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Meth abuse elevates HIV crisis for gays
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 04/17/04 | CAMERON McWHIRTER, JILL YOUNG MILLER

Posted on 04/18/2004 2:10:14 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken

When Patrick Smith started using methamphetamine, he quickly found that sex and the potent drug — which gay men call Tina or Crystal — became hopelessly connected.

Whenever he had sex, he wanted meth. Whenever he was high on meth, he wanted sex.

A methamphetamine user since he was 16, Smith spent years having anonymous, unprotected sex while high. He took the drug whenever he could. He hooked up with male partners — he has no idea how many — at large dance parties and at all-night sex clubs.

Smith ran out of money and prostituted himself. He was hospitalized about six times after overdosing on combinations of drugs. Meth was always in the mix.

One morning about two years ago, Smith woke up in his living room after a meth binge. His head was gashed and bleeding. Shattered glass lay everywhere.

"My head had crashed through a glass table, and I didn't remember any of it," said Smith, 24.

He checked into a yearlong drug rehab program. After medical tests, counselors told him he had contracted HIV, the virus that causes AIDS. He believes he contracted the disease while having sex with strangers while on meth.

According to a new study of gay men in San Francisco by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, men who used meth were twice as likely to have unprotected sex as those who did not. Another study, by the San Francisco Department of Public Health, found that men who used meth were more than three times as likely to be HIV-positive.

Gay health organizations in San Francisco and New York have launched public awareness campaigns warning about meth use and HIV transmission through risky sexual behavior.

Smith is one of a growing number of young gay men in Atlanta who believe they contracted HIV after meth abuse and risky sex. But in metro Atlanta, which has the largest concentration of gays in the Deep South, AIDS groups have not yet started meth-specific education campaigns. The problem, however, has become a crisis, say some therapists and medical experts who treat gay men.

"They are taking outrageous risks," said John Ballew, an Atlanta therapist who says two-thirds of his clients are gay men. "It has really become associated with the fast-lane night life among certain gay men. My professional take on it is, the problem is just as bad as [in] New York or San Francisco or Los Angeles."

Meth use among gay men in Atlanta is "really, really insidious," said Michael Dubin, a counselor whose clients are all gay men. "From what I am hearing from friends and from clients, it is a lot more extensive than any of us would like to think, especially in the club scene. And it leads to people throwing caution to the wind — when they know better."

Dr. Sanjay Sharma, a psychiatrist at Grady Health System's infectious disease program, said the drug's use among gay men has become a serious health concern. "A lot of these substances, crystal meth in particular, are associated with euphoria and hypersexuality," he said. "And along with that, increased sexual risk-taking behaviors, and then an overall impaired judgment. That's not a good combination of effects."

Many gay men have never tried methamphetamine. Some have only experimented briefly with the drug. But a minority of gay men habitually abuse the drug during sexual encounters with multiple partners. For these men, meth use has become part of sex.

Meth, a psychostimulant that excites pleasure centers in the brain, makes users feel euphoric for hours. The drug impairs judgment, lowers inhibitions, keeps people awake for days, and can increase sexual arousal.

"They go from feeling like wallflowers to feeling like supermen," Ballew said. "Safer sex messages are just forgotten."

Many men have told Ballew the drug is rampant in their social circle. "This drug has become almost normalized in the community," he said. "It's hard to see how it could become more of a problem."

Decades of drug abuse

Methamphetamine has been abused in the United States for decades, especially on the West Coast. The drug can be snorted, injected, swallowed and smoked, and some gay men insert it anally.

The meth crisis among gay men is occurring in tandem with a dramatic surge in meth use by heterosexuals, especially in rural areas across Georgia and the nation. The potent, cheap drug is the leading illegally manufactured drug in the nation, according to the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration.

Meth abuse among urban, rural and suburban heterosexuals has increased crime and caused enormous health and social problems. But the drug use among heterosexuals has not been as associated with risky sexual behavior as it is among young gay men living in cities like Atlanta.

Smith said he had sworn off meth and other illegal drugs since he fell through the table. But he said the allure of the drug was powerful.

"It gives people a way to have sex for hours and hours and hours," said Smith, who grew up in Marietta and now lives in Decatur. "It's the greatest euphoria you can ever feel."

'Party and play'

Meth is so linked with this subculture of gay men engaging in anonymous sex with strangers that men advertise either that they have the drug or want it during sex in personal ads and on the Internet. Their notices carry the phrase "PnP" for "party and play," a euphemism for crystal methamphetamine and sex.

"People will have what they call Tina sex parties," said Danny Sprouse, coordinator of HIV prevention and mental health services for gay and bisexual men at Positive Impact Inc., an Atlanta nonprofit that counsels people with HIV. "They may set up some rules at the beginning to say, 'You can only have safe sex.' So they'll have a lot of condoms available."

Or they may have Tina parties where condoms aren't even allowed, Sprouse said, "where they say, 'We're only going to have unsafe sex.' "

Even at condoms-only Tina parties, men don't always use protection as the drug kicks in and the night wears on, he said.

John, a 36-year-old gay man who lives in Midtown, said he wished he had never touched the stuff.

"On Tina, you make bad judgments about safe sex, about your life, about just about everything," he said.

John asked that his last name not be published. He has known since 1997 he is HIV-positive. He used meth for more than 18 months until he quit, with great difficulty, this Jan. 1, he said.

While on methamphetamine, he frequented all-night Atlanta sex clubs and often had anonymous, unprotected sex with men who also were high on the drug, he said.

"I think there's a possibility that I may have infected someone. I couldn't tell you who," John said. "And I have the feeling that the people that I did have unprotected sex with had already had unprotected sex with other people, so there's no way for them to know if it would have been me or someone else."

Clubs encourage safety

All-male clubs in Atlanta, such as the bathhouse Flex, generally have policies banning drugs on the premises, distribute free condoms, and encourage their patrons to use protection.

At Flex, if a customer is discovered using or selling drugs, "we revoke their membership and immediately dismiss them from the property," said Charles Fleck, who lives in Miami and owns a chain of male bathhouses including Flex.

Gay men are much more likely to associate meth with sex, though prolonged abuse of the drug has been known to affect a man's ability to maintain an erection, according to Michael Siever, founder and director of the San Francisco-based Stonewall Project, which counsels gay and bisexual men about the risks of abusing methamphetamine.

Immune system hurt

Researchers have found that meth abuse also wears on the immune system, making it more dangerous for men with HIV.

Some researchers have said the drug also adversely interacts with HIV medications.

Meth use and attendant HIV transmission has become such a concern in New York City that Gay Men's Health Crisis, one of the nation's largest gay AIDS/HIV groups, has launched a major education campaign there. The organization is putting up billboards, sending out mailings, sponsoring workshops and dispatching counselors into the community to talk about meth abuse and HIV.

"We want to cut the chain link between using crystal, impaired judgment, risky sex and HIV transmission," said Eric Altman, a GMHC associate director.

While no such methamphetamine education program is under way in Atlanta, AID Atlanta has launched a program that includes passing out condoms at gay clubs.

"I'm not telling them what to do as far as how many sex partners they have," said Michael Clifford, an HIV prevention specialist with AID Atlanta who visits the clubs. "What I am telling them — or asking them to consider and think about — is the way that they practice their sex, to protect themselves."

'Just one weekend'

Sprouse said several of his clients at Positive Impact believed they contracted HIV by having unsafe sex while they were high on meth.

One client was diagnosed with the virus after only one weekend of meth use and sex, he said. The man, whom Sprouse described as shy, churchgoing and in his mid-20s, told him he had had "very limited" sexual experience and had practiced only safe sex before that weekend.

"Some friends of his introduced him to Tina on a Thursday evening," Sprouse said. "He started using Tina that night and stopped on Monday morning. . . . He lost count over the weekend when he hit having sex with 12 men."

About a month later, the man "developed a flulike syndrome, went and got tested, and was HIV-positive," Sprouse said. "He came in clearly overwhelmed. In his mind he was thinking this was just one weekend. One weekend, and it has impacted him for the rest of his life."

By the end of last year, John, the HIV-positive man in Midtown, was using meth every day, a habit that cost him about $250 a week, and he had quit his job.

He also had stopped taking his HIV medications.

"I was like, 'I'm just going to let it take me down. I'm just going to keep doing it until it kills me.' "

He also was imagining voices. "They would repeat everything I thought. They would make fun of me."

One night at home, enraged at the voices in his head, John took a black marker and wrote — over and over — on a white leather chair, "They stole your mind."

He keeps the chair in his bedroom as a personal warning: Stay away from Tina.

Staff writer David Wahlberg contributed to this article.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aids; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; meth; riskybehavior
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I read this article carefully for any mention of the cost of state of federally funded programs that this chump was on. No mention - because the press treats this issue as if the cost of this fellow's behavioral choices is paid for with money that grows on trees.

The most important function of the law should be to internalize the cost of actions which would otherwise be externalities - costs foisted on the taxpaying population in general. If this reckless fool's behavior isn't the epitome of that - I don't know what is.

1 posted on 04/18/2004 2:10:15 PM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
And this is part of the contingent that thinks legalizing drugs and sanctioning homosexual marriage is going to make this all go away. I'd pity the poor bastards if it weren't for the fact that they're ALL fully in control of their actions, and fully aware of the consequences that it brings. It goes beyond an exercise in moral choice; it's a matter of life or death.


2 posted on 04/18/2004 2:18:09 PM PDT by Viking2002
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
Free Meth for all gays.

No free health care as it would interfere with their lifestyle choices.

Problem solved.

3 posted on 04/18/2004 2:22:15 PM PDT by Mark was here (My tag line was about to be censored.)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
People have a right to be stupid with their lives. But where is the law enforcement for illegal drug activity? Also, if this guy started his drug/sex rampages at 16, he must have been in High School with access to other kids. That's where I have a BIG problem. How many kids did this guy influence - explicitly or implicitly? We all know what peer pressure is like for our kids. So, even if this guy finds his way (or dies), he'll never be able to erase his damage. So, accuse me of what you will, but I will shelter my daughter as if her life depends on it - because it truly does. Parents need help because the scumbags are everywhere and it doesn't take much to ruin a child. Expel the troublemakers, jail the criminals and PLEASE, give the good kids a chance.

k.

4 posted on 04/18/2004 2:26:23 PM PDT by kdot
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To: kdot
Oh and one more thing, where is the self control? There are a lot of things I want but don't have because they aren't right. I hate to inject politics into this, but I can't help it. Don't be a democrat - draw the line somewhere when it comes to morality.
5 posted on 04/18/2004 2:29:06 PM PDT by kdot
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To: Mrs Mark
That is a nasty remark.
6 posted on 04/18/2004 2:32:43 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
The weakest have always been an easy target for the self-righteous.
7 posted on 04/18/2004 2:34:39 PM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero - something's gonna happen..)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
I've met several people who did meth, in the neighborhood we lived in. As far as I know they were heterosexual. The advanced stages are eyes like pissholes in the snow and rotten teeth. A longtime friend of one of my daughters lifted the rent money out of her wallet, after my girl took her to the store. Needless to say, that was the final end to that friendship.

Several people went in on a house on my street, and it was approximately 500k selling price. I got a good look at the man, as they mistook my son in law having an altercation with psychobitch, as something to do with their daughter. Along with impaired reasoning, he has the dead eyes and the bad teeth. Yippeeee, we've got tweekers for neighbors!
8 posted on 04/18/2004 2:37:16 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
Just out of curiosity, who is "psychobitch"??
9 posted on 04/18/2004 2:40:17 PM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero - something's gonna happen..)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
"On Tina, you make bad judgments about safe sex, about your life, about just about everything," he said."

I submit this statement for belaboring the f**king obvious award.

This one might even retire the trophy.

sickened at their degeneracy regards,

10 posted on 04/18/2004 2:49:43 PM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
Of course I feel sorry for anyone who has AIDS but when are people going to get the message about high risk behavior?
11 posted on 04/18/2004 3:01:23 PM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
This article could have been written any day for the last thirty years, with the exception of the HIV part (then it's twenty years). Speed kills. Always has, always will. Anybody who is around drugs enough to score knows this. The ones who ruin their lives either don't care or mistakenly believe they are among the few who can dabble but not indulge. All this excuse-making about the "victim" being a wholesome innocent who didn't know the dangers until it was too late is complete and utter b.s. in 99.99+% of the cases. Speed kills. Don't play the game if you care what happens to you. Period.
12 posted on 04/18/2004 3:07:31 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
I have been reading the Porn Industry news...I was interested to note that LA County taxpayers pay for STD testing for the porn stars. Just lovely.

13 posted on 04/18/2004 3:14:38 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (for discussion purposes only!)
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To: kdot
He lost count over the weekend when he hit having sex with 12 men.

These men have no self-control and no self-respect.

14 posted on 04/18/2004 3:15:09 PM PDT by Fraulein
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To: Torie
"That is a nasty remark."

Sorry, we should charge for the Meth, what was I thinking?

15 posted on 04/18/2004 3:30:02 PM PDT by Mark was here (My tag line was about to be censored.)
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To: Mrs Mark
Advocating government programs to facilitate the more rapid death of a subgroup that discommodes you, is at once both nasty and selfish, and of course morally wrong. I hope that helps.
16 posted on 04/18/2004 3:34:47 PM PDT by Torie
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To: AntiGuv
Oh that's just one of her many names. She moved in to the house across the street when I was 10. I moved back a few years ago because my mom had Alzheimers and dementia. Out of sheer frustration, I've posted about her here occasionally. She ignored me for a couple of years, or so I thought. She was the one who would call the cops every time I left the house. After she was fired from the school district, she asked me to help her move some boxes for her. What a mess. She crossed some boundaries with us, and when we tried to disengage from her, she started making threats and spreading lies.

She's on a natural high, and of course hooked right up with the tweekers on the corner :-(

As far as the cops and the City...see my tagline. Property values uber alles.
17 posted on 04/18/2004 3:36:47 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
He believes he contracted the disease while having sex with strangers while on meth.



Well whata ya know!!
18 posted on 04/18/2004 3:40:21 PM PDT by WKB (3!~ Term Limits: Because politicians are like diapers., need to be changed for the same reason.)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
"I think there's a possibility that I may have infected someone. I couldn't tell you who," John said. "And I have the feeling that the people that I did have unprotected sex with had already had unprotected sex with other people, so there's no way for them to know if it would have been me or someone else."



I nominate this Guy for "Rocket Scientist of the Year"
19 posted on 04/18/2004 3:43:01 PM PDT by WKB (3!~ Term Limits: Because politicians are like diapers., need to be changed for the same reason.)
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To: Torie
I really feel no charity towards those who knowingly and purposefully choose to harm themselves. I would rather help those whose misfortune is accidental. If thats called being self-righteous so be it.

Do you feel the government should insure houses built on the ocean front, only to rebuild them year after year?

Where does personal responsibility fit into your vocabulary?

People who are aware of Aids, and continue to seek their pleasure with reckless abandon, are aware of the storm approaching, and deserve no shelter in the taxpayers wallet.
20 posted on 04/18/2004 3:47:41 PM PDT by Mark was here (My tag line was about to be censored.)
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To: rogue yam
If I can expand on your point, when one is on drugs your reasoning abilities are not there. Homosexuality, was for the longest time, listed as a mental condition. Add something like Ecstasy, amyl nitrite, or any kind of stimulant, and you've got a recipe for disaster.

Until these folks(I'm talking about anyone who does "speed") quit doing the drugs, they aren't able to control themselves.
21 posted on 04/18/2004 3:50:11 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: Mrs Mark
I respect your point of view, however sometimes a person will do something once, and it will be their last act of choice. I could put that better, but it's hard to describe. I've seen some things over the years, and I can't explain why people choose to self destruct. In fact, I don't think it's a cognizant choice. We're living in strange times.
22 posted on 04/18/2004 3:55:07 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Torrance Ca....land of the flying monkeys)
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To: Mrs Mark
You advocated hastening their death with free meth, not cutting off subsidies. You are free to retract your statement, or just say you were being sarcastic.
23 posted on 04/18/2004 4:06:14 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Mrs Mark
Sorry, we should charge for the Meth, what was I thinking?

That's gonna leave a mark, Mrs Mark!

Just thank Torie for the interest in your comments, and move on. :-)

24 posted on 04/18/2004 4:13:35 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Kristen Breitweiser didn't want to learn how to land the 9/11 Commission; she only wanted to steer)
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To: Torie
OK, Torie - you've proved that you're the Church Lady of this thread.

BTW - did you actually read the article, or just Mrs Mark's comment?

25 posted on 04/18/2004 4:17:07 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Kristen Breitweiser didn't want to learn how to land the 9/11 Commission; she only wanted to steer)
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To: Torie
I do not find it either selfish OR nasty when someone advocates letting a subcultural group commit hara kari via its own self destructive behaviour.

This same self-destructive group has spent a fortune in money, time and effort trying to destroy the basics of Western culture: religion and the family unit. They find it neither selfish OR nasty to ruin young lives with their seductions; they care not that they are infecting others and affecting whole families.

So, I ask you, as the defender of those projecting their sins upon us: What is wrong with deviates facing the consequences of their own behaviour?

26 posted on 04/18/2004 4:21:23 PM PDT by doberville (Angels can fly when they take themselves lightly)
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To: an amused spectator
Ya, I read the article. The guy was in a very sad way.
27 posted on 04/18/2004 4:21:24 PM PDT by Torie
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To: doberville
I have made my points, and I think quick clearly. And by the way, no I don't favored subsidized flood insurance. Somebody mentioned that.
28 posted on 04/18/2004 4:22:28 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
quick = quite
29 posted on 04/18/2004 4:23:03 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
Gay marriage, partners for life.

The myth of the monogomous gay man is just that a fairy tale. ( pun intended)

28% of Gays have >500 sexual partners in a life time.

I for one am sick to death of moral equavalence trying to normalize depraved behavior.

The only women that can rack up numbers like this is hookers , Straight men can't have a score card like this without being Hugh Hefner or a professional basket ball player.
30 posted on 04/18/2004 4:25:20 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED
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To: little jeremiah
Ping
31 posted on 04/18/2004 4:28:57 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: Torie
Torie as someone who has to work in "Baghdad by the Bay" and have the ...hem.. Privilege of working with members of the FREAK community I have seen and heard enough that it makes me ill. To think that these people deserve anything less than scorn is a disservice to them.
32 posted on 04/18/2004 4:31:57 PM PDT by glaseatr
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To: Torie
Ya, I read the article. The guy was in a very sad way.

Actually, there were several guys.

The article was a biased pity party for "the afflicted". I didn't like the tone of the article, nor the assumption of the writers that we taxpayers should just keep paying the tab for this insanity, as another poster pointed out.

I'll bet these "journalists" have got articles about tobacco use out wherein they beat smokers over the head for their "bad choices" and gleefully cheerlead confiscatory tobacco taxation.

I'm actually going to post that before I check, too.

33 posted on 04/18/2004 4:32:40 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Kristen Breitweiser didn't want to learn how to land the 9/11 Commission; she only wanted to steer)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
I blame Reagan...er, I mean Bush. No, I mean Reagan.
34 posted on 04/18/2004 4:36:14 PM PDT by Guillermo ("Oh yeah? Well if you do it again, I'm gonna have only one word for you: 'Outta here.'" - Paul Sr.)
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To: Torie; AntiGuv; Mrs Mark
Not as nasty as what homosexuals do to each other and themselves.

And where does the self-righteous part come in?

Are you saying that anyone who considers promiscuous same sex sodomy to be unnatural and unhealthy and therefore should not be promoted to be self-righteous?

If that's your meaning, it's an odd one.
35 posted on 04/18/2004 4:38:33 PM PDT by little jeremiah (...men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: Fraulein
No, they were born that way. It's genetic.
36 posted on 04/18/2004 4:39:36 PM PDT by Guillermo ("Oh yeah? Well if you do it again, I'm gonna have only one word for you: 'Outta here.'" - Paul Sr.)
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To: *Homosexual Agenda; EdReform; scripter; GrandMoM; backhoe; Yehuda; Clint N. Suhks; saradippity; ...
Homosexual Agenda Ping - You Gotta Check This One Out Alert!

Just see where taxpayer money goes - what with clinics, safe sex education programs, detox programs, and therapy.

There's too much to comment on here.

Take it away!

It is sad, as one poster noted. But when people with SSAD (Same Sex Attraction Disorder) are encouraged to not only continue with their unnatural behavior, but "questioning" youth are ENCOURAGED to "try it", my sympathy for their disease ridden and drug influenced suffering ends, and my outrage at their predation grows.

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this ping list.
37 posted on 04/18/2004 4:50:47 PM PDT by little jeremiah (...men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: little jeremiah
And where does the self-righteous part come in?

It comes in when people ignore the genuine questions raised by this article (how did things go so hideously awry with a 16 year old and why, if true, is methamphetamine use so disproportionally prevalent amongst gays & what can be done to reverse the situation) so that they may instead express their reflexive, judgmental, and slightly backwards moralism.

38 posted on 04/18/2004 4:53:20 PM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero - something's gonna happen..)
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To: AntiGuv
What do you mean by backward moralism?

As far as 16 year olds using meth and having promiscuous "gay" sex, there are many things that could be done.

1. Allow parents to control and discipline their children.

2. Get the homosexual promoters out of the schools.

3. Have stronger punishments for meth and other dangerous drug use - the best would be public caning. (The county DA agrees with me on this one - off the record. He says nothing else will work.)

4. Death punishment for meth dealers. This will help a lot. (And my views on marijuana I've posted before - let everyone who wants to smoke it, grow it. Just no selling, that'll get rid of the multiple-drug dealers. Grow it for personal use only.)

5. Execution for child molesters. Since many homosexuals were molested, and since all child molesters continue to molest (generally speaking) this will help curtail the number of new homosexuals.

6. Close all bathhouses and other facilities where homosexuals congregate to have promiscuous sex.

7. Have REAL "safe sex" education - and it needn't be gov't funded. Plenty of churches and private organizations and individuals will be happy to fill the gap.

How's that for a start?
39 posted on 04/18/2004 5:10:52 PM PDT by little jeremiah (...men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
Every time I read one of these articles I literally get the chills. Most of the people in this article are so young, and they are absolutely ruining their lives.

Taking meth and sleeping with countless partners in one evening, with or without condoms is sick and dangerous. They must have a death wish. It is also utterly sad and depressing.

There are so many healthier pursuits they could be following, and instead they are ruining themselves.

People like the young men in the article need our prayers, BIGTIME.

40 posted on 04/18/2004 5:14:32 PM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH (A vote for president Bush IS a vote for principle.)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
It is ridiculous that all male bathhouses are legal (in any age) but particularly with the advent of AIDS. They are helping to promote the spread of the disease and consequently death. I have never understood this.

The legality of these bathhouses only proves the political power of homosexuals.

43 posted on 04/18/2004 5:27:45 PM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH (A vote for president Bush IS a vote for principle.)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
God has refrained from the simple solution to the underlying problem because of the collateral damage that would result


44 posted on 04/18/2004 5:32:13 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
'Gift' of potentially lethal sex is linked to rise in HIV cases

Acting Up

Bug Chasers: The men who long to be HIV+

A Compassionate Society Should Discourage Deadly Homosexual Behavior

45 posted on 04/18/2004 5:38:45 PM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: TOUGH STOUGH
There are so many healthier pursuits they could be following, and instead they are ruining themselves.

If sensate culture is what the society and media are pushing 24/7, what else can you expect?

46 posted on 04/18/2004 5:41:26 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
A methamphetamine user since he was 16, Smith spent years having anonymous, unprotected sex while high.

After medical tests, counselors told him he had contracted HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.

He believes he contracted the disease while having sex with strangers while on meth.

Hmm, Smith spent years having unprotected sex. Now he's been diagnosed with HIV. Smith believes he may have contracted the disease while having all that unprotected sex with strangers over the years. I think Smith's belief is correct.

47 posted on 04/18/2004 5:51:40 PM PDT by usadave
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To: little jeremiah
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48 posted on 04/18/2004 6:06:12 PM PDT by EdReform
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
The drug can be snorted, injected, swallowed and smoked, and some gay men insert it anally.

_____________________________________ What is it with the buttholes?
49 posted on 04/18/2004 6:38:36 PM PDT by oceanperch (King Vanity Parking Only all others will be towed)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
I think we have crossed paths on this subject before.

I left Cali coming up on 15yrs ago one reason what I saw real meth do to so many.

This crap they make up here in the PNW is not true medical meth. Cold pills and liqued gas of some sort, ferterlizer and some other wonderful poisens.

It has now hit my quiet little coastal town in Oregon. Thievery gone wild. Cops do a great job cleaning up the varment.

My take on the stuff is it leaves one in a souless psychotic state after binging and demons overtake that body as it is vacant.

I don't even want to imagine meth fueled sodomites. If loose gay men do not see any sexual boundries when sober my God what does adding meth to their perverted minds do?

I would HATE having to live next to tweekers my sympathies to you.

50 posted on 04/18/2004 6:52:21 PM PDT by oceanperch (King Vanity Parking Only all others will be towed)
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