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Pop Star "Pink" To Play Janis Joplin in Biopic
Cinematic Happenings Under Development (CHUD) ^ | April 2, 2004 | Devin Farachi

Posted on 04/03/2004 11:44:23 AM PST by Long Cut

4.2.04 By Devin Faraci Contributing Sources: Variety,

Oh, come on now. Look, I’m not one of those people who endlessly bemoans the current state of pop culture (guess what, it’s ALWAYS sucked, you just think sh** was better thirty or forty years ago because all the garbage got left behind and you only know about the quality stuff), and I’m definitely not one of those people who gets up in arms when singers or rappers try acting. Actually, I think William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy alone proved that the real danger to our society is when actors cross over to the recording studio.

Still, the news that Pink will be playing Janis Joplin in a biopic filming this summer in The Gospel According to Janis has really gotten on my nerves. And I’m not that big a fan of Joplin. And I don’t think Pink is all that awful a celebrity. I just don’t think that she has the charisma needed to pull off the part.

She does have the pipes, apparently. Pink has been so successful at aping Joplin’s vocals that she’ll be singing all the songs in the film. The movie will be directed by Penelope Spheeris, who would have been a great choice back in the 80s when she made The Decline of Western Civilization, but now her resume is filled with crap like The Beverly Hillbillies.

There’s a competing Janis biopic, Piece of My Heart, which is being developed for the deplorable squinty eyed beast Renee Zellwegger. That film appears to be getting trumped by this independent production. Whether this Spheeris film is the one that Melissa Etheridge was looking to star in is something I just don’t know, so lay off, will ya?


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To: Behind Liberal Lines
No sweat. It's just a light discussion thread, anyways.
21 posted on 04/03/2004 12:47:21 PM PST by Long Cut ("Man, don't hit me with those negative waves SOOoo early in the morning." - Oddball)
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To: Long Cut
It was almost Melissa Etheridge, until her gal-pal (who was supposed to direct the flick) figured out that she couldn't act. They would have turned it into a Femi-Lesbo fest.

I think Melissa could have done the singing, but she's not ugly enough for the part (and now she's way too old). Pink, on the other hand, is definitely ugly enough to play Janis, but I don't think she's a good enough singer.

22 posted on 04/03/2004 12:47:23 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago
Looks don't really have a whole lot to do with who plays a part, if the acting skills are there. Makeup artists are just that.

Charlize Theron looks NOTHING like Aileen Woronous, but she won an academy award for playing her in "Monster". Her acting ability, plus some makeup, supplied the resemblence.

23 posted on 04/03/2004 12:58:49 PM PST by Long Cut ("Man, don't hit me with those negative waves SOOoo early in the morning." - Oddball)
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To: Long Cut
Sorry, I didn't want to give you the impression that I was attacking you for posting. I was simply noting that I can't understand the appeal of either to the general public.
24 posted on 04/03/2004 1:15:40 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Long Cut
Looks don't really have a whole lot to do with who plays a part, if the acting skills are there. Makeup artists are just that. Charlize Theron looks NOTHING like Aileen Woronous, but she won an academy award for playing her in "Monster". Her acting ability, plus some makeup, supplied the resemblence.

And it didn't hurt that the movie had all the PC things in it -- lesbianism, commentary on the death penalty, prostitution, woman-as-victim. Any of those things alone are usually good for an Oscar; put them all together, combined with Hollywood's idea of real acting (gaining weight and looking unattractive in a role), and it was a landslide!

Anyhow, getting back to your original point, acting is much about suspending disbelief -- you need to see that person as the character, not as some famous person pretending to be that character. Much of the time, when you have an actress pretending to be unattractive, it just seems like an affectation (like Gywneth Paltrow or Julia Roberts in a fatsuit.) And I think the hardest roles to pull off are somebody famous playing somebody famous -- did anybody buy James Brolin as Ronald Reagan? No matter how much makeup he had on him, he didn't look like Ronald Reagan, and you couldn't help but think while watching him that he's married to the left-wing Barbra Streisand. Will Smith couldn't pull off Ali, not even with Hollywood's best makeup artists.

25 posted on 04/03/2004 1:48:44 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: NYCVirago
Goopd points, especially about the PC crap. Only Hollywood would give awards out for movies glorifying lesbian serial killers. God, that looks funny just written that way!

Seriously, though, I have seen actors do a great job of vanishing into their roles so you don't notice them, you see only the character.

The Lord Of The Rings trilogy pops to mind, especially Ian McKellen as Gandalf. Also, both Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise (both to my utter surprise) were outstanding in Interview with the Vampire. Pitt was also good in the recent movie Snatch.

26 posted on 04/03/2004 2:21:22 PM PST by Long Cut ("Man, don't hit me with those negative waves SOOoo early in the morning." - Oddball)
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To: Long Cut
Janis was an original.
27 posted on 04/03/2004 2:23:45 PM PST by BunnySlippers (Mairzy Doats and Dozy Doats and Liddle Lamzy Divey ...)
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To: Long Cut
If fact, Janis would puke on Pink.
28 posted on 04/03/2004 2:24:25 PM PST by BunnySlippers (Mairzy Doats and Dozy Doats and Liddle Lamzy Divey ...)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
Oh, no offense taken. I guess the appeal that Joplin had was her ability to put a great deal of heart and soul into her music. She really did make you think that she'd lived every song. She was a perfect woman to sing the Blues; she'd had a hard, sad life.

As for Pink, well, her songs are fun, catchy tunes with a little rebellion in them. Nothing overly artistic, but fun to listen to on a Summer afternoon in the car.

29 posted on 04/03/2004 2:25:15 PM PST by Long Cut ("Man, don't hit me with those negative waves SOOoo early in the morning." - Oddball)
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To: GreenHornet
Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Keith Moon, etc

Speaking of Jim Morrison,I wonder if they'll show in the movie where he grabbed her [Janis]by the head and shoved her face into his crotch at a party they were at,and she came after him with a pistol or something.That'd been a sight to see.

30 posted on 04/03/2004 2:34:20 PM PST by Uncle Meat
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To: Uncle Meat
Well, they didn't show it in the movie about HIM.

Not that they needed to. There was plenty of debauchery to go around. Seemed like NOBODY could out-party 'ol Crazy Jim the Lizard King.

31 posted on 04/03/2004 2:40:37 PM PST by Long Cut ("Man, don't hit me with those negative waves SOOoo early in the morning." - Oddball)
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To: Long Cut
This movie has been in development for years. Why not Pink?
32 posted on 04/03/2004 2:43:09 PM PST by Hildy (A kiss is the unborn child knocking at the door.)
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To: Long Cut
I read that in some book.Nobody Gets Out Of Here Alive I think it was.
33 posted on 04/03/2004 2:52:19 PM PST by Uncle Meat
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To: BunnySlippers
Janis was a door-opener. Most people remember her for her raw sound on so many of her songs, forgetting that she could sing like a sweet little bird too. I still get a chill listening to "Little Girl Blue".

Janis came along at the right time in the right place. She was the true "Candle In The Wind".
34 posted on 04/03/2004 2:54:10 PM PST by whereasandsoforth (tagged for migratory purposes only)
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To: whereasandsoforth
Janis came along at the right time in the right place. She was the true "Candle In The Wind".

If only she hadn't been so self-destructive. Who knows what might have been?

35 posted on 04/03/2004 4:50:16 PM PST by GreenHornet
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To: GreenHornet
Ya'll, it's better this way.
If she'd lived, she would have just sullied it all by
dying hugging a comode or teaming with Slim Whitman on
those "not available in stores" commercials.

She still tears me up.
36 posted on 04/03/2004 4:58:12 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: NYCVirago
I think Melissa could have done the singing, but she's not ugly enough for the part (and now she's way too old). Pink, on the other hand, is definitely ugly enough to play Janis, but I don't think she's a good enough singer.

Actually, Pink *can* sing, but can she act?

37 posted on 04/03/2004 6:26:33 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick ("If I could shoot like that, I would still be in the NBA" -- Bill Clinton, circa 1995)
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To: whereasandsoforth
Janis was a door-opener. Most people remember her for her raw sound on so many of her songs, forgetting that she could sing like a sweet little bird too. I still get a chill listening to "Little Girl Blue".

The one that still gives me chills is the live version of "Piece of My Heart." I *think* it's from Woodstock, but I'm not 100% sure. What a pity she self-destructed.

38 posted on 04/03/2004 6:28:32 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick ("If I could shoot like that, I would still be in the NBA" -- Bill Clinton, circa 1995)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Actually, Pink *can* sing, but can she act?

I don't think she sings very well at all. But compared to Britney, of course, she's a regular Maria Callas!

39 posted on 04/03/2004 10:13:36 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: Long Cut
The Lord Of The Rings trilogy pops to mind, especially Ian McKellen as Gandalf. Also, both Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise (both to my utter surprise) were outstanding in Interview with the Vampire. Pitt was also good in the recent movie Snatch.

I haven't seen those films, so I can't comment. But I've seen Ian McKellen in other things, and he's stolen every movie I've ever seen him in.

40 posted on 04/03/2004 10:15:20 PM PST by NYCVirago
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