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Groups Debate U.N. Control of Internet
Yahoo! News ^ | 3/27/04 | Chris Hawley - AP

Posted on 3/27/2004, 8:23:37 PM by NormsRevenge

UNITED NATIONS -

Typically, only heads of state and titans of industry get an audience on the 38th floor of the marble-and-glass tower housing the United Nations (news - web sites).

So when the president of a California nonprofit corporation with an unwieldy name — the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers — met Friday with Secretary-General Kofi Annan (news - web sites), it signaled the group's importance in a computer-driven world.

ICANN (news - web sites) oversees the Domain Name System — such as ".com," ".net" and ".org" — that allows computers to find each other in cyberspace. It is sanctioned by the United States government, which funded the Internet's early development.

Some countries and activists argue that ICANN is too close to the United States and want the United Nations to take a greater role in regulating the Internet.

"The United Nations would be a good platform for that, because it has legitimacy. The countries are all represented," said Izzeldin Mohamed Osman, a computer science professor from the Sudan University of Science and Technology.

This week, about 200 diplomats, activists and representatives of companies like Hewlett-Packard Co. and Sun Microsystems Inc. met at the United Nations to share ideas on whether the Internet should be governed and, if so, how.

"The world has a common interest in ensuring the security and dependability of this new medium," Annan said.

He met privately Friday with Paul Twomey, the chief executive of ICANN, who would not elaborate on their discussions.

The gathering grew from December's U.N. World Summit on the Information Society in Geneva, where the world's leaders failed to reach consensus on governing the Internet and punted the issue to a task force that is supposed to report to Annan in 2005.

It ended Saturday with a closed-door meeting of diplomats.

Computer industry officials at the meeting were skeptical of a U.N. role, but they agreed that some kind of international body could be useful in coordinating language issues, security and getting the Internet into developing countries.

Most believed an international body had no right to regulate the content of Web sites, a concern for countries like China and North Korea (news - web sites).

Deputy U.N. Secretary-General Louise Frechette singled out "spam," network security and privacy as areas where international cooperation was needed.

Because ICANN reports to the U.S. Department of Commerce, some countries are nervous that Washington could force the disruption of Internet traffic to entire countries by deleting them from central computers — like ripping out pages of a telephone directory.

While that is technically possible, it would be a disaster for the Internet and ICANN, industry officials say.

"The first time anyone tried to do that, there would be such a hue and cry," said Michael Aisenberg, director of government relations for VeriSign Inc., an ICANN contractor that keeps the master list of domain name suffixes like ".com."

"You would be such a pariah, you would have your role as a custodian ripped away from you."

Twomey said ICANN, based in Marina del Rey, Calif., was trying to recruit more board members from outside the United States and was considering additional offices abroad, beyond its branch in Belgium. But many at the conference said non-Americans still needed a bigger voice.

"ICANN has to be more international and it has to be more transparent," said Talal Abu-Ghazaleh, vice chairman of the U.N. Information and Communication Technologies Task Force.

ICANN also chooses who controls the country codes — like ".us" or ".uk" — that define each country's piece of real estate in cyberspace.

During the 1990s, Afghan expatriates wrested control of the ".af" address from the Taliban, who ran the country. ICANN returned it to the government in March 2003 after the U.S.-backed Northern Alliance drove the Taliban from power.

Twomey said ICANN consulted the United Nations Development Program before making the Afghan handover, but some people still are uncomfortable with its power.

In 2000, ICANN approved a separate domain name for Palestinian Web sites — ".ps" — giving them independence in cyberspace before they get a country of their own. It has yet to decide the future of Iraq (news - web sites)'s "iq."

"We've got a California corporation, working under the Department of Commerce, deciding who's a country. Where does statehood begin?" said Karl Auerbach, a former ICANN board member.

Twomey denies any U.S. government influence in ICANN's work.

"I have never once seen the United States' foreign policy have any impact on this process," he said.

Other critics say ICANN is too slow in making decisions and adopting new technology, like ways to transmit Chinese and Arabic characters. VeriSign has sued the organization, saying it is standing in the way of lucrative new services.

Developing countries, meanwhile, complain they are being left behind. The United Nations is studying ways to get cheap computers into those countries, and Aisenberg said VeriSign and other companies were considering starting a fund to encourage Internet entrepreneurs there.


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KEYWORDS: control; debate; groups; internet; oneworldgovernment; theendoftheinternet; ucann; un; unitednations
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1 posted on 3/27/2004, 8:23:38 PM by NormsRevenge
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The UN is a venue for discussion. It has no power, no authority, no responsibility and no credibility as anything else, and the sooner we make it clear we will fund it to accomplish that limited task and nothing more, the better.
2 posted on 3/27/2004, 8:26:58 PM by Owen
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To: NormsRevenge
What a great idea. </ sarcasm> The UN has such a great track record for handling other people's money. i.e. the 'oil for food program' in Iraq. The ONLY thing the US needs from the UN is their notice of intent to vacate the building in NY.
3 posted on 3/27/2004, 8:40:35 PM by NRA2BFree (The Socialists are in control of our Congress. It*s time to clean house!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Other critics say ICANN is too slow in making decisions and adopting new technology, like ways to transmit Chinese and Arabic characters. VeriSign has sued the organization, saying it is standing in the way of lucrative new services.

Verisign thinks that ICANN is slow? Unless UN bureaucrats are getting a kickback or bribes they take forever to make a decision. Profit is a dirty word to these socialist. What do they care if you are loosing money?

"The United Nations would be a good platform for that, because it has legitimacy. The countries are all represented," said Izzeldin Mohamed Osman, a computer science professor from the Sudan University of Science and Technology.

All countries are not represented in the UN. And as far as legitimacy the UN can not even govern itself. The organization is famous for corruption and nepotism.

4 posted on 3/27/2004, 8:44:27 PM by Pontiac (Ignorance of the law is no excuse, ignorance of your rights can be fatal.)
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To: NormsRevenge
We better ask Al Gore if it's OK first..afterall it's his invention.
5 posted on 3/27/2004, 8:46:02 PM by The Great RJ
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To: NormsRevenge
The United Nations would be a good platform for that, because it has legitimacy

??????????
6 posted on 3/27/2004, 8:50:07 PM by farmer18th
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To: NormsRevenge
Developing countries, meanwhile, complain they are being left behind

This is empire building. If the UN gets their grubby hands on this, they can sell "services" to developing countries. This could mean infrastructure, hardware, software, and training. The bill for this will be staggering and administered by the UN (corrupt). The UN could be chartered to enforce enfractions, resulting in yet another reason for the smelly camel to put his nose into our tent. Can you say Global Tax? This coincides too closely with the "universal access to broadband" posting earlier. And how about the Microsoft fines levied this week? Could that fine really be about corporate extortion?

7 posted on 3/27/2004, 9:07:21 PM by kdot
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Some countries and activists argue that ICANN is too close to the United States and want the United Nations to take a greater role in regulating the Internet.

Um, how about.....NO, Scott.

"The United Nations would be a good platform for that, because it has legitimacy.

As opposed to the United States?

The countries are all represented," said Izzeldin Mohamed Osman, a computer science professor from the Sudan University of Science and Technology.

Like Cuba, and Syria, and Iran, China, etc.? They'll all have a hand in "regulating" what I can see or put out on the internet? No thanks.

8 posted on 3/27/2004, 9:50:49 PM by lowbridge
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To: NormsRevenge
The UN is looking for one thing and one thing only. A source of income. They want a taxation source in order to asert independence and and control over member nations.
9 posted on 3/27/2004, 9:55:10 PM by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Nobody can control the internet.

ICANN, ICANN, ICANN.
10 posted on 3/27/2004, 9:55:21 PM by samtheman
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To: NormsRevenge
Fukc the UN. If I were W, I'd get a SWAT team on the East Side and e-f'in-vacuate that building. Those bastards fukc-up every issue that's presented to them. And, we, pay 25% of the dues. Then there's the issue of refurbishing the building... guess who is going to pay for that? I'm fed up with these gutless / mindless / Marxist assholes.
11 posted on 3/27/2004, 9:57:02 PM by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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Notice the 9-11 terrorists didn't fly into the UN but the US building.

he UN is nothing but world socialism.

12 posted on 3/28/2004, 12:54:55 AM by hoosierham
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To: NRA2BFree
The ONLY thing the US needs from the UN is their notice of intent to vacate the building in NY.

A notice of eviction would work work just as nice. (Taped to the blade of a bulldozer at the front door.) ;-)

13 posted on 3/28/2004, 12:58:23 AM by uglybiker (Too much horsepower is just enough. -- Carrol Shelby)
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To: NormsRevenge; Squantos; archy; blackie; Travis McGee; Grampa Dave; Cincinatus' Wife; ...
Yet another contribution of the American military (DARPA) being tossed to the international wolves ping.
14 posted on 3/28/2004, 3:17:04 AM by risk
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To: NormsRevenge
"They want the UN to take a greater role in regulating the internet."
This isn't going to be another thing like "Oil for Food" is it? You know -- a shake-down?
15 posted on 3/28/2004, 3:44:45 AM by henderson field
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To: NormsRevenge
Nothing to worry about. The U.N. can't even enforce its own resolutions...
16 posted on 3/28/2004, 6:58:59 AM by Rams82
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17 posted on 3/28/2004, 7:19:18 AM by xrp
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To: risk
Abolish the UN ~ Now!

We are winning ~ the bad guys are losing ~ trolls, terrorists, democrats and the mainstream media are sad ~ very sad!

~~ Bush/Cheney 2004 ~~

18 posted on 3/28/2004, 3:36:35 PM by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Couple of points from reading this...

why do all the people in support of this seem to be Muslims? hmmm?

Why is verisign so worried abut it, they sad that they couldn't go through with the little unregistered domains fiasco a few months back, where if you typed in a domain name, in the .com world, that didn't yet exist it took you to a verisign page which they were being paid advertising revenues for. This broke a lot of anti SPAM systems that depended on the page not found error.

Finally think a few years ahead if the UN controlled the domain registration, then if you happen to be a 'hate group' in their definitions then maybe you wouldn't get a domain name, how better to censor those you don't want to be heard., i.e. conservatives, Christians, you name it...

'FreeRepublic.. we're sorry you can't have a domain anymore by order of the UN, you are a right wing hate group'

And we all know that the ones who love censorship the most are the Liberals.

19 posted on 3/28/2004, 3:46:58 PM by battousai (Islamic terrorists are like cancer... can you negotiate with Cancer?)
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"The United Nations would be a good platform for that, because it has legitimacy. The countries are all represented," said Izzeldin Mohamed Osman, a computer science professor from the Sudan University of Science and Technology
20 posted on 3/28/2004, 4:20:46 PM by jonatron (DEFUND N P R NOW !!!)
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