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Arabs Bought Their Way Out of Wana (al Qaeda Alert)
Arab News ^ | 4 April 2004 | Huma Aamir Malik

Posted on 04/03/2004 10:47:01 PM PST by AdmSmith

KARACHI, 4 April 2004. Most Arab Al-Qaeda terrorists fled Wana before the military operation began, buying their exit, highly placed sources told Arab News.

Officials said two low-ranking intelligence officers were taken into custody on suspicion of helping Al-Qaeda's No. 2 Ayman Al-Zawahiri escape.

The sources also said that Shakai village near Wana would be the next target of a military operation for reportedly sheltering Al-Qaeda, Taleban and rebel tribal leaders.

Hundreds of Al-Qaeda and Taleban fighters crossed into Pakistan from Afghanistan after heavy bombardment by US coalition forces of their main hideouts in Tora Bora. Around 1,600 with their families are reported to have arrived in groups. One group stayed in Noshera, another in Dera Ismail Khan and a third at the Jalaludin Haqani seminary in Miran Shah. American Taleban John Walker and around 50 British, European and American Al-Qaeda terrorists were among them. Two of the groups were led by Taleban commanders Malik Janan and Sheraz.

According to the sources, the Arabs who had the money settled in these areas, sending their families, especially women and children, to their countries of origin through agents.

The agents from the tribal areas smuggled them out for $2,000 per person. The sources said terrorists from China, Chechnya, Tajikistan and other central Asian states and Arabs preferred to stay in the tribal areas also because local tribes sheltered them, albeit for $100 to 300 a week.

The Arabs settled in Karachi, Lahore, Faisalabad, Kashmir and other parts of Pakistan while the Uzbeks, Chechens and Chinese stayed in the tribal areas and paid up to $300 a week. The tribes cooperated with the fighters in sympathy as well as for money. However, not all tribes cooperated with them. When a group of 120 Al-Qaeda fighters entered Khurram Agency from Tora Bora, the Mangial tribe disarmed, robbed and detained them. They were later freed after paying ransom.

Chinese fighters did not have enough money and most of the foreigners killed in the operation were from this group, the sources said.

The sources said a few Arab families were living in the area before the Tora Bora bombings, but they had no direct links with Al-Qaeda. ?There are settlers in tribal areas on both sides of the Durand Line doing charity work, the sources said, but the United States has stopped differentiating between Al-Qaeda fighters and these Arabs after 9/11.

The Arab and Uzbek fighters had also told the tribal jirga that they were ready to go to the militants' hideouts in South Waziristan to negotiate the release of 14 Pakistani paramilitary soldiers and government officers on March 26 and that they were prepared to surrender if the United Nations guaranteed that they would not be handed over to US forces, sources from Wana said. But the Pakistan Army rejected the offer. Pakistani officials believed this to be an Al-Qaeda trap and they knew the United Nations would not get involved in the operation.

Initially, Islamabad did not have enough information about Al-Qaeda and Taleban fighters to take serious notice of them because Pakistani intelligence agencies did not have an adequate network of ground intelligence in these areas and depended mostly on their agents in the field. But American intelligence had up-to-date reports from its own sources in the tribes and from Afghanistan that said Al-Qaeda fighters were gathering in these areas.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; pakistan; southasia; terrorism; wana
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To: swarthyguy
Yep, and remember that local who harrumphed: Zawahiri left here WEEKS ago.
21 posted on 04/05/2004 4:16:01 PM PDT by txhurl (The Jihadists: spectacular media violence, zero military significance, huge psych significance.)
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To: txflake; Dog; Cap Huff; Boot Hill; Angelus Errare
The news reported today the British Osmium Tetraoxide (causes blindness and death) plot was masterminded from Pakistan. They have the order intercepts.
22 posted on 04/05/2004 4:21:18 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
Sorry I don't know what you mean......did something happen that I missed?
23 posted on 04/05/2004 4:26:57 PM PDT by Dog
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To: swarthyguy
I'm not sure if you remember the Primasheet (clay shape-charge-like explosive) taken from Newark Airport last year. I keep waiting for its use to surface and I wonder what exactly was the stuff used on the Madrid trains.
24 posted on 04/05/2004 4:27:08 PM PDT by txhurl (The Jihadists: spectacular media violence, zero military significance, huge psych significance.)
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To: Dog
The 8 arrested in the London area recently were planning on using this chemical along with ammonium nitrate to set off a bomb, the fumes of which would blind and kill people.

What struck me was the fact the TV said British authorities had intercepts showing the plot masterminded in Pakistan.

Wonder if the British informed the Pakistanis who that mastermind was , and if not, why not?

Just another Pakistani jihad connection.
25 posted on 04/05/2004 4:32:49 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: txflake
I do.

I also recall the SW Air plane over Xmas found with "putty" like material in a bathroom with wires sticking out of it.

Was determined to not be a threat and a false alarm.

Since I'm a paranoid, I don't buy the official line.

I think the man with the detonator didn't make the flight.
26 posted on 04/05/2004 4:39:28 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
Yes, I remember that, too. They opened and shut that SWA case in about 45 minutes, if I remember.
27 posted on 04/05/2004 4:49:19 PM PDT by txhurl (The Jihadists: spectacular media violence, zero military significance, huge psych significance.)
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To: swarthyguy; txflake; Dog; Cap Huff; Angelus Errare
"The news reported today the British Osmium Tetraoxide plot was masterminded from Pakistan."

"Masterminded" might be a bit of an overstatement. In fact, it is way overstated! Osmium Tetroxide, OsO4, is probably one of the most impractical compounds that could ever be selected for use as a chemical weapon component of a terrorist bomb.

First, a mere 100 grams of the stuff would cost between $5,000 and $6,000. Osmium is roughly about 10 times more valuable than gold.

Second, the vapor concentration needed to cause death, in any reasonable time frame, would be too high to make it a practical mass weapon.

Third, the blindness is usually recovered spontaneously and completely within 24 hours.

Fourth, virtually its only commercial use is in the field of scanning electron microscopy. This makes it much easier to track down the perps. And given the very high price and low usage rate of OsO4, stocks on hand will be very small.

So what clues can be gleaned from any intended use of OsO4 by terrorists? Look for someone with very little common sense and who works around scanning electron microscopes.

--Boot Hill

28 posted on 04/05/2004 6:23:24 PM PDT by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!!!)
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To: Boot Hill
Excellent points. But I think they wanted a "panic weapon" to scare the general population.

Now imagine the outcry in England and the sheer panic brought on by the papers over there yelling that AQ used a "chemical weapon" on them.

You think Blair could survive the political upheaval?

I don't......this all about peeling our allies away one at a time.

29 posted on 04/05/2004 6:38:08 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Dog
"But I think they wanted a "panic weapon" to scare the general population."

The only way it can scare the general population, is if the media mis-reports the facts the way they did here.

"...this all about peeling our allies away one at a time."

I agree, that is the their motivation, but the only way for them to be successful, would be to drive a wedge between Blair and Bush. This is not a wedge, but a stupid move on the part of the press. In fact, this will tend to strengthen the resolve of the British, just like the Nazi WW-II terror bombing of London did.

--Boot Hill

30 posted on 04/05/2004 6:55:58 PM PDT by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!!!)
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To: AdmSmith
"As Pakistani forces hunt on their side, U.S. forces have mounted an operation on the Afghan side of the border in what the Pentagon has called a "hammer and anvil" action to catch al Qaeda leaders, possibly Osama bin Laden.

About 2,000 U.S. Marine reinforcements have been arriving in Afghanistan to intensify the hunt while Pakistan has been moving fresh troops up to its side of the border."

Hope they don't have any major screw-ups (like escape by tunnel)
31 posted on 04/05/2004 8:15:06 PM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( President Bush 3-20-04))
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