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Document: Oklahoma City Bombing Was Taped
AP via Yahoo! ^ | April 19, 2004 | John Solomon

Posted on 04/19/2004 1:23:06 PM PDT by RippleFire

WASHINGTON - A Secret Service document written shortly after the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing described security video footage of the attack and witness testimony that suggested Timothy McVeigh (news - web sites) may have had accomplices at the scene.

"Security video tapes from the area show the truck detonation 3 minutes and 6 seconds after the suspects exited the truck," the Secret Service reported six days after the attack on a log of agents' activities and evidence in the Oklahoma investigation.

The government has insisted McVeigh drove the truck himself and that it never had any video of the bombing or the scene of the Alfred P. Murrah building in the minutes before the April 19, 1995, explosion.

Several investigators and prosecutors who worked the case told The Associated Press they had never seen video footage like that described in the Secret Service log.

The document, if accurate, is either significant evidence kept secret for nine years or a misconstrued recounting of investigative leads that were often passed by word of mouth during the hectic early days of the case, they said.

"I did not see it," said Danny Defenbaugh, the retired FBI (news - web sites) agent who ran the Oklahoma City probe. "If it shows what it says, then it would be significant."

Secret Service spokesman Charles Bopp declined to discuss the video footage reference, saying it would be addressed by witnesses later this week at the capital murder trial of McVeigh co-defendant Terry Nichols. "It is anticipated Secret Service employees will testify in court concerning these matters," he said.

Other documents obtained by AP show the Secret Service in late 1995 gave prosecutors several computer disks of enhanced digital photographs of the Murrah building, intelligence files on several subjects in the investigation and a file detailing an internal affairs inquiry concerning an agent who reconstructed key phone evidence against McVeigh.

"These abstract sheets are sensitive documents which we have protected from disclosure in the past," said a Secret Service letter that recounted discussions in late 1995 with federal prosecutors on what evidence would be turned over to defense lawyers.

Lawyers for Nichols say they have never been given the security video, photo disks or internal investigative file referenced in the documents.

The trial judge has threatened to dismiss the death penalty case if evidence was withheld. McVeigh was executed in 2001 on a separate federal conviction. Nichols was sentenced to life in prison on federal charges before being tried by the state this year.

The government has maintained for years that McVeigh parked the Ryder rental truck carrying a massive fertilizer bomb outside the Murrah building and left alone in a getaway car he parked around the corner. The bombing killed more than 160 people.

The only video prosecutors introduced at trial showed the Ryder truck without any visible passengers as it passed a security camera inside a high-rise apartment building a block away from the Murrah building.

But the Secret Service log reported on April 24 and April 25, 1995, that there was security footage showing the Ryder truck pulling up to the Murrah building. The log does not say where such video came from or who possessed it.

A log entry on April 25 states that the security footage allowed agents to determine the time that elapsed between suspects leaving the truck and the explosion.

An entry a day earlier on the same log reported that the security video was consistent with a witness' account that he saw McVeigh's getaway car in the lead before a woman guided the truck to its final parking spot in front of the Murrah building.

"A witness to the explosion named Grossman claimed to have seen a pale yellow Mercury car with a Ryder truck behind it pulling up to the federal building," the log said. The witness "further claimed to have seen a woman on the corner waving to the truck."

A Secret Service agent named McNally "noted that this fact is significant due to the fact that the security video shows the Ryder truck pulling up to the Federal Building and then pausing (7 to 10 seconds) before resuming into the slot in front of the building," the log said. "It is speculated that the woman was signaling the truck when a slot became available."

Defenbaugh said the FBI had talked to several witnesses suggesting two people had left the truck, but prosecutors never introduced the scenario at trial because it couldn't be corroborated. That's why a new security video would be significant, he said.

"It would have taken the investigation in a very specific direction," Defenbaugh said. "Rather than having to go down an eight-lane highway during rush hour, we would have gone down a faster path with just two or four lanes."

Defenbaugh said the FBI kept a log similar to the Secret Service document inside the Oklahoma City investigation command center that might help solve the mystery of the video. Justice officials declined to discuss documents, citing the ongoing Nichols' trial.

In addition to the witness mentioned in the Secret Service document, a woman working in Murrah's Social Security (news - web sites) office who was rescued from the rubble and a driver outside the building both reported to the FBI seeing two men leave the truck, according to government documents.

The Secret Service (news - web sites) log contained other information about the case — including that McVeigh made 30 calls to an Illinois gun dealer in the months before the attacks to seek dynamite and that the gun dealer subsequently failed a lie detector test. The Secret Service lost six employees in McVeigh's bombing, the single largest loss in agency history.

Nichols' attorneys last week asked the judge to dismiss the case on grounds the government withheld evidence, including the security video footage.

New documents obtained by AP show the Secret Service provided prosecutors other evidence that may not have been provided to defense lawyers, including a file showing the Secret Service agent who reconstructed crucial phone evidence against McVeigh was subjected to an internal affairs investigation and eventually cleared for her conduct in the case.

FBI officials say that file details allegations the agent wrongly collected grand jury-subpoenaed phone information about McVeigh's calls without FBI knowledge, and kept it for weeks while she produced analysis that helped the investigation.

The internal investigation caused complications for prosecutors. They decided it tainted the agent as a witness and they chose instead to hire an outside expert to re-do the phone analysis for trial, officials said.

Bopp said the Secret Service did nothing wrong.

"The Secret Service worked cooperatively with the FBI and other federal state and local law enforcement throughout the investigation," Bopp said. "The expertise of the Secret Service on electronic crimes and telecommunications provided unique and timely information to the ongoing investigation."

On the Net:

The FBI: http://www.fbi.gov

The documents obtained by The Associated Press can be viewed at http://wid.ap.org/documents/okc/okcdoc2.pdf


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To: archy; ovrtaxt
Likewise!!!!
261 posted on 04/19/2004 7:19:39 PM PDT by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: 1066AD
During the Carter time. Surprise !

That's what I thought .. Thanks

Eric Holder was on FNC tonight and kept saying the "wall" was there back in the Reagan and Bush41 administrations .. but never once mentioned it was Carter the put the damn thing there

262 posted on 04/19/2004 7:20:09 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: Sender
Great work on "The Letter". Needs to be recorded.
263 posted on 04/19/2004 7:23:14 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: TonyInOhio
Sorry, I meant 3-6 pm PDT

But .. you knew that .. right ..??
264 posted on 04/19/2004 7:25:22 PM PDT by CyberAnt (The 2004 Election is for the SOUL of AMERICA)
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To: Diogenesis
Your linked data certainly fuels my paranoia that clinton and his goon squad covered up the truthg regarding OKC Murrah Bidg, in order to avoid controversial confrontation with Iraq and Saddam. Nothing I've seen since OKC has divested me of that suspicion, and now you've linked Jamie Gorlick and Reno to the cover up. Clinton deserves a short trip at the end of an even shorter rope.
265 posted on 04/19/2004 7:30:14 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Destro
I hope the right people read your book.

Some are, but more would be better.


266 posted on 04/19/2004 7:41:37 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Truth666
Yada Yada yada!!

Whatever...
267 posted on 04/19/2004 7:45:39 PM PDT by StarCMC (Kalen is home!!! Kalen is home!!! Thank you for all your prayers and support!!)
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To: CyberAnt
I also believe that Gorelick had her fingers in so many pies, which are now being exposed, her presence is going to cause the commission to totally lose all credibility.

I just hope the Gorelick affair is not buried as most other Clinton Administration mischief has been. Keen seems hellbent to shield her. Do you think it will be different this time?

Brit was talking about this today - and all his panel agreed that unless Gorelick is removed - the report is worthless.

Were there any liberals on the panel?

So, I agree that planting Gorelick on this panel has backfired and tainted the commission beyond repair.

Agree. It's FUBAR.

Gorelick absolutely needs to testify under oath and under critical questioning.

This commission is so conflicted that I'm not sure they should be the ones to question her.

268 posted on 04/19/2004 7:45:59 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Sender
Looks like Ashcroft done kicked a hornet's nest. Maybe now we'll see what caused this whole mess, Cuz soon she will be gone, Jamie's going home, the Chairman he wrote her a letter. The Chairman, he wrote her a letter...

That's just it. Why does this story have to leak out now. The Bush administration presumably would have an interest in sharing the truth. If there really was a John Doe No. 3 and an Islamic connection (as I think there was), then why can't the relevant documents be declassified all at once?

And why did Ashcroft rush to execute McVeigh? I don't understand that part at all.

269 posted on 04/19/2004 7:46:27 PM PDT by Piranha
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To: gwjack
Again, why do we need a special commission? If there is additional information, why doesn't the Bush Administration, which should have no axe to grind, re-investigate by itself?
270 posted on 04/19/2004 7:49:10 PM PDT by Piranha
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To: dcwusmc
you're in.
271 posted on 04/19/2004 7:49:19 PM PDT by ovrtaxt ( Communism has bowed the knee to Jesus. *** Allah is next.)
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To: b4its2late
"But they zapped him fairly quickly compared to others in a similar situation......that is, death row."

After the first Appeals Court upheld Tim McVeigh's conviction, Tim McVeigh himself said no more appeals. He was ready to die. That is why it went so fast.

Most criminals draw their sentences out with appeals after appeals. I am not sure how many a person is intitled to but it is quite a few.

272 posted on 04/19/2004 7:49:44 PM PDT by Spunky (This little tag just keeps following me where ever I go.)
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To: Ciexyz
half the posters threw rocks at the posters, saying "tin foil hats".

I would have been one of those throwing rocks, early on, but over the last 2 years, I have been becoming more and more skeptical. Now, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see an Iraq/Saddam/AlQuada connection and to see that Clinton deliberately looked away.

My question is why? Why did Clinton support the muslims in Bosnia and if he did cover up OKC, why? He isn't Islamic. Does he really deep down hate Christians and Jews? What is the left's motivation? Anarchy?

273 posted on 04/19/2004 7:50:05 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (never surrender, this is for the kids)
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To: isthisnickcool
"But Timothy McVeigh was executed in what I think was a very short period of time. When there were still many many unanswered questions. It makes no sense."

Read my posting at #272.

274 posted on 04/19/2004 7:52:55 PM PDT by Spunky (This little tag just keeps following me where ever I go.)
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To: archy
"Easy enough to determine. Interrogate the OKC police officer first on the scene. Officer Yeakey? Terry Yeakey?

Lets put him on the stand, under oath, and see what he has to say...."

For those of you who don't know, Officer Yeakey died under suspicious circumstances. Ex-Freeper Honway started this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/618176/posts
275 posted on 04/19/2004 7:52:57 PM PDT by Tymesup
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To: antivenom
Wildfires!?
276 posted on 04/19/2004 7:53:18 PM PDT by Piranha
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To: Ken H
We need to change her name to Gore-relic
277 posted on 04/19/2004 7:55:03 PM PDT by Ethyl
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To: TonyInOhio
It makes sense to me John Doe #2 was an Iraqi. Wasn't one of McVeigh's zenith's about "collatarel damage" in Gulf War I.
278 posted on 04/19/2004 7:56:03 PM PDT by not-an-ostrich
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To: Piranha
"And why did Ashcroft rush to execute McVeigh? I don't understand that part at all."

See my posting at #272.

There was nothing left to do but execute him.

279 posted on 04/19/2004 8:00:33 PM PDT by Spunky (This little tag just keeps following me where ever I go.)
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To: ovrtaxt
Is there a link to McVeigh's manifesto?
280 posted on 04/19/2004 8:02:12 PM PDT by Piranha
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