NAMBLA BACK ON WEB

North American man boy "love" association website ^

[MESHUGAMIKEY]

the North American Man/Boy Love Association has a NEW website,

they are BACK ONLINE after an absence of the last few years sicn the FEDS took down thier last one.

what can be done to remove this scum from cyberspace?

what can be done to have these people prosecuted for the promotion of the very illegal pedophilia they Promote?

"Freedom is indivisible. The liberation of children, women, boy-lovers,  and homosexuals in general, can occur only as  complementary facets of the same dream.   — David Thorstad "

INDEED

this disease demands a cure

http://www.NAMBLA.org/

[areafiftyone]

If the feds won't take them down they need to be hacked. Too bad I don't know how to do that sort of stuff.

[international american]

Leave the site up, so the feds can track these sick SOBS!!

[Texaggie79]

what can be done to remove this scum from cyberspace?

PROOF of an actual crime. As much as I hate their message, they have the freedom to SAY it. But once they do it, nab their asses.

If we make it legal to arrest people for their speech and thoughts, then what happens if Liberals take over completely? People who are Christian could be considered people who commit hate speech.

No, I am not going to give government the power to regulate thought and speech.

[areafiftyone]

As much as I hate their message, they have the freedom to SAY it. But once they do it, nab their asses.

You have a point.

[Types_with_Fist]

Saturation bombing?...

[Bogey78O]

It's registered to San francisco.

Domain Name:NAMBLA.ORG
Created On:11-Oct-1996 04:00:00 UTC
Last Updated On:31-Jan-2004 19:16:26 UTC
Expiration Date:10-Oct-2005 04:00:00 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:R11-LROR
Status:OK
Registrant ID:tuOyMD9O3nISjuCI
Registrant Name:Floyd Conaway
Registrant Organization:NAMBLA
Registrant Street1:537 Jones St No 8418
Registrant City:San Francisco
Registrant State/Province:CA
Registrant Postal Code:94102
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.2128078578
Registrant Email:aschweitzer2@yahoo.com
Admin ID:tuOyMD9O3nISjuCI
Admin Name:Floyd Conaway
Admin Organization:NAMBLA
Admin Street1:537 Jones St No 8418
Admin City:San Francisco
Admin State/Province:CA
Admin Postal Code:94102
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.2128078578
Admin Email:aschweitzer2@yahoo.com
Tech ID:tuOyMD9O3nISjuCI
Tech Name:Floyd Conaway
Tech Organization:NAMBLA
Tech Street1:537 Jones St No 8418
Tech City:San Francisco
Tech State/Province:CA
Tech Postal Code:94102
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.2128078578
Tech Email:aschweitzer2@yahoo.com
Name Server:NS.REDIRECTION.NET
Name Server:NS01.BWAY.NET
Name Server:NS02.BWAY.NET
Name Server:NS2.REDIRECTION.NET

[js1138]

I'm not sure free speech gives you the right to conspire to commit a crime, unless you are a democrat running for the presidency.

[Lockbar]

Wondering how many NAMBLA members are going to delegates to the DNC National convention?

[antiRepublicrat]

what can be done to remove this scum from cyberspace?

I admit the temptation for vigilantism is high, but try economics. They're hosted by Terabyte:

Tera-Byte Dot Com Inc.
9th Floor, CN Tower
10004-104 Avenue
Edmonton, Alberta
T5J 0K1
Canada
abuse@tera-byte.com
Phone: +1 (780) 413-1868
Fax: +1 (780) 413-1869
Toll Free: 1-877-TERABYTE (1-877-837-2298)

Maybe some pressure would work. The provider is in Canada so who knows if that'll do any good on the legal front. Anyone know the laws there?

[antiRepublicrat]

That's the whois, but not helpful since they have themselves down as the tech contact. I posted provider info.

[ChicagoHebrew]

Keep their site up, but get a warrant to track who visits them.

[BikePacker]

Well at least they admit to the unbreakable link between homosexuality and child molestation:

The issue of love between men and boys has intersected the gay movement since the late nineteenth century, with the rise of the first gay rights movement in Germany. In the United States, as the gay movement has retreated from its vision of sexual liberation, in favor of integration and assimilation into existing social and political structures, it has increasingly sought to marginalize even demonize cross-generational love. Pederasty - that is, love between a man and a youth of 12 to 18 years of age - say middle-class homosexuals, lesbians, and feminists, has nothing to do with gay liberation. Some go so far as to claim, absurdly, that it is a heterosexual phenomenon, or even "sexual abuse." What a travesty!

Pederasty is the main form that male homosexuality has acquired throughout Western civilization - and not only in the West! Pederasty is inseparable from the high points of Western culture - ancient Greece and the Renaissance.

In Germany, in the late nineteenth century, pederasty was an integral part of the new gay movement. The first gay journal in the world - Der Eigene, published beginning in 1896 (one year before the formation of the first homosexual rights group, the Scientific Humanitarian Committee of Magnus Hirschfeld) - was a pederast and anarchist journal "for male culture" with an individualist anarchist outlook based on the ideas of Max Stirner (author of Der Einzige und sein Eigentum). Its publisher, Adolf Brand, was a leading figure of the gay movement throughout the first decades, until the Nazis came to power. The journal continued to appear until 1933. Brand died in an Allied bombing of Berlin in 1945.

Another leading pederast and writer, Benedict Friedlaender, was also a leader of Hirschfeld's committee, until 1908 when he committed suicide. Not unlike today, the two groups - the pederasts in the Gemeinschaft der Eigenen (the Community of Self- Owners) and the Hirschfeld group - constituted two wings of the gay movement. Although they collaborated in some things (for example, both opposed the sodomy statute, Paragraph 175), sharp ideological and scientific differences separated them. In uncanny ways, many of these differences persist in the quite different circumstances of today.

More...

[sweetliberty]

"Leave the site up, so the feds can track these sick SOBS!!"

Hopefully before they become a protected minority.

[Windsong]

"The provider is in Canada.."

Then forget it.

[sharktrager]

Maybe the site is up specifically for that purpose

[Young Werther]

North

American

Man

/Boys

Rape

Association

NAMBRA

What a difference the truth makes!

[NotMyRealScreenName]

Frankly IMHO I would NOT access this site if you are at work. Not something I would want in my "sites visited" file.

If I get critized for visiting FR they can consider my resignation as an alternate.

[King Black Robe]

If we make it legal to arrest people for their speech and thoughts, then what happens if Liberals take over completely? People who are Christian could be considered people who commit hate speech.

That sounds fine until you start examining it against reality. Christians are silenced all the time. And it is done in the name of freedom. There is no way that allowing child molesters their free voice in any way protects our speech. Heck, even our political speech is regulated. Nope. I'm for calling a spade a spade. NAMBLA does not deserve to exist.

[NYFriend]

"what can be done to remove this scum from cyberspace?"

Get the gay rights groups to say NAMBLA threatens their social acceptance.

[areafiftyone]

Welcome to Free Republic.

[international american]

Amen to that!!

[r9etb]

the pederasts in the Gemeinschaft der Eigenen (the Community of Self- Owners)

Hm. Interesting that pederasty should be advertised as part of "self-ownership."

[AppyPappy]

As much as I hate their message, they have the freedom to SAY it.

You do not have the freedom to solicit a crime.

[F.J. Mitchell]

"NAMBLA back on the web."

And why not? Once voluntary sodomy is the law of the land, can the legalization of involuntary inductees into sodomy be far behind? Honest folks, when I said behind, a pun was the farthest thing from my mind. Okay smarty! Maybe not the farthest.

[r9etb]

can the legalization of involuntary inductees into sodomy be far behind?

It wouldn't be "involuntary," though, because the NAMBLA's primary strategy is to lower the age of consent.

[AppyPappy]

But once they do it, nab their asses

Only if YOUR child is the victim.

[GrandMoM]

BUMP

[johnb838]

I'm afraid it's like terrorism. They're going to supress free speech if they can whether we tolerate criminal speech or not, so we might as well take them down. To me, the utterly liberal interpretation of the first amendment (except regarding freedom of religion) is what has gotten us in this mess. They've used our love of freedom against us. No other generation allowed such depravity. It's time to return sanity to the debate.

[New Horizon]

Pederasty is the main form that male homosexuality has acquired throughout Western civilization - and not only in the West! Pederasty is inseparable from the high points of Western culture - ancient Greece and the Renaissance.

Well, now that I'm so well educated I feel pretty stupid for thinking that this was a highly disgusting, immoral, and criminal practice.

[GladesGuru]

"Pederasty is inseparable from the high points of Western culture - ancient Greece and the Renaissance."

The chap who penned that line must know something about Lorenzo De Medici, Leonardo Da Vinci, Michelangelo, etc. that seems to have escaped me.

But then again, what do I know? I am one of those "Queer Nation" members snidely refer to as "breeders".

[international american]

I think if we drive these evil scumbags undergroud, they will committ more atrocities than if we left them above ground.I want the feds to be able to trace them.

[GladesGuru]

Opps! My bad.

Should have read " - one of those whom "Queer Nation" members -"

[NotMyRealScreenName]

Thanks

[F.J. Mitchell]

However they twist the law of the land,
true parents will still protect their child,
and defy any law that would deter their hand,
from meting out justice to a damn pedifile!

[BykrBayb]

Not all speech is allowed under our Constitution. Conspiracy to commit a crime is illegal.

[Feiny]

I just posted this about a big Child porn bust.
It airs on ABC tonight.

http://freerepublic.info/focus/f-news/1105749/posts

[international american]

Thanks... I wish we could wipe em out, but that takes surveillance!!

[sharktrager]

From TeraBYTE:

We don't host the site. It's hosted in New York: [12:54:29] tbdb: IP 216.220.96.4
[12:54:30] [216.220.96.4] Bway.net, Inc.;
459 Broadway; 2nd floor;
New York; NY; 10013; US

Regards,

Martin Smith Network Operations Centre
Tera-Byte Dot Com Inc.

[Essie]

If we allow these people to stay above ground, we permit them to slowly gain credibility. Some people part their hair to the left and some to the right. Aw shucks guys!!!! We at NAMBLA are misunderstood. We just express our feelings a little differently than the rest of you. How can you be such bigots not to understand our needs!!
The people at NAMBLA think that they are misunderstood and that they have the right to use adolescent boys. I've heard it's almost impossible to change this way of thinking. All we can do is try to cordon this off from of the rest of society. I don't want to live a society where this accepted.

[r9etb]

The people at NAMBLA think that they are misunderstood and that they have the right to use adolescent boys. I've heard it's almost impossible to change this way of thinking. All we can do is try to cordon this off from of the rest of society. I don't want to live a society where this accepted.

Nobody normal does.

But I think we need to be clear: this is a homosexual thing, and not pedophilia. And in that vein it's similar to men who have a heterosexual attraction to girls in the same age range.

[international american]

Essie, if we can't trace them we can't find them. "Americas Most Wanted" caught their meeting place a few years ago from the internet, and they arrested 50 some queers.

[genefromjersey]

Well,for openers,don't click on to their website.

No,I'm not trying to be a smart-ass. Do you want to have it "forever" on your hard drive (or in the records of Homeland Security ?) that you are a "patron" of this site??

[HamiltonJay]

DOS attack time

[antiRepublicrat]

I pinged and got 216.234.161.13, and Arin.net says that's owned by TeraBYTE. They may be subletting an IP range to another provider, but it likely goes through their network. They can tell the other provider they'll cut the upstream if they keep allowing NAMBLA to run there. Or they can tell them they want their IP range back, leaving the hoster to find another.

Bway owns 216.220.96.4, but its not NAMBLA's site.

[antiRepublicrat]

I do have a poor-man's DDOS HTML file around somewhere. It opens a few frames of the targeted site in your browser and keeps refreshing. It's not elegant, basically simulating lots of Web traffic.

If several thousand FReepers did this it could hurt.

[Mudboy Slim]

"It's registered to San Francisco."

Who'd a thunk it?!

SHEEESH...MUD

[scripter]

Ping

[Focault's Pendulum]

As much as I hate their message, they have the freedom to SAY it. But once they do it, nab their asses.

My dear old friend.....wouldn't they consider that an aphrodisiac.

[Focault's Pendulum]

Get a real tag line. Do it!!!

Oh yeah....Welcome.