is nothing he says valid?

Which do you mean, the things he said first, or the things that he said which counterdict what he's said before?

45 posted on 03/24/2004 9:58:45 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: GOPJ
In other words, Clark doesn't tell us about Condi, he tells us about his own twisted projections.

Feelings, nothing more than feelings. Feelings, nothing more than feelings, Trying to forget my feelings ...

46 posted on 03/24/2004 10:05:06 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: salinger79
o.k. I see I am not going to get anywhere by debating this whole deal with clarke.

Because the whole deal with Clarke is his lack of consistency. Us FReepers are sticklers for consistency. We also tend to dismiss bureaucrats who comment on fields outside their expertise. So when Paul O'Neil, a treasury secretary, comments about Iraq; it tends to be ignored.

The only legitimate complaint that I have heard from the left about Bush is his overspending, which I happen to agree with. However, the left's only using this as a platform to attack Bush since their alternatives to the same policies are normally to spend more. To quote Thomas Sowell: "There are basically only two ways of reducing a deficit -- cut spending or collect more taxes. When you see liberals in politics and in the media going ballistic about the deficit, you know that they are not thinking about cutting spending."
47 posted on 03/24/2004 10:19:06 PM PST by Thoro (Gridlocked government is better than active government.)
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To: salinger79
I guess you missed the founder's statement from the front page of Free Republic, so let me bring it to you here:

Despite the wailing of the liberal trolls and other doom & gloom naysayers, we feel no compelling need to allow them a platform to promote their repugnant and obnoxious propaganda from our forum. Free Republic is not a liberal debating society.

I'm calling YOU a liberal troll. If I wanted to hear liberal propaganda about Clarke, I'd go to an alphabet network website. Clarke is a liar, selling a book, out to destroy the President. The left knows this better than we conservatives do--but persist in publicizing those lies. I have no patience whatsoever, no desire to hear any more of that bleep. If you want a different point of view, go elsewhere. I'm sure you know where to find it.

48 posted on 03/24/2004 10:28:02 PM PST by Judith Anne (Is life a paradox? Well, yes and no...)
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To: Bombard
How do such unbalanced people get jobs in the government?

This is what I find so disturbing - Clarke is clearly unstable and suffers from wild delusions of grandeur. Not the kind of person I want to have the highest security clearance.

Clarke instantly discredited himself with his petty and personal attacks on Bush and Rice. He even went so far as to tell The Guardian that Bush "doesn't like to read" and more than hinted that Bush and Condi are dumb.

Billy Kristol summed it up beautifully on Hume's show - this Clarke affair is utterly disgraceful and ensures that the next new administration won't make the mistake of holding over NSC officials - which will result in a total lack of continuity in the national security team.

49 posted on 03/24/2004 10:28:09 PM PST by Spotsy (Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Tenet. Not Tenant. A tenant is a person who rents or leases living space.
50 posted on 03/24/2004 10:49:37 PM PST by Terpfen (Re-elect Bush; kill terrorists now, fix Medicare later.)
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