More copyright complaints

Free Republic | April 8, 2004 | Jim Robinson

[Howlin]

I know......it was just an example.

[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

Wouldn't the ASCAP and BMI fees cover canned house music also? I don't know of any food/beverage establishment that doesn't have some form of music incorporated in their environment.

[CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC]

Run the article through an ebonics translator,

Did you hear the bad news from the North Pole? Mrs. Claus has sued for divorce! Apparently she found out that for all these years now, when Santa was saying "HO! HO! HO!" to her, he was actually speaking in Ebonics.

[Keith in Iowa]

>>>The Liberty ComPost doesn't require excerpting, but I think all of two people in an Arkansas trailer park read that forum.

Those that do are delighted by this thread...socks-smoking whazoo apertures...

[texasbluebell]

You got it.

We should just paraprase the living heck out of their stupid articles, being certain to note who the original writer was.

If the original writer doesn't like how s/he was paraphrased, too darn bad.

It's their tough luck, and their fault, if they don't like the turn of phrase we use.

[Jim Robinson]

Documenting and archiving is one of our arguments.

[JustAmy]

LOL

I like your droll (not troll) sense of humor.

WE have also been getting a few more pieces of mail from idiots that resort to calling us vulgar names. They do not have the vocabulary to tell us they do not agree with us so they resort to name calling. Guess it makes them feel superior.

If this is a coordinated effort, it may be from these same people.

[BJungNan]

Jim,
I do not think going to all excepted articles will be a problem or major set back.

Most Freepers are up on the news and really the articles are just a starting point for the majority of discussion.

We can click to the link for the rest of the detail as needed. And certainly others will post details to ehance the discussion thread.

On a side note: Perhaps you should advise the complaining news orgainzations that when they pick up breaking FR reporting, they are to attribute FR as the source.

There are many instances when breaking news is directly lifted off FR by these news outlets. We do, after all, have the largest number of reporters in the field of any news organization.

Best Regards,
BJN

[Indy Pendance]

Another thought, possibly they aren't posting and trashing their reporting? Of course it's all an attack against conservatives. We have a voice now, that's more powerful day by day. Look at how they're trying to shut down talk radio. Now, the internet. Can we host FR overseas (That would be ironic) without penalties?

[4mycountry]

I usually only post vanities, if I post threads at all.

Just to be on the safe side, should I experpt those? (Kidding!)

[4mycountry]

experpt = excerpt

That's what I get for posting at a quarter til 1AM.

[jpsb]

I will try my simple common sense idea one more time before giving up.

Newspapers want hits on their web site so that they can sell advertising, perfectly understandable. One way (ugly) around this problem would be to place at random, an ad from a list of news paper advertisers as the first reply. I think most paper would go for something like that. It would help them and would not be a terrible thing for FR.

[Chad Fairbanks]

Venues with jukeboxes etc... used to have to pay those fees to ASCAP/BMI.. now, I think they go through the JLO to do that... its been a while, but there used to be two fees period - one to ASCAP, and one to BMI, and they were not all all too expensive for even the smallest bar to pay - it's just another cost of doing business, really - and as I stated in an earlier post, live entertainment was rarely a losing proposition for a bar - unless the bar was already having financial trouble to begin with...

[BJungNan]

And some of the press doesn't seem to have a problem using information that Freepers research

Bump to that! I've seen it happen.

[NormsRevenge]

Probably "graduates" of social engineering institutes (skoolz) in california ;-)

If the McClatchys go buhbye, that's the FResno, Modesto and Sac Bee plus the Merced Star Sun in California, and a few other papers nationwide, the Mpls Red Star Tribune is already on the FR list of excerpt only.

[supercat]

We should just paraprase the living heck out of their stupid articles, being certain to note who the original writer was.

One of the difficulties with any sort of excerpting or paraphrasing is that the source being excerpted or paraphrased can complain that their words were distorted or taken out of context. Unless the original (and unaltered) source is available for comparison, there's no way for the person who excerpted or paraphrased the work to defend against such a charge.

If I try to tell others that e.g. the L.A. Times said something hateful and someone accuses me of taking their words of context, how can I show that I didn't take their words out of context but am not allowed to include the full context in which they appeared?

[pending]

Excerpting never bugged me, and for them clicks equals cash.

The more frequent "registration" page seems to my bias to be a left wing publication thing?

Any indication of other sites having the same issues?
Is the list primarliy left wing?


Google caches the goods...But
It does hurt to not have the nice database here, though.

The ones that seem extreme and silly are the "no excerpt" folks. Seems extremely shortsighted.

[Jim Robinson]

I don't know. There are a lot of papers we post from and a lot of people to convince. And not all are even in America.

[ambrose]

You might want to consider hiring a clever corporate lawyer to chop up Free Republic, LLC, into multiple entities such that the company that is actually hosting the forum has no assets or equipment.

For example, Company A leases Free Republic software and computer equipment to Company B. Company B buys the server space. Publishers complain to Company B, but Company B having no assets of its own is free to ignore the complaints. If sued, Company B declares BK, company A takes back its computers, etc., and then Company C is formed...

I don't know if this is do-able, but it is worth checking out...

[Indy Pendance]

hahahah! ROTFLOL!