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TERRI SCHINDLER-SCHIAVO DAILY THREADAPRIL 19, 2004 FORWARD
April 19, 2004 | floriduh voter

Posted on 04/19/2004 2:05:56 PM PDT by floriduh voter

Persistent and Loyal Friends of Terri and of the U.S. Constitution,

I'm home from today's hearing which was held at the Criminal Courthouse Complex on 49th Street, Clearwater before Judge W. Douglas Baird.

Once I collect my thoughts from today's hearing which just adjourned about a half an hour ago, I'll post them here. Initially, I wasn't going to do any reporting re: the hearing but it was enlightening.

I learned today in the hallway that Terri's parents, siblings and other relatives are still unable to see her some three weeks later due to the criminal investigation of what may have been mosquito bites. But, that's a different legal matter.


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Please ping your lists and I'll be back soon with a summary of today's hearing.

The bottom line is that "the burden of proof is on George Felos to show that Terri's Law was unconstitutional." As per Jeb's counsel, Felos would need to produce mountains of evidence to surpass that hurdle. Be back soon. floriduh voter

1 posted on 04/19/2004 2:05:57 PM PDT by floriduh voter
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To: cyn; pc93; FL_engineer; sweetliberty; kimmie7; NYer; nickcarraway; JulieRNR21; MeekOneGOP; ...
Ping...please help start this new Terri thread.

I'm eating a whopper jr & fries. I promise I'll be back with my thoughts on today's hearing.

It was fairly simple but for the fact that George Felos' babbling gave me a headache. lol

Admin moderator, this will be sourced to my web site but it's going here first to expedite getting this out for grassroots application that is already in place at Free Republic. See tag line. I'd appreciate that this be kept in news/activism such as it is. Thank you very much. floriduh voter

2 posted on 04/19/2004 2:13:07 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org/)
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To: cyn; pc93; FL_engineer; sweetliberty; kimmie7; NYer; nickcarraway; JulieRNR21; MeekOneGOP; ...
Ping...please help start this new Terri thread.

I'm eating a whopper jr & fries. I promise I'll be back with my thoughts on today's hearing.

It was fairly simple but for the fact that George Felos' babbling gave me a headache. lol

Admin moderator, this will be sourced to my web site but it's going here first to expedite getting this out for grassroots application that is already in place at Free Republic. See tag line. I'd appreciate that this be kept in news/activism such as it is. Thank you very much. floriduh voter

3 posted on 04/19/2004 2:13:43 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org/)
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To: All
Sorry for the duplicate post.
4 posted on 04/19/2004 2:14:49 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org/)
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To: floriduh voter
SO WHAT HAPPENED/////////!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
5 posted on 04/19/2004 2:24:43 PM PDT by yesnettv (We need to decide to save Terri's life. I did.)
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To: floriduh voter
yOU ARE EATING AT A TIME LIKE THIS?????????????
6 posted on 04/19/2004 2:26:40 PM PDT by yesnettv (We need to decide to save Terri's life. I did.)
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To: floriduh voter; Chocolate Rose; Pegita; Robert Drobot; Ethan_Allen
PING
7 posted on 04/19/2004 2:32:20 PM PDT by cyn (http://www.terrisfight.com)
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To: cyn; GWB and GOP Man; phenn
REPORT ON APRIL 19, 2004 HEARING 3:00 p.m.

It was a long afternoon. I didn't get word re: the location of the hearing so I drove downtown, talked to the civil records clerk, some bailiffs and someone in the administrative office who was kind enough to call Judge Baird's office for me to find out when and where today's hearing was. Before I sped to the 49th St. Complex, I notified the bailiff in downtown Clearwater to direct others to Room 2 of the 49th St. Complex. ALL THIS IN HEELS.

I arrived at the Criminal Courthouse Complex on 49th Street which appears to be a much smaller building from the outside.

The marble hallways went on forever but I located Judge Baird's Courtroom and watched counsel arrive. Michael Schiavo was not in attendance. ATTY GEORGE FELOS, DEBRA BUSHNELL and also an ACLU Attorney for the west coast of Florida was sitting at the heartless table.

ATTORNEY KEN CONNOR and his assistant came all the way from Virginia to represent Governor Bush. They were kind of surprised by the warm temps, even in the a.c. Other Terri supporterss started to arrive as did the local news media but I can't recall exactly what the news media was doing because only one person had a camera. The other news crews in polo shirts were sitting in the back where we sat.

Judge Baird asked us to stand and then told us to be seated. I aced that portion of the hearing.

FIRST UP: GEORGE FELOS who wanted Judge Baird to approve MICHAEL SCHIAVO'S MOTION FOR PROTECTIVE ORDER which would prevent Jeb from taking any depositions or discovery. And, GEORGE FELOS also wanted Judge Baird to simply do a Summary Judgment which would for all purposes DISMISS Terri's Law and end Schiavo v. Bush lawsuit. (his droning voice did give me a headache - it reminded me of the canned voices at theme parks that tell you when to get on and off rides). His sentences were crafted, and I do mean crafted like an old crazy quilt.

NEXT UP: KEN CONNOR, GOV. BUSH'S ATTORNEY: Ken Connor was taller than George Felos and in addition, he had the recent reversal of the 2nd DCA to base his arguments upon. The point of the 2nd DCA reversing was not so that a Judge could do a summary judgment but so that there would be a resolution between the parties. Ken Connor mentioned that he had DOZENS or numerous Affidavits sent to him that supported Governor Bush's position and that Felos would have an insurmountable hurdle to prove that Terri's Law is unconstitutional since it originated in the Legislature before Gov. Bush signed it into law. Governor Bush RETAINS the right as Terri's proxy to do discovery and to take depositions. Ken Connor made sense.

GEORGE FELOS TRIES AGAIN: What does Felos pull out of the hat? That Senator Jim King said he was "hoodwinked" into signing Terri's Law. KEN CONNOR: Objected as hearsay and not admissable. GEORGE FELOS was running out of steam at this point and made the same points that he apparently made at the last hearing about a motion for protective order according to a portion of Ken Connor's remarks to the Court.

That was basically it. JUDGE BAIRD said that he would review the proceedings and put something in writing... The Orders usually come down by fax to the parties.

Terri's supporters stood around after the hearing in the marble hallway and I thanked Ken Connor for coming. He's a good man, folks.

Pls excuse the "s" typos above. (can't see them at the moment to correct). FV

8 posted on 04/19/2004 2:39:54 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org/)
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To: yesnettv
Come back and read my account. I only took three burger bites.

Guess who had "water" at counsel's table and took a swig? George Felos.

9 posted on 04/19/2004 2:41:08 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org/)
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To: russesjunjee
Ping re: today's Terri hearing.
10 posted on 04/19/2004 2:42:30 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org/)
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To: FL_engineer; cyn; FR_addict; windchime; Budge; Deo volente; nicmarlo; Ohioan from Florida; ...
Pinging

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1120621/posts?page=1#1
11 posted on 04/19/2004 2:43:56 PM PDT by pc93 (Please visit http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/terri_schindler_life_ribbon_campaign.htm)
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Please ping your freepers.
12 posted on 04/19/2004 2:45:02 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org/)
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GEORGE FELOS TRIES AGAIN: What does Felos pull out of the hat? That Senator Jim King said he was "hoodwinked" into signing Terri's Law.

Jim King? Hoodwinked? By his constituents and other concerned FL citizens?

Oh, that is rich.

13 posted on 04/19/2004 2:45:57 PM PDT by cyn (http://www.terrisfight.com)
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ping
14 posted on 04/19/2004 2:48:55 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: floriduh voter
thanks so much for posting that, fv. I can see why you might have a headache now after that. THANKS for being there in court.

I posted a "ping" link here from the other thread.

15 posted on 04/19/2004 2:49:02 PM PDT by cyn (http://www.terrisfight.com)
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To: cyn
We should undo Terri's Law because Jim King erred on the side of life? I don't think so.
16 posted on 04/19/2004 2:49:39 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org/)
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To: cyn
We should undo Terri's Law because Jim King erred on the side of life? I don't think so.
17 posted on 04/19/2004 2:49:56 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org/)
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To: cyn
I don't know why I'm double posting but bttt.
18 posted on 04/19/2004 2:50:56 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org/)
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To: floriduh voter; tutstar
hoodwinked . . . poor, poor widdle baby.

What a BABY! No, that's not it, that gives babies a bad name . . .
19 posted on 04/19/2004 2:53:07 PM PDT by cyn (http://www.terrisfight.com)
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To: amdgmary
Terri hearing ping.
20 posted on 04/19/2004 2:55:32 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org/)
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