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1 posted on 04/06/2004 12:49:23 PM PDT by doug9732
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Free trade ping
2 posted on 04/06/2004 12:52:54 PM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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3 posted on 04/06/2004 12:54:10 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Freepers post from sun to sun, but a fundraiser bot's work is never done.)
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To: doug9732; A. Pole; lelio
its unreal, its more like an evacuation then an orderly movement.
4 posted on 04/06/2004 12:55:22 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: neutrino
Ping.
5 posted on 04/06/2004 12:56:16 PM PDT by EagleMamaMT
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NO KIDDING !
6 posted on 04/06/2004 12:56:27 PM PDT by traumer
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To: doug9732; iamright; AM2000; Iscool; wku man; Lael; international american; No_Doll_i; techwench; ...
The significance of the U.S. losing advantage to China in technology trade has far-reaching consequences. With less than one-quarter of China's population and a vastly more expensive living standard to sustain, the United States cannot compete without a large technological advantage.

Looks like the free traitors are close to accomplishing their goal - the subordination of the U.S. to China.

If you want on or off my offshoring ping list, please FReepmail me!

7 posted on 04/06/2004 12:57:46 PM PDT by neutrino (Oderint dum metuant: Let them hate us, so long as they fear us.)
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Maybe the Chinese will let our kids train in their schools as a guesture of good will the way we trained them.
9 posted on 04/06/2004 1:02:21 PM PDT by DannyTN
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The superiority the United States has held in technology trade has suddenly vanished.

Coming even sooner than anticipated. It was inevitable given the falloff in US dominance in science the past few years. It's going to be next to impossible to recover the lead unless the new NASA space program inspires the youth.

10 posted on 04/06/2004 1:04:20 PM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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Whoopie. Services is where it's at. And our Mexicans are better than theirs...
14 posted on 04/06/2004 1:14:29 PM PDT by guitfiddlist
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Whine, whine, whine.

Like all this hasn't happened before.

In the late 60's/70's, it was aerospace workers who were whining and having to find new careers.

There was a huge uptick in IT several years ago. Driven mainly by panic over Y2K and conversions to new Windows systems.

Now the expansion is over, and surprise, surprise, surprise, fewer people are needed in IT. I'm sure the first hit was on the "head hunters", but at least they're salesmen and they can go sell cars now.

If Kerry gets elected, one of the main reasons will be because he promises "10 million new IT jobs" and to fight outsourcing. To that extent, threads like this one look to me to be Kerry advertisements.

20 posted on 04/06/2004 1:52:57 PM PDT by narby (Clarke's job was to prevent terrorist attacks, but he's better at CYA)
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Kill free trade before it kills us, bump.
21 posted on 04/06/2004 1:54:42 PM PDT by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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There's a lot this story doesn't mention.  Here's a quote from the US Trade Representative's (USTR) office.

"-- Failing to protect intellectual property rights (IPR). Enforcement of IPR laws was "seriously inadequate," the report said, noting a US estimate that the value of counterfeit goods in China amounted to 19 billion to 24 billion dollars. Estimated US losses exceeded 1.8 billion dollars a year."

This is costing me between 10K and 40K daily in lost royalties alone.  It is keeping me from increasing my staff.

WE SHOULD NOT CONDUCT BUSINESS IN ANY COUNTRY THAT DOES NOT RECOGNIZE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY RIGHTS.

I've no intention of introducing any more products until our government has signed a treaty with China that protects our Constitutional rights.

Article. I. Section. 8. Clause 8:

"To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries"

27 posted on 04/06/2004 2:30:04 PM PDT by backtothestreets
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Pardon me if this is redundant.

Free traders are quick to invoke Reagan, who did support a lowering of trade barriers. They forget though that Reagan was the father of "Operation Exodus" and the initiator of the gentleman's agreement between the Western Nations to not sell advanced technology to the Soviets. Selling your best technology, and the factories to make the goods, to countries that want to destroy you is a serious mistake. I don't think President Bush is looking far enough ahead to see this.

I have to much admiration and respect for China to expect her to do anything other than what she has done throughout her history; which is to strive to be the center of the universe, the Middle Kingdom, the hegemon over all she surveys. And right no she surveys the entire Pacific Rim.
30 posted on 04/06/2004 2:53:13 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Where there is no vision, the people perish.)
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ping
31 posted on 04/06/2004 3:11:51 PM PDT by Mrs Zip
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Hey, I've got a great idea. Let's create a free operating system derived from protected IP, screw over American software companies, and export jobs to India, China, and Pakistan! /SARCASM
37 posted on 04/06/2004 5:41:25 PM PDT by Bush2000
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For the first time ever, the United States has a negative trade balance in technology goods and services and from royalties on intellectual property and patents. The superiority the United States has held in technology trade has suddenly vanished.

"Free" trade bump.

38 posted on 04/06/2004 7:15:41 PM PDT by A. Pole (<SARCASM> The genocide of Albanians was stopped in its tracks before it began.</S>)
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Got a link?
39 posted on 04/06/2004 7:18:15 PM PDT by findingtruth
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As I've said over and over again This is the new SLAVE LABOR!! We've been sold out - replaced by it and they're telling us it's good for us.
42 posted on 04/06/2004 7:25:35 PM PDT by Havoc ("The line must be drawn here. This far and no further!")
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To: doug9732
Follow the money.
44 posted on 04/06/2004 7:29:10 PM PDT by LibertyAndJusticeForAll
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What is it Pat Buccanan (SP?)said?

We export beans to China and they ship us computers. The U.S. trade profile looks like a banana republic.

In ten years the freetraders have given it all away.
51 posted on 04/06/2004 7:41:48 PM PDT by underbyte (Arrogance will drop your IQ 50 points)
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