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Diaperless Babies Seen As Earth-Friendly Solution
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 4/22/04 | Marc Morano

Posted on 04/22/2004 2:57:07 AM PDT by kattracks

(CNSNews.com) - As environmentalists celebrate the 34th annual Earth Day, some in the green movement are now advocating "diaper-free" babies to help save the planet.

Citing concerns about plastic disposable diapers clogging landfills and the amount of washing and detergents that cloth diapers require, many environmentalists are taking a page from tribal cultures and seeking to eliminate the use of the baby diapers altogether.

The green movement is now promoting diaperless babies as a "retro, cutting-edge, environmentally friendly scheme" to mothers throughout the industrialized world.

The green movement already has declared war on the modern flush toilet, declaring it an "environmental disaster," and has instead pushed waterless "dry" toilets as an earth-friendly solution.

Former Vice President Al Gore joined the board of a waterless urinal company late last year to further the dry toilet cause and to help avert what many environmentalists believe is a looming international water crisis.

"There is a way to have a baby and NOT use diapers," says one website advocating diaperless babies. Parents are urged to get in tune with their infant's body signals and hold babies over toilets, buckets and shrubbery or any other convenient receptacle when nature calls.

One advocate suggests bringing a "tight-lidded bucket" along to serve as a waste receptacle when mothers take their babies out in public.

'Primitive worship'


But Robert Bidinotto, publisher of ecoNOT.com and a critic of environmentalists, dismisses such notions as "primitive-worship."

"Incredibly, some environmentalists actually prefer that the foul messes we normally capture in diapers and landfills, spill instead onto our linoleum, carpets, and even our children," Bidinotto told CNSNews.com.

Noting many greens' opposition to flush toilets and now baby diapers, Bidinotto said environmentalists' have a "strange affinity for bodily wastes," and he believes they have become "obsessed with toilet issues."

'Be the first in your neighborhood'


Umbra Fisk, advice columnist for Grist Magazine , a major environmental e-publication, has joined the diaperless baby effort.

Responding to a reader's question in the Feb. 12 issue of Grist Magazine about how to handle baby waste in an Earth-friendly manner, Fisk fully endorses the diaper-free movement as a "retro cutting-edge environmentally friendly scheme." Fisk urges parents to "be the first in your neighborhood" to go diaper free.

"People around the world who have no access to diapers manage to raise children, and a small group of parents in diaper-rich countries have decided to follow their lead. Around here, it's called 'elimination communication' or 'diaper-free,'" Fisk wrote.

Fisk argues that changing times mean parents no longer have to change diapers.

"The concept is logical and simple: Infants give recognizable signs of imminent peeing and pooping; it's possible to learn your infant's signs; infant pee isn't frightening; and if you train your kid to ignore their outputs, you'll just have to go back and retrain them when traditional potty-training time arrives," Fisk explained.

Another diaperless baby advocate, who identifies herself as Natec, wrote a how-to manual for prospective mothers of diaperless babies titled, "Elimination Timing: The Solution to the Dirty Diapers War." The manual, which used fictionalized names and characters, describes Natec's motivation to go diaper-free after the birth of her son.

"When David was born, I started to think about the kind of world I was making for him to grow up in. The thought of garbage spewing and sprawling landfills filled me with horror. And right along with this horror were those little mother's helpers, disposable diapers...rotting, but never really going away in all their plastic glory," Natec wrote.

Natec maintains that plastic diapers "can take 500 years to decompose." Natec is not impressed with so-called "biodegradable" diapers, because they "may contain more plastic to compensate for the weakness of their materials."

Although green advocates estimate that diapers account for only between 0.5 to 1.8 percent of landfill space, they nevertheless consider that troubling.

"One percent of billions of tons is worth worrying about. If we don't think about how to address that one percent, which one percent will we address?" asked Richard Dennison, a senior scientist with the Environmental Defense group, as quoted in Natec's how-to manual.

'Evil empire of Western parenting'


Concerns about landfills are not the only reason some parents are going diaperless.

Scott Noelle, editor of the Continuum Concept website and a father, explained why he eventually stopped using diapers on his infant daughter Olivia, in a web essay titled "Going Diaperless."

"In my mind, diapers became the symbol of the Evil Empire of Western Parenting in which babies must suffer to accommodate the needs of their parents' broken-continuum culture: a controlled, sterile, odorless, wall-to-wall carpeted fortress in which to live with the illusion of dominion over nature," wrote Noelle, on the website livingharmony.com.

Despite his concerns, Noelle continued to use diapers on his daughter, despite the fact that he "felt like a monster and a fraud."

Noelle finally chose to go diaperless and looked to traditional cultures for inspiration. "How I longed for a simple, dirt-floored, baby-friendly hut like that of a Yequana family," he wrote.

Natec agrees with Noelle that modern society has a lot to learn from the traditional ways of life.

\ldblquote...[M]any of us have not, until recent years, given credit to the mothering skills of more Earth-centered, i.e. 'primitive" cultures,' she wrote in her how-to manual.

"When you think about it, there have been millions of years of human beings and only a few thousand years with any references to diapers," she added.

But Bidinotto of ecoNOT.com bristles at what he considers the glorification of a "primitive" way of life by diaperless baby advocates.

"These people have no idea what primitive life is really like. Their preferred alternative to today's 'controlled, sterile, odorless' environment is a world of filth and disease, where countless millions died in plagues and epidemics," Bidinotto explained.

Shopping with a diaperless baby


Ingrid Bauer, author of the book "Diaper Free: The Gentle Wisdom of Natural Infant Hygiene," writes on her website natural-wisdom.com that the key for parents interested in going au natural is parent-infant communication.

"Observation and close bonding interaction help the parent to understand the baby's signals, body language and timing rhythms," Bauer writes in the frequently asked questions section of her website

"Some common signals that indicate a need to pee in a young infant are: squirming, "fussing," tensing the face, frowning or having a look of "inner concentration," she wrote.

"When the baby has to go, the parent holds him or her in a comfortable position over an appropriate toilet place and makes a cueing sound (perhaps a gentle "sss")."

What's the parent of a diaperless baby to do when out shopping? Bauer offers this solution.

"These parents may rely on using public bathrooms, or bring along a container such as a tight -lidded bucket," Bauer wrote.

Bauer calls freedom from diapers "responsive infant-care."

"This gentle and ancient practice is the most common way of caring for a baby's hygiene needs in the non-Western world," she writes.

Bidinotto rejects any notion that industrialized nations should mimic the traditional cultures.

"The only thing that we moderns have to learn from primitive cultures is what they themselves learned. They learned that life is much better with modern conveniences, such as diapers. And in fact, most primitive peoples can't wait to get and use such conveniences," Bidinotto explained.

"But now environmentalists want to sentence millions to the filth and drudgery that our ancestors were so eager to escape," he added.

See Related Articles:
Flush Toilets Called 'Environmental Disaster'
Introduction of the Flush Toilet Deplored at Earth Summit


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To: kattracks
I love babies, butttt....

If the enviro-wackos think that all of us reverting to third world status is such a good idea, maybe they can lead by example and trade places with third world families, many I'm sure would welcome the 'modern' conveniences such as toilets and bathtubs and diapers, and the wackos can be safely released into the wild.

Except we all know they wouldn't last one day acting the ways they want the rest of us to act...

101 posted on 04/22/2004 6:58:09 AM PDT by fortunecookie
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To: kattracks
Okay, the enviros get tocleanup baby pee and poo whenever the tykes let loose on the furniture, car, and floor.
I also wonder just how many of the enviros promoting this have kids, and how they deal with such an unsanitary mess?
I'm willing to bet that.. da-da-da-daaah, they use diapers.
102 posted on 04/22/2004 7:03:49 AM PDT by Darksheare (Fortune for the day: "Now, do you think we have anything more than BOINNGGG?!" -dating advice movie.)
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To: AK2KX
I wouldn't mind haveing a log cabin...
...as long as it had electricity, running water, and internet connection of a good bandwidth.

The mud and thatch hut thing just wouldn't be too good around these parts, esecially in winter, or the spring torrential downpours.
Besides, even my cat cannot live without electricity.

I hate the greenies, they idolize turd wurld living as being pristine and natural without regards to basic human health and well-being.
103 posted on 04/22/2004 7:09:48 AM PDT by Darksheare (Fortune for the day: "Now, do you think we have anything more than BOINNGGG?!" -dating advice movie.)
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To: kattracks
If it is okie dokie for a toddler to poop where ever they want then why do we even need public restrooms period. When ya gotta go step over to the nearest gutter or your neighbor's yard...
104 posted on 04/22/2004 7:10:31 AM PDT by Proverbs 3-5
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To: TXBSAFH
Then cooking the seal meat over a warm glowing fire of burning tires and petroleum waste.

Absolutely! You just can't get the same type of flavor from charcoal or gas. Don't believe anyone who says different!

105 posted on 04/22/2004 7:15:07 AM PDT by johnny7 (“Virginians we will stay! Who will come with me?!” -Louis A. Armistead)
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To: kattracks
Finally! Women will be forced to stay home and watch the kids 24/7 so they can notice when the little tikes "make that face". They can have dinner ready for their men and be kept out of politics and the workforce. Uhhmmm, no, wait a minute...

I can just hear the NOW chapter carping. It's so funny when liberal ideals collide!

106 posted on 04/22/2004 7:21:54 AM PDT by amadeus
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To: kattracks; dansangel
We have these already! There called animals.
107 posted on 04/22/2004 7:22:39 AM PDT by .45MAN ("Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain..")
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To: redgolum
My thoughts exactly! If they think living in the bush is so great, let them go!! Where's the "Back to Africa" movement when you need it??
108 posted on 04/22/2004 7:24:50 AM PDT by Polyxene (Never hold discussions with the monkey when the organ grinder is in the room.- Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: kattracks
Yeah that is what I want to see little baby dropping phoo in the local market or better yet the local park. Isn't it enough I have to put up with the dogs and the land mines they leave behind(and I am a doglover just ask Kritinn about last night), but now these nuts want to add babies to the mix.
109 posted on 04/22/2004 7:29:40 AM PDT by Trueblackman (Terrorism and Liberalism never sleep and neither do I)
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To: SavageRepublican
"In celebration of Earth Day, I'm gonna go downstairs and CRAP in the middle of the lobby!!!!"

LOL!

This is a funny, if vaguely nauseating, thread. :)
110 posted on 04/22/2004 7:30:19 AM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: kattracks
"In my mind, diapers became the symbol of the Evil Empire of Western Parenting in which babies must suffer to accommodate the needs of their parents' broken-continuum culture: a controlled, sterile, odorless, wall-to-wall carpeted fortress in which to live with the illusion of dominion over nature,"

Barf me a river. A clean, non-poop-smelling, comfortable home is a bad thing?

"How I longed for a simple, dirt-floored, baby-friendly hut like that of a Yequana family," he wrote.

Right. Where the baby can eat and play in dirt that has been stepped on, pooped on, peed on, and probably puked on, too. That's just so healthy.

And last...

hold babies over toilets, buckets and shrubbery

Shrubbery? :}

111 posted on 04/22/2004 7:35:29 AM PDT by 4mycountry ("Completely concretely" - - That's "the power of the 'Freeper'.")
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To: maica
"I wonder what the ewackos think about the practice of millions of baggies of dog feces being thrown into garbage collections every day in America. While human waste gets very expensive sewage treatment, there is an awful lot of stuff that is not getting treatment - and not causing any concern to these earth-lovers that I am aware of."

Well, maybe this diaperless thing would appeal to all those folks who can't be bothered to clean up after their dogs, leaving their crap on neighbour's lawns, on the grass around public sidewalks (if not on the sidewalk itself), and in parks. There really are a lot of self-centred inconsiderate jerks out there.
112 posted on 04/22/2004 7:35:30 AM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
RE: Baby's mattress

Ya, you might as well have them sleep in sub kind of a rubberized tub with this concept! Plus, just think of what might go in their mouths!

I am all for cutting down on disposables. My son was in cloth diapers, laundered mostly at home, except when we traveled or went shopping. However, this diaper-less concept would clearly result in spread of disease and I don't even want to think about the smell!

113 posted on 04/22/2004 7:50:15 AM PDT by Lady Composer
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To: Ol' Sox
"In other news, shares of Pergo and Armstrong, makers of laminate and tile flooring went through the roof..."

Now there's a mixed metaphor for ya...

114 posted on 04/22/2004 7:51:58 AM PDT by Erasmus
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To: mhking
This is just disgusting. I'm quite sure that people who live in places with dirt floors and no plumbing would appreciate something as mundane as cloth diapers or disposables. These people are nuts.

I know people like this: liberal-ecoterrorist-PETA-vegans.
115 posted on 04/22/2004 8:11:09 AM PDT by Jaded
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To: kattracks; dighton; general_re
Umbra Fisk, advice columnist for Grist Magazine , a major environmental e-publication, has joined the diaperless baby effort.

Robert's Italian cousin?

116 posted on 04/22/2004 8:18:10 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: hellinahandcart
My mom used cloth diapers. Unless a mother lives on a farm or is very wealthy and can afford the time to train as such, this idea is very unrealistic. You can train a cat and dog to use the toilet too, but who has the time to do that?
117 posted on 04/22/2004 8:22:20 AM PDT by cyborg (The 9-11 commission members have penis envy.)
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To: kattracks
"Childbearing [should be] a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license.... All potential parents [should be] required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing."

-David Brower, Friends of the Earth

"The right to have children should be a marketable commodity, bought and traded by individuals but absolutely limited by the state."

-Keith Boulding, originator of the "Spaceship Earth" concept



"If radical environmentalists were to invent a disease to bring human populations back to sanity, it would probably be something like AIDS. It [AIDS] has the potential to end industrialism, which is the main force behind the environmental crises."

-Earth First! newsletter


"We in the Green movement, aspire to a cultural model in which the killing of a forest will be considered more contemptible and more criminal than the sale of 6-year-old children to Asian brothels."


-Carl Amery, Green Party of West Germany


"I got the impression that instead of going out to shoot birds, I should go out and shoot the kids who shoot birds."


-Paul Watson, founder of Greenpeace and Sea Shepherd

"The planet is about to break out with fever, indeed it may already have, and we [human beings] are the disease. We should be at war with ourselves and our lifestyles."

-Thomas Lovejoy, tropical biologist and assistant secretary of the Smithsonian Institution

"Phasing out the human race will solve every problem on earth, social and environmental."

Dave Forman, founder of Earth First, and presently a member of the Board of Directors for the Sierra Club



In the 1930s the ecologists "Green Revolution" reached full flower in Germany...In the political sphere, ecologists lobbied successfully, for antivivisection laws,..implementation of organic farming,..and the redistribution of large land holdings to the German peasants (Back-to- the-Land movement)...These laws became the policies of a political party that incorporated a major portion of the ecologists political agenda. This party also believed in the "Blood and Soil" ethic, and was known as the National Socialist Party. Its leader was Adolf Hitler.


-M.Gemmell & J.Lehr

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/707868/posts
118 posted on 04/22/2004 8:35:14 AM PDT by Tamzee (9 out of 10 terrorists recommend John Kerry... the tenth still clings to Dean.)
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To: kattracks
The real effect of diaperless babies would be cholera epidemics which would eliminate said babies. But I suppose that that it the real point.
119 posted on 04/22/2004 8:37:23 AM PDT by pbear8 (no complaining...Thanks be to God)
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To: kattracks
Well, I wouldn't want them diaperless, but I do at least agree that those big plastic diapers are about the most wasteful and inefficient use of landfill space there is.

Why do we need to create something that will last forever to hold poop for a few minutes?
120 posted on 04/22/2004 8:42:23 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (I am HairOfTheDog and I approved this message.)
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