Hamtramck, Mich., Split Over Muslim Chant

1010 WINS New York ^ | April 19, 2004 | SARAH KARUSH, Associated Press Writer

[Maria S]

"Sautee them with butter and onions and fresh ground pepper and salt. Lots of people like them with sour cream afterwards..."


Good grief! Just open a can of Crisco and slap directly on the thighs and butt...skip the middleman!!

P.S. A wonderful picture of a turbulent ocean on your personal page!!

[Gritty]

I suppose, as laid out in the Koran, this means Hamtramck is now an official part of the House Of Islam, and can never be allowed to be a part of the Infidel World (House Of War) again?

"Peace" now settles upon Hamtramck....

[Psycho_Bunny]

How the f$%# is this even an issue?

The answer is NO.

 

[LurkedLongEnough]

God, you're missing out. If they're fresh (the only way to eat them) you don't need to boil them. Sautee them with butter and onions...

I've never heard of this type of treatment for Muslims. It doesn't sound Constitutional to me.

[Diva Betsy Ross]

it is pronounced HAM-TRAM-ICK.... You are right in your assessment.. I have been there. ;]

[FourPeas]

I think you're on to something.

[henderson field]

A simple case of cultural pollution. If they want to come here and suck the money, the least they can do is convert to Protestantism. If not, they are only provisional Americans. But you knew that.

[henderson field]

Too bad the Polish have gone Politically Correct. If I were to go down the street playing "Amazing Grace" at 200 decibels, you can bet I would be shut down pronto. But since they're muslims and since diversity is so good so us, that's OK.

[sarasmom]

"Reinstitute the draft for EVERYONE living in our great country."

Not hardly!
It was hard enough during the Cold War, and who knows how much harder it was during Gulf War 1,and the little "problem" in the Balkins, to have to deal with liberal idiots who had no clue, and even when given the funds to do so, were unable to rent one.
No, the all volunteer force is the better way to go,and the standards must be slightly adjusted to route out the "I'm just here because I couldnt get a full scholarship" opportunists.
I will never advocate for a military draft, since I still remember quite clearly advising a few select people under my command (off the record of course) that if the balloon went up, and I caught them within five miles of any of my pilots...well, there are a few worse things than a couple of months in federal prison for going AWOL./... ;^)
It is a good thing for troop morale, that the enlistment standards have been raised, and fewer flaming brain-dead idiots have the chance to don a military uniform.
Ignorance can be easily corrected by factual knowledge, but stupidity is incurable.
Lots of people need to grow up and face reality, but I wouldnt want them anywhere near my pilots during a wartime mission, and I highly doubt any Army or Marine ground forces in Afghanistan or Iraq are very interested in "building personal character" in the middle of a war zone.
Just my humble opinion.

[Elsie]

And some folks think ChristiANity is weird!

As-salaam-u-alaikum. My question concerns the practices in Salaat. It consists of numerous subquestions, therefore please read the details below. Jazakallahu-khair.

1) Which is the correct way to count the Tasbeeh on your fingers?

2) When should you read Tasbeeh in Salaat (i.e. after the Fard or at the end)?

3) Do you have to say things in multiples of eleven (e.g. Alhamdullilah 33 times)?

4) I've noticed that people sometimes blow or kiss their fingers and rub their eyes 3 times when they complete the Tasbeeh. Is this bid'at? What should be done?

5) After the Fard salaat, the Imaam reads Fateha. Should he sit facing the Qiblah or turn towards the right when doing so? Should he read Tasbeeh before making fateha (Refer question 2)?

6) Finally, I've heard that it is Sunnah to rub the hands over the face when completing fateha. Should you also kiss your fingers when this action is completed?

Answer 4394

2001-12-15

Rasulullah (SAW) emphasised on reciting Tasbeeh-e-Fatima, Subhanallah,
Alhamdolillah and Allahu-Akbar after each farz salaah. According to one
narration each of the three zikrs should be recited 33times and be completed
by reciting the first kalima. That makes it 100. The zikr may be made
immediately after the farz salaah or after making dua.(Fateha). The numbers
may be counted in any way comfortable to an individual. There is no specific
way to do so. The zikrs may be counted on the fingers or by using tasbeeh
beads or a counter.
Fateha (dua) after farz salaah is encouraged by Rasulullah(SAW). The dua
may be made individulally or in congregation. It is not correct to insist on
any one way.
To wipe the face after making dua is proven in the hadith. To kiss the hands
and eyes is not proven in the hadith.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai
FATWA DEPT.

[dakine]

making me hungry....

[OXENinFLA]

1ST they just wanted to announce their prayer, next they'll want us RECITE it with them(or die).

[verity]

Mecca, Medina, and Michigan!

[Iron Matron]

If I were to go down the street playing "Amazing Grace" at 200 decibels, you can bet I would be shut down pronto. But since they're muslims and since diversity is so good so us, that's OK.

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B. S.! WE ARE "THE PEOPLE". I, for one, WILL NOT stand by while special privileges are given to the socialists-dems new "oppressed group of voters".

I am going to stand up for whats RIGHT. We all should. If that takes giving them a bit of their "own medicine" SO BE IT!

[Iron Matron]

Matron: I'm with you!


Thanks. There are more of "us" than liberals understand right now. No matter WHO becomes president, or WHAT unconstitutional laws are passed, WE THE PEOPLE will take care of our FREEDOM and our country!

[bk1000]

If the local people allow this to happen they deserve what they get. Let this be a lesson to all of us.

[LurkedLongEnough]

Not sure about this, but the prayer times differ every day, by astromomical observation as verified by some authority figure, depending on latitude and longitude. Anyone know?

I believe that they also prefer to use compasses to orient toward Mecca for prayers. This even applies when they are on a long plane flight, I've heard they have to get out into the aisle and find Mecca somehow. Laser beam?