Humans Took 1000 Years To Tame Wild Plants

ABC.Net ^ | 4-13-2004 | Anna Salleh

[blam]

Ping.

[VadeRetro]

Pre-pottery Neolithic Ping!

[Tacis]

I understand that Kennedy and the other crap weasels are planning, if it will make Bush look bad, to demand a hearing on why this took so long.

[jolie560]

Histories of farming and gardening are interesting in their recording of many cases of crop failure and many cases of crop success.

The weather and plundering had much effect on the success of agriculture.

[ShadowDancer]

I love these posts of yours. Thanks.

[kitkat]

BUMP for interesting reading later, but I have to go find out which TV station is carrying our President's speech right now. Blam, this article sounds fascinating.

[CobaltBlue]

Coincidentally I just got a copy of "The Origin of Fruits and Vegetables" today from Amazon.com.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0789306565/qid=1081900730/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2816519-9044641?v=glance&s=books

Just started reading it, but one of the things I've learned so far is that the earliest cultivated fruits and vegetables, not surprisingly, are ones that are very easy to cultivate by transplanting cuttings of stems or roots, like figs, grapes, pomegranates, olives, and dates.

Of course, climate matters, too. Olives are not cold-tolerant, but hate tropical climates even worse than a little cold, so that where they grow essentially defines the Mediterranean climate.

If you are interested in the history of horticulture (I am a sucker for this stuff) you might like this book.

[kitkat]

***I understand that Kennedy and the other crap weasels are planning, if it will make Bush look bad, to demand a hearing on why this took so long.***

Yup! Same thing with Noah's ark. First they said Noah couldn't build it without multi-lateral approval. Then when he did it anyway, they blamed him for not building it sooner and saving all the people.

[EggsAckley]

I've always wondered who it was who first figured out how to prepare an artichoke. I mean, they are such nasty plants when raw that it's amazing that someone thought to cook them. Maybe they were very, very hungry. LOL!

[farmfriend]

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[Dog Gone]

I'm amazed that agriculture ever existed at the Dead Sea.

The "Land of Milk and Honey" is the biggest spin job of all time.

[bannie]

Humans took 1000 years to tame wild plants

Damned weeds...

[bannie]

Fun stuff.

I took a course in "Plagues and People" several years ago...same kind of fun.

[SoCal Pubbie]

"Scientists have dated the site to about 9600 to 9300 years old. Archaeologists refer to that as 9600 to 9300 years before present (BP), where 'present' is defined as 1950 AD. "

I've noticed a real trend away from dating history by using the terms B.C or A.D. Often the term BCE (before the common era) is used, which is really ridiculous, since it is the same as B.C. except it does not name the birth of Christ directly. Sort of like renaming Christmas break the "Winter Holiday".

Now this BP is not only embarrassingly PC but more confusing to boot. Calling 1950 the "present" means in order to figure out how old a given date is, you have to add the number of years since 1950, then add that to the date. Since we are still dating on years based on the convention of the birth of Jesus, what's the point?

[PatrickHenry]

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[Lurking Libertarian]

I've noticed a real trend away from dating history by using the terms B.C or A.D. Often the term BCE (before the common era) is used, which is really ridiculous, since it is the same as B.C. except it does not name the birth of Christ directly. Sort of like renaming Christmas break the "Winter Holiday".

In this field, the practice is much older than recent political correctness. Jewish scholars were the first to use "BCE" and "CE" --probably as long ago as the 19th century--in order to use the same dates as everyone else without explicitly acknowledging Christianity. Moslems picked this up from Jews. Historians and archaeologists who study the Middle East then picked it up, in order to avoid offending the Jews and Moslems they have to deal with in order to get permission for their digs. So in Middle eastern history, you will find that BCE/CE dates have been common for over 50 years.

[blam]

"I've always wondered who it was who first figured out how to prepare an artichoke."

I would start your search for that person around Castroville.

[jolie560]

I wonder, whenever I boil them, who figured out how to eat artichokes in the first place. My best guess is that it was an accident----somone threw the thing into a boiling pot while no one else was looking.

[Shryke]

Artichokes? That's nothing. Please look into the delicacies enjoyed in Asia, such a a rotting egg/cabage/etc. UNBELIEVABLE what people can eat.