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The New Breed of Islam Bashers
Islamicity ^ | 3/27/2004 | Nahal Ameri

Posted on 03/29/2004 7:52:49 AM PST by Eurotwit

There is a new breed of Islam bashers that were at one point part of the Muslim community itself. Muslims already have to contend with people like Daniel Pipes making statements such as "Western European societies are unprepared for the massive immigration of brown-skinned peoples cooking strange foods and maintaining different standards of hygiene ... All immigrants bring exotic customs and attitudes, but Muslim customs are more troublesome than most".

Now beyond Daniel Pipes, Muslims are seeing a new stream of attacks against their faith by individuals that were born Muslim and being promoted by media.

These particular bashers have chosen to take on the literary world with recent publications by Canadian Journalist Irshad Manji and Ohio based author Ibn Warraq. Mr. Warraq, a self proclaimed former Muslim has authored four books in recent years that promote anti-Islamic rhetoric by citing incorrect traditions of the Prophet Muhammad and citing Quranic verses out of context. In his book Why I am Not a Muslim, he states "People generally convert to Islam only in terror, quest for power, or to avoid heavy taxation, or to escape humiliation, or because of infatuation with a Muslim woman." A funny statement to make in the United States where many people have converted to Islam without terror. Becoming a Muslim may grant a person a considerable amount of struggle but not power.

First time Muslim author, Manji has been receiving mass media attention for her book, the Trouble with Islam. It has been reviewed by over thirty prominent United States newspapers and magazines and become a best seller in the United States and Canada. It's contents are an open letter to Muslims and Non-Muslims on why Islam needs to be reformed. In one section she writes, "First and foremost, being self-critical means coming clean about the nasty side of the Koran, and how it informs terrorism." She fails however to point out where in the Koran terrorism is mentioned.

Although I completely respect freedom of speech, I must ask what is the point of all of this? Do these Muslim bashers want us all to convert out of Islam? Do they want the whole world to hate Islam? The answer in my view is that they want Muslims and the rest of humanity to renounce the religion and in their delusion hope to extinguish the light of Islam from the world.

Muslims are used to attacks by non-Muslims but with people like Manji, and Warraq it is different because it is completely hypocritical. They would like to be respected for leaving Islam or in Manji's case "reforming Islam", but they refuse to give the same respect to Muslims to practice their faith as they choose, without the constant condemnation and criticism. These authors state that they should be given the right to interpret religion as they wish yet; they criticize Muslims for practicing their religion as they want to. The bottom line is tolerance is a two way street, and there should be tolerance for those who choose to practice religion and those who do not.

The abandonment of tolerance will only lead to hatred and crime. The FBI reports that hate crimes against people who appear to be Muslim increased more than 1,500 percent in 2001. As a staff member of a Muslim non-profit organization I receive daily hate emails that contain profanity towards Muslims and Allah, which is simply the Arabic word for God.

It has become the norm and acceptable by society to stigmatize Muslims as it was at one time, to stigmatize African Americans and Jews.

Most immigrant Muslims came to America to pursue a better life for themselves and their children. Freedom of religion is part of that better life.

One must wonder the motive of these new Islam bashers. Are they just trying to make a quick buck or do they simply want to annihilate Islam. Either way, the bigotry needs to stop because it might just be another book on the shelves to most Americans but to Muslims, these books threaten their identity in a society that prides it self in tolerance and pluralism.

Nahal Ameri is the Community Relations Director of the Muslim Public Affairs Council


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: danielpipes; ibnwarraq; islam

1 posted on 03/29/2004 7:52:49 AM PST by Eurotwit
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To: Eurotwit
The abandonment of tolerance will only lead to hatred and crime.

Islamic Tolerance:

Saudi Arabia - Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death. Bibles are illegal. Churches are illegal.

Yemen - Bans proselytizing by non-Muslims and forbids conversions. The Government does not allow the building of new non-Muslim places of worship

Kuwait - Registration and licensing of religious groups. Members of religions not sanctioned in the Koran may not build places of worship. Prohibits organized religious education for religions other than Islam

Egypt -Islam is the official state religion and primary source of legislation. Accordingly, religious practices that conflict with Islamic law are prohibited. Muslims may face legal problems if they convert to another faith. Requires non-Muslims to obtain what is now a presidential decree to build a place of worship

Algeria - The law prohibits public assembly for purposes of practicing a faith other than Islam. Non-Islamic proselytizing is illegal, and the Government restricts the importation of non-Islamic literature for distribution.

Jordan - Has the death penalty for any Muslim selling land to a Jew.

2 posted on 03/29/2004 8:03:16 AM PST by 2banana
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To: Eurotwit
If I considered it to be a backwards, medieval, blood-soaked death cult for morons, would that be considered bashing?

'Cause I'd really hate that.

3 posted on 03/29/2004 8:06:36 AM PST by Hank Rearden (Never let your life be directed by people who could only get government jobs.)
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To: Eurotwit
Whaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh!
4 posted on 03/29/2004 8:07:41 AM PST by Starve The Beast (I used to be disgusted, but now I try to be amused)
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To: Eurotwit
Do you know why Daniel Pipes is hated so much? Why, because he tells the truth. He's even demeaned by the US government! Islam is not compatible with the west - period.
5 posted on 03/29/2004 8:07:54 AM PST by hardhead ("Curly, if you say its a fine morning, I'll shoot you!" - John Wayne, 'McLintock' - 1963)
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To: hardhead
Islam is not compatible with the west - period.

I agree, but I would also argue that, in a lot of ways, true Christianity is not compatible with "the west" either (given western society's focus on attaining things like material wealth, earthly pleasures, reknown of place and power, etc, etc, etc).

6 posted on 03/29/2004 8:12:33 AM PST by LaBradford22
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To: Eurotwit
To Muslims, these books threaten [Muslims'] identity in a society that prides it self in tolerance and pluralism.

BWAAHAAAWAAAA!!! What a laugh! Here is Muslim "tolerance"-- We tolerate women in burkhas and beating them with sticks as a form of amusement; we tolerate teaching children that Jews are cannibals; public torture and execution for criticizing the mullahs----we tolerate all kinds of neat stuff like that.

(Now someone will report what I have just written and claim that "hate crimes" are now up 1600 per cent, not just 1500% as reported in the article).

7 posted on 03/29/2004 8:16:23 AM PST by San Jacinto
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To: Eurotwit
Wow, he finally took some responsibility and spoke out against terrori...

Oh wait, this is another typical whining diatribe.
8 posted on 03/29/2004 8:22:25 AM PST by Monty22
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To: Eurotwit
Although I completely respect freedom of speech

Really??

Nahal Ameri is the Community Relations Director of the Muslim Public Affairs Council

Oh - that would be this organization, Abdul...err... Nahal?

MPAC's staff, hitherto better known for justifying militant Islamic terrorism and promoting antisemitic conspiracy theories, goes mano-a-mano in Qur'anic exegesis with Luxenberg, fearlessly spouting such silliness as:

He challenges what he claims as the Arabic meaning of "beings with swollen breasts," while had he known Arabic, he would have understood the term as "beings of distinction."

MPAC's department of historical research must have also swung into gear for this particular edition of MPACnews, for it includes the dubious assertion that "there were about 100,000 copies of the Quran circulating in different parts of the world during the time of the second Caliph, Omar ibn al-Khattab (634-644)."

But most notable about the MPAC press release is its assumption that Luxenberg is attempting "to undermine the foundation of faith" among Muslims by challenging the authenticity of the Qur'an. MPAC says it can "only surmise" that a work like this, "attacking the authenticity of the Quran," seeks to destroy the Qur'an.

-- Daniel Pipes, http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/77

9 posted on 03/29/2004 8:37:51 AM PST by DonaldDuke
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To: Eurotwit
Most immigrant Muslims came to America to pursue a better life for themselves and their children. Freedom of religion is part of that better life.

So is a respect for the institutions of the host country and understanding that this country is a secular republic. So is a respect for this country, including turning in those in your ranks who are here to kill other Americans.

10 posted on 03/29/2004 8:41:50 AM PST by dirtboy (Howard, we hardly knew ye. Not that we're complaining, mind you...)
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To: Eurotwit
Ms Manji is kicking *ss in the Canadian media. ;^)

She is one breath of fresh air!
11 posted on 03/29/2004 8:43:01 AM PST by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: Eurotwit
"In his book Why I am Not a Muslim, he states "People generally convert to Islam only in terror, quest for power, or to avoid heavy taxation, or to escape humiliation, or because of infatuation with a Muslim woman." A funny statement to make in the United States where many people have converted to Islam without terror. Becoming a Muslim may grant a person a considerable amount of struggle but not power."

Not a good example; why? Cuz most of the converts here in the US do it exactly cuz they hate this country and the white man, etc, and Islam embraces that hatred and lets them cook it some more. Have you ever seen the hatred in these peoples' eyes? You can SEE it. Not to mention hear it and see it acted out.

Funny how he doesn't mention how conversions take place in not-so-pluralistic areas but only tags the US.


*As an aside, isn't it funny how there are basically NEVER any women in all these "demonstrations" - be they nasty kill-Jews demos or celebratory demos like in Iraq? Shouldn't that say something in itself about human rights? What is it about this religion that women don't even celebrate publicly?
12 posted on 03/29/2004 9:25:21 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common Sense is an Uncommon Virtue)
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To: Eurotwit
The bottom line is tolerance is a two way street...

The abandonment of tolerance will only lead to hatred and crime.

Tell that to the 3,000 victims murdered by Islamic hatred on 9/11.

13 posted on 03/29/2004 9:27:37 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Hell hath no fury like a bureaucrat scorned." -- Milton Friedman)
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To: Eurotwit
The FBI reports that hate crimes against people who appear to be Muslim increased more than 1,500 percent in 2001

I'm sure this had nothing to do with September 11th and the murder of 3000 civilians by a bunch of these misunderstood, peaceful muslims, now would it???
14 posted on 03/29/2004 9:32:29 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (So you're a feminist - isn't that cute!)
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To: Eurotwit
Islamofascists like Nahal Ameri don't think Muslims have a right to criticize what's wrong with Islam or to bring it out of the 7th Century. In most Muslim countries, apotasy from or mere disagreement with orthodox doctrine is punished by death. That is the tolerance promoted by the Religion Of Peace. TM With the partial exception of Turkey, every Muslim country denies freedom of religious worship both to Muslims and to religious minorities. Islam cannot compete in the free marketplace of ideas because of its track record. The only way Islam has been able to make itself a world religion is through the sword. To Islamofascists like Ameri, any opposition to Islam's right to impose itself on the rest of the world is proof that Islam is the only true religion and every one else is wrong. And any one who does not agree with the notion of Islamic supercessionism must either be killed, converted, or forced to live under the dhimmi law under Muslim sovereignty. To them there can no place on the planet for unbelievers and heretics.
15 posted on 03/29/2004 9:37:42 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Eurotwit
Someone should remind this author of the fact that these people are only able to bash Islam because they live in places where it is actually legal to do so. Unlike those places where the "light of Islam" is the dominant authority.
16 posted on 03/29/2004 9:40:37 AM PST by agrace
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To: Colonel_Flagg
People tolerate mosquitoes, until they become pests and breeders of disease and get a good, old-fashioned dose of pesticides.

People tolerate the flu, until they they decide that a vaccine is preferable to a constant runny nose.

People tolerate dogs, until they soil the carpet and chew up the furniture, then they get behavior modification training, or a rolled up newspaper.

People tolerate a trip to the dentists as a necessary evil at least until they get dentures.

People tolerate democrats (small 'd' intentional) because even the lazy and retarded have a right to form a political party if they want to --- then they vote Republican.

People tolerate Islam until Islam decides that slamming airliners into office buildings is legitimate political discourse. Then Islam gets flattened and dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st Cetnury.

If you want to make tolerance arguments, beware that they almost always have a flip side and that flip side is almost always extreme. If Islam wishes to be treated with tolerance, perhaps it should learn to stop referring to the rest of us as Infidels, unbelievers and worthy of death. Perhaps then they might avoid the extreme response to an intolerable situation.

17 posted on 03/29/2004 9:41:00 AM PST by Wombat101 (Sanitized for YOUR protection....)
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To: Eurotwit
The abandonment of tolerance will only lead to hatred and crime.

Actually, we could do with a little less "tolerance" for harboring terrorists, and supporting terrorist organizations from our Muslim neighbors.

18 posted on 03/29/2004 9:43:36 AM PST by Snuffington
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To: Eurotwit
Pipes defended his controversial statement before:

First, Mr. Hooper lists quotations by and about me going back to 1983, and he does so in so sly and selective a fashion that many things end up sounding like the opposite of what was intended. One example: he concludes from a passage in a 1990 article of mine that I am a racist: "Western European societies," he quotes me, "are unprepared for the massive immigration of brown-skinned peoples cooking strange foods and maintaining different standards of hygiene." Yes, I wrote this. But I was not giving my own views, only reporting on the way Europeans think. Mr. Hooper choses not to quote what are clearly my views, provided in the very next paragraph:

"The movement of Muslims to Western Europe creates a great number of painful but finite challenges; there is no reason, however, to see this event leading to a cataclysmic battle between two civilizations. If handled properly, the immigrants can even bring much of value, including new energy, to their host societies."

Second, he misrepresents my argument ("Daniel Pipes once again tries to paint Islam as a threat to America"). Nowhere do I discuss Islam or indicate any feelings, positive or negative, about this faith. Rather, I argue that the chauvinist (or fundamentalist) version of politicized Islam is a threat to America. Its talk about (and sometimes violent actions toward - remember the World Trade Center bombing in New York) overthrowing the U.S. government and replacing it with an Islamic one worries me. Many pious Muslims agree with my view and some publicly denounce the chauvinist program of institutions like Mr. Hooper's organization, CAIR.

http://www.danielpipes.org/article/314

19 posted on 03/29/2004 1:53:21 PM PST by secretagent
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