Meth abuse elevates HIV crisis for gays

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 04/17/04 | CAMERON McWHIRTER, JILL YOUNG MILLER

[Kozak]

Yippeeee, we've got tweekers for neighbors!

Keep your eyes peeled for Red Devil Lye, cold meds and ammonia cleaner in his trash. Meth labs go boom.

[oceanperch]

Amen Meth is the worst of the worst.

And the crap the home labs are making now a days isn't even like the Crystal Meth from the 70's-80's that was more medically chemically formulated.

The crap out there now is literally pure poison.

The latest tweeker, he fell last summer to it, I have come across came to me asking me to Pray with him as he was seeing Demons all around. He couldn't understand why I could not see them. He is no longer welcomed in my neighborhood and is currently in Jail. The woman he was cranking with let him remodel her home. The Police officer that arrested him told me the remodel job looked more like a demolition team hit the place.

Walls, windows and floors gone.

I don't bud into others biz unless meth is involved. If you are using don't come around me cause rat you and your supplier out in a NY second!

[RichInOC]

Methamphetamine has been abused in the United States for decades, especially on the West Coast. The drug can be snorted, injected, swallowed and smoked, and some gay men insert it anally...

...making it easier for the meth to bypass the circulatory system entirely and be absorbed directly by the subject's brain.

Good Lord, this sounds like some utterly devolved Skoal ad--"Just a pinch between yer cheek 'n' yer other cheek...."

Just one question, though...would this work with rock cocaine?

[RichInOC]

I pose that question rhetorically, I hasten to add.

[oceanperch]

Poor victems. Aids is not funny and is horrible. But this lack of control pro promiscious gays and hetro druggies is not a society problem. It is a personal problem.

You reap what you sow. I expect to work untill the day I die because of financial choices I have made, I chose to take low pay to be a careprovider for my son for life. I will not be eligble for any retirement programs and it is up to me to put money away which I am getting better at but far from ever financially retiring. I will deal with it.

If someone chooses to poke a poop hole and eat feces they should expect at the very least hepatitis. Ever wonder why we are taught to wash our hands after going to the restroom, hepatitis.

Yet some people enjoy our human waste hole as a sexual pleasure.

I read where black men on a certain colledge campus do not consider themselves gay but will poke another mans rear just to have an orgasm and wallah VD is now rampant there.

We are even taught as kids not to share brushes to stop the spread of lice.

Maybe some old fashion health practices are not so old.

[expatguy]

Do we have any Log Packing Republicans on this thread?

[oceanperch]

WHich makes me think who foots the bill in the ER when these ditzy idiots show up bleeding annally or think it's funny because they have objects stuck up their rears. No shame seems to go along with these political sexual deviants.

Up here in the PNW a sister just put out the word through the media that her brother was a child molester and just released from jail and he intends on continueing harming kids.

This helped as they got him a viewer saw him in a laundry mat and low and behold he was living in a rental moving van inside was child pornography and a bare mattress.

The mattress is being sent to a lab for DNA samples and the media is urging all who have been harmed by this monster to come forward.

While in jail he admitted in an interview that he molested more that 200 children.

The Gay movement is moving right towards supporting child molestation in the name of LOVE. Mark my word.

We see it happening already.

[philman_36]

Poor victems.
I don't consider such people as victims. A victim is usually someone that is subjected to, not by, someone else's actions such as rape, robbery, assault...
People such as those spoken of in this article have taken actions all on their own. Nobody forces them to do what they do.
Aids is not funny and is horrible.
Have I said that it was funny? Have I said that it isn't horrible?
But this lack of control pro promiscious gays and hetro druggies is not a society problem. It is a personal problem.
There are a whole bunch of pro-Woddies right here at FR that would disagree with you. They fully believe that drug use is very much a societal problem.
Isn't it rather humorous what is and isn't considered "a problem" that needs to be addressed these days...

[oceanperch]

Regarding poor victems didn't put up the sarcasm sign.

I think if someones social/moral behavior gets them in deep doo doo we should not have to bail them out.

Knowing allot of parents of severely and I mean severly disabled kids and being a careprovider/parent myself our kids needs are never addresses it's always other social needs likes drunks who need welfare and housing or some bimbo making babies and not taking responsibility for them nor the whom ever the dads are.

More and more social problems and the truly needy in society keep getting pushed back to the end of the line.

It's a personal thing with me. My son wanted to look into independant living and the resource place was over run with stinken drunks and thos
e who are transients with able bodies.

Like I said it's a personal thing. Somebody chooses to live a wild sex life then needs help due to repercussions of a choice yeah that ticks me off.

When I know hard working families and retired families with physically and mentally severly disabled kids that are now adults and they can't even get a night away aka a little respite to give them a break for caring for their kids. WHich they have committed their life in doing but are worried sick about dying as there is no place for the adult severly disabled to go.

[oceanperch]

LOL Another fallicy IMO. Just like the Lesbian Preacher BS.

Log Cabin sheesh it brings to mind what the boys in childhood use to say to gross us out. I did a real logger in the toilet. That's what comes to mind when I hear Log Cabin Repubs.

[chronic_loser]

Well, stating it is not "true medical meth" is silly. Crystal is easy as hell to cook up. We used to do it with Vicks nasal inhalers back b4 they pulled the pseudo from them. You need some lithium batteries, some anhydrous amonia, some tincture of iodine, and some coffee filters and something to extract with (ether works). Cook it (I don't want to post how, but there are recipes all over the web). You get pretty close to "pure" meth. Laboratory grade meth and bathtub crank are very close.

I was never a hardcore tweeker, but had a passionate love affair with all kinds of drugs almost 30 years ago. We used the stuff frequently. I still remember the recipe now.

It took me 4 years and memorizing most of the books of Ephesians, Philippians, and big sections of the New Testament (part of it was just the mental discipline of concentration, part of it was the cleansing effect on my soul...., but that is another story) just to be able to frame a coherent dialogue.

It is not so much that "speed kills" but but that a soulless society is going to fill the void with SOMETHING, be it hi risk sex (not my history), drug euphoria, or crass materialism. In the end, they are all death, they just dress up in different clothes.

[The kings dead]

a soulless society is going to fill the void with SOMETHING, be it hi risk sex (not my history), drug euphoria, or crass materialism.

And once liberals ban the third and alleged "conservatives" ban the first two, I guess we'll have nothing left to do but find God. </sarcasm>

[dfwgator]

The fool was buggering when he was straight too!

The term "straight" is the last word I would use for this guy.

[John O]

Check out Matthew 7:1-5 if you want something to look forward to..

Antiguv, Cherry wasn't judging anyone. She was simply stating what God has already said. Sodomites will burn in the lake of fire. They will receive in their bodies the "recompence of their error"

Agreeing with God is not judgemental. And if it is then it's definately the right side of the judgement to be on

My prayer for the sodomites has been the same for a long time. That God would save them and change them, or kill them before they drag others into hell with them.

Sometimes doing the most for God's kingdom does include killing His enemies. Who is worth more, one sodomite or the 400-500 kids he may drag into hell with him (by molesting/influencing them to become sodomites themselves)? Seems that removing him from this place now saves 400-500 souls. Of course it's God's place to arrange these things but we are not prohibited from cheering God on.

[philman_36]

The fool was buggering when he was straight too!
The term "straight" is the last word I would use for this guy.
You are so correct. The fool was buggering when he was sober too!
How's that?

[TOUGH STOUGH]

No bar I ever frequented ever gave out condoms to its clientele.

Bathouses have been around for along time. Sociologists have done studies about them, and from what I have read, unless they have changed, they are NOT the same as pickup clubs/bars for heteros.

[Jorge]

Sociologists have done studies about them, and from what I have read, unless they have changed, they are NOT the same as pickup clubs/bars for heteros.

No they're not the same. They are far more extreme when it comes to promiscous activity which takes place right on the premises.

Most pickup clubs/bars for heteros don't allow this..unless of course they're attached to a cheap hotel with hourly rental rates allowing for quickies with pickups. I know of some that are.