Posted on 04/24/2004 8:18:12 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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A large crater is seen at the railway station in Ryongchon, North Korea (news - web sites), after a catastrophic explosion, April 24, 2004. At least 154 people, including 76 students, were killed and more than 1,300 people had been injured in the blast at the railway station in the town of Ryongchon near the Chinese border on April 22, China's Xinhua news agency said, quoting a senior rescue official. CHINA OUT, NO ARCHIVES, NO SALES REUTERS/Xinhua/Ren Libo
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A compartment destroyed in the train blast is seen on Saturday April 24, 2004 in Ryongchon County, North Korea (news - web sites). North Korean officials said Thursday's explosion at a railway station in Ryongchon, a city near China's border, killed at least 154 people and injured 1,300, Red Cross official Jay Matta said by phone from a nearby town. Half of the dead were children, killed when their school was destroyed. (AP Photo/Xinhua, Ren Libo)
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The remains of a train and a rail track are seen at the railway station in Ryongchon, North Korea (news - web sites), after a catastrophic explosion, April 24, 2004. At least 154 people, including 76 students, were killed and more than 1,300 people had been injured in the blast at the railway station in the town of Ryongchon near the Chinese border on April 22, China's Xinhua news agency said, quoting a senior resuce official. CHINA OUT, NO ARCHIVES, NO SALES REUTERS/Xinhua/Ren Libo
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A damaged rail track is seen at the railway station in Ryongchon, North Korea (news - web sites), after a catastrophic explosion, April 24, 2004. At least 154 people, including 76 students, were killed and more than 1,300 people had been injured in the blast at the railway station in the town of Ryongchon near the Chinese border on April 22, China's Xinhua news agency said, quoting a senior rescue official. CHINA OUT, NO ARCHIVES, NO SALES REUTERS/Xinhua/Ren Libo
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North Korean investigators look at a damaged train after a railway explosion in Ryongchon, North Korea (news - web sites), April 24, 2004. The Red Cross confirmed that a train blast in North Korea had killed 154 people, including scores of children. (Xinhua/Reuters)
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North Korean children walk across railway lines after a catastrophic explosion at the railway station in Ryongchon, North Korea (news - web sites), April 24, 2004. At least 154 people, including 76 students, were killed and more than 1,300 people had been injured in the blast at the railway station in the town of Ryongchon near the Chinese border on April 22, China's Xinhua news agency said, quoting a senior rescue official. FOR EDITORIAL USE ONLY QUALITY FROM SOURCE REUTERS/ICRC/Handout
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A ruined building is seen after a catastrophic explosion at the railway station in Ryongchon, North Korea (news - web sites), April 24, 2004. At least 154 people, including 76 students, were killed and more than 1,300 people had been injured in the blast at the railway station in the town of Ryongchon near the Chinese border on April 22, China's Xinhua news agency said, quoting a senior rescue official. EDITORS NOTE - BEST QUALITY AVAILABLE FOR EDITORIAL USE ONLY REUTERS/ICRC/Handout
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The exterior view of damaged Ryongchon Primary School is seen Saturday, April 24, 2004, in Ryongchon, North Phyongan Province, North Korea (news - web sites). At least 154 people, including 76 students from Ryongchon Primany School, were killed and more than 1,300 injured in Thursday's train explosion at the Ryongchon railway station, China's state-run Xinhua news agency reported. (AP Photo/Xinhua, Ren Libo)
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A North Korean woman sits in front of a ruined building after a catastrophic explosion at the railway station in Ryongchon, North Korea (news - web sites), April 24, 2004. At least 154 people, including 76 students, were killed and more than 1,300 people had been injured in the blast at the railway station in the town of Ryongchon near the Chinese border on April 22, China's Xinhua news agency said, quoting a senior resuce official. EDITORS NOTE - BEST AVAILABLE QUALITY FOR EDITORIAL USE ONLY REUTERS/ICRC/Handout
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The exterior view of damaged Ryongchon Primary School is seen Saturday, April 24, 2004, in Ryongchon, North Phyongan Province, North Korea (news - web sites). At least 154 people, including 76 students from Ryongchon Primany School, were killed and more than 1,300 injured in Thursday's train explosion at the Ryongchon railway station, China's state-run Xinhua news agency reported. (AP Photo/Xinhua, Ren Libo)
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Destroyed houses at the site of the train blast is seen on Saturday April 24, 2004 in Ryongchon County, North Phyongan Province, North Korea (news - web sites). North Korean officials said Thursday's explosion at a railway station in Ryongchon, a city near China's border, killed at least 154 people and injured 1,300, Red Cross official Jay Matta said by phone from a nearby town. Half of the dead were children, killed when their school was destroyed. (AP Photo/Xinhua, Ren Libo)
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Rescuers sift through rubble April 24, 2004 after the catastrophic explosion at the railway station in Ryongchon, North Korea (news - web sites). At least 154 people, including 76 students, were killed and more than 1,300 people had been injured in the blast at the railway station in the town of Ryongchon near the Chinese border on April 22, China's Xinhua news agency said, quoting a senior rescue official. Photo by Reuters (Handout)
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Ruins left over after train blast are seen om Saturday April 24, 2004 in Ryongchon County, North Phyongan Province, North Korea (news - web sites). North Korean officials said Thursday's explosion at a railway station in Ryongchon, a city near China's border, killed at least 154 people and injured 1,300, Red Cross official Jay Matta said by phone from a nearby town. Half of the dead were children, killed when their school was destroyed. (AP Photo/Xinhua
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A girl walks past the ruins of destroyed houses at Ryongchon County, North Phyongan Province, North Korea (news - web sites), on Saturday April 24, 2004. North Korean officials said Thursday's explosion at a railway station in Ryongchon, a city near China's border, killed at least 154 people and injured 1,300, Red Cross official Jay Matta said by phone from a nearby town. Half of the dead were children, killed when their school was destroyed. (AP Photo/Xinhua, Ren Libo)
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A destroyed houses at the site of the train blast is seen on Saturday April 24, 2004 in Ryongchon County, North Phyongan Province, North Korea (news - web sites). North Korean officials said Thursday's explosion at a railway station in Ryongchon, a city near China's border, killed at least 154 people and injured 1,300, Red Cross official Jay Matta said by phone from a nearby town. Half of the dead were children, killed when their school was destroyed. (AP Photo/Xinhua, Ren Libo)
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Aid Workers Rush to N. Korean Train Site
1 hour, 31 minutes ago
By CHRISTOPHER BODEEN, Associated Press Writer
DANDONG, China - Aid workers rushed to the scene of a devastating train blast Saturday after North Korea (news - web sites) made unprecedented pleas for help. Officials blamed the disaster on carelessness, saying downed power lines ignited a cargo of volatile ammonium nitrate fertilizer.
Normally secretive North Korean officials told foreign diplomats and relief organizations that hundreds of people were killed and thousands injured in Thursday's explosion in Ryongchon, near the Chinese border.
The numbers were expected to climb amid witness accounts of a massive eruption. Chinese villagers 12 miles away said they felt the force of the blast and saw a black, mushroom-shaped cloud over the horizon.
John Sparrow, a Red Cross spokesman in Beijing, said Saturday that damage was spread out over a radius of 2 1/2 miles.
"The railroad station and the immediate surroundings were obliterated," said Sparrow, who received information from an aid worker at the scene.
Jay Matta, a Red Cross worker in Pyongyang, described "a crater as though a fireball" had hit, Sparrow said.
In a conference call later, Matta described a rubble-strewn scene of devastation, with buildings "totally flattened."
Buildings left standing within a few hundred yards of the site had blown out windows, damaged roofs and showed signs of scorching, Matta said in a conference call.
In its first statement on the disaster, North Korea's official news agency said the catastrophic explosion in the railway town was touched off by "electrical contact caused by carelessness during the shunting of wagons loaded with ammonium nitrate fertilizer." The chemical is sometimes used in explosives.
Separately, the Chinese news agency Xinhua quoted North Korean officials as saying trains loaded with oil and chemicals collided and were ignited by a downed power line.
Few foreign journalists are allowed into North Korea. But in the first report datelined from the site, Xinhua said at least 154 people were confirmed dead, half of them students, and 1,300 were injured.
In an uncharacteristically candid report, the North's news agency KCNA said "the damage is very serious" and expressed appreciation for promises of international humanitarian assistance.
Those offers came in the hours after the North issued a rare appeal for foreign help, inviting aid workers to come see the disaster site in Ryongchon, a city with chemical and metalworking plants and a reported population of 130,000.
U.S. defense officials have said that the worst damage from the blast extended at least 200 yards from the railway station. Diplomats and aid groups were told by the North that thousands of apartments and houses were destroyed or damaged.
On Saturday, an aid convoy was headed to the site carrying antibiotics, bandages, painkillers and other supplies — all of which are scarce in the impoverished country, Sparrow said.
"We are fearful that they could be overwhelmed by the large numbers of injured," he said, adding that many people might have been made homeless and would need tents and other shelter.
North Korea restricts the movement of foreigners, and groups that distribute aid to alleviate its food shortages are barred from some areas.
Aid workers have been allowed to visit areas struck by drought or floods in recent years, but the government has never arranged such quick access to the scene of a disaster like the train explosion.
Those visiting the site Saturday were not allowed to carry mobile communications, said Brendan McDonald, head of the U.N. office for coordination in Pyongyang, the North Korean capital.
The World Health Organization (news - web sites) said it did not expect to hear from its representative until he returned to Pyongyang on Saturday night.
Chinese villagers near the North Korean border said they could see and hear the blast in Ryongchon.
"I first saw a big fireball. Then I heard the sound of the explosion. Then I saw smoke come up," said a fisherman in the village of Anmin. He gave only his family name, Qu. "We were very scared."
A shopkeeper in Anmin, who gave his name as Mr. Shen, said he saw "black smoke, just like a mushroom cloud after a nuclear bomb." North Korean officials told Britain's ambassador that several hundred people were thought to have died and several thousand were injured, a British Foreign Office spokesman said.
North Korea's Deputy U.N. Ambassador Kim Chang Guk told Associated Press Television News he didn't have details about the explosion.
"But I think it is very serious because our government held out its hand to the world community for help," he said in New York. "It means it is a great incident."
China and South Korea (news - web sites) offered assistance. And U.S. State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said Washington was evaluating the situation to see "if there is a need or an opportunity for the United States to help."
The blast leveled the train station, a school and apartments, South Korea's Yonhap news agency said, quoting Chinese witnesses. It said there were about 500 people in the station at the time.
South Korea's Chosun Ilbo newspaper, citing a South Korean intelligence source, said a U.S. spy satellite photograph showed damage mostly in densely populated neighborhoods east of the station.
"Hospitals are jam-packed with people injured," Chosun Ilbo quoted a Chinese witness as saying.
There was no sign in Dandong, a Chinese border city about 12 miles from Ryongchon, of injured North Koreans. But the city's three biggest hospitals were preparing for a possible surge of patients.
Training accident.
Hyperbole aside, North Korea has a severe shortage of agricultural fertilizer.
And THEN you'd have to ignite it with an incendiary charge of some sort, not just sparks.
Besides, with the changing stories, etc.....sounds like you had to actually try hard to make this happen.
I commented on an earlier thread that I thought it was 'miraculous' that these three products combined to produce a 'tragedy' .... an ANFO bomb.
My parting shot was ... Where was Arlen sphincter and when did he know what?
Maybe I'm wrong here, but I think the fertilizer has to be mixed with diesel fuel before it becomes an explosive. The fertizer itself isn't shipped like that. This sounds like some Korean PR hack pulled that story out of the air (or somewhere else).
If I were an aid worker, I would have a radiation exposure badge in me pocket for sure.
I think that they are not telling the whole story. Some part of their story could also be a fabrication.
They seem to start trying the western-style PR spin to outsiders, which could be an unfamiliar game to them, while information is still tightly controlled domestically.
No need to tell them. You just bring one along with tons of relief supplies and quietly do the job.
Some of these rescue workers and journalists are spies from outside. That is given. They would be doing the investigation of their own.
I agree. There are a lot more to this incident than their officials told outsiders.
Solid rocket propellant is more likely.
Texas city, Texas, 1947. A shipload of Ammonium Nitrate Fertilizer leveled the town.
The picture taken on Saturday April 24, 2004 shows the site of the train blast in Ryongchon County, North Phyongan Province, North Korea (news - web sites). Korean officials said Thursday's explosion at a railway station in Ryongchon, a city near China's border, killed at least 154 people and injured 1,300, Red Cross official Jay Matta said by phone from a nearby town. Half of the dead were children, killed when their school was destroyed. (Xinhua Photo/Ren Libo)
Me neither, likewise, but I am ridiculously overeducated, and on that basis ( along with a little web browsing ) I can state that pure ammonium nitrate will detonate. It is a "high explosive" all by itself. Some of the detonation products are oxidizers, so the addition of fuel oil will boost the explosion since these oxidizers will combine with the hydrocarbons in the fireball of the explosion.
Here's one:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040423/ids_photos_india_wl/ra3976961609.jpg
My father was in Korea ’51-’52. Those photos look exactly like the ones he took during the war.
Note the poor guy in the photo posted #39, he has a piece of string for a belt.
Also found this interesting:
In the small community of North Korean defectors in Seoul, a story is circulating that Kim Jong Il, the North's leader, narrowly avoided an assassination attempt by changing his schedule at the last moment. According to the rumours, residents of Ryongchon were not informed of his new schedule. Some 700 children were lined up on the platform to wave flags in greeting but were caught in a blast timed to kill him as his train went past.
EXPLOSION HAZARD FROM
AMMONIUM NITRATE
[EPA document] A For the purpose of transportation, ammonium nitrate with less than 0.2 percent combustible substances and ammonium nitrate fertilizers are classified by the U.S. Department of Transportation as oxidizers. Ammonium nitrate with more than 0.2 percent combustible substances is classified as an explosive. Ammonium nitrate can be exploded under certain conditions. These Although ammonium nitrate generally is used safely and normally is stable and unlikely to explode accidentally, accidental explosions of ammonium nitrate have resulted in loss of lives and destruction of property. These accidents rarely occur, but when they do, they have high
Other large explosions were triggered by fires involving ammonium nitrate in confined spaces, including the 1947 explosion of two cargo ships. A fire in the hold, involving ammonium nitrate fertilizer coated with wax and stored in paper bags, caused the explosion of the first ship; the ammonium nitrate in the second ship exploded some time later, apparently as a result of a fire caused by the first explosion. As a result of such accidents and subsequent studies of the properties of ammonium nitrate, ....and wax coatings are no longer used for ammonium nitrate fertilizer.... As ammonium nitrate solution becomes more acidic, its stability decreases, and it may be more likely to explode. Ammonium nitrate by itself does not burn
http://yosemite.epa.gov/oswer/ceppoweb.nsf/vwResourcesByFilename/ ammonitr.pdf/$File/ammonitr.pdf
DG
[Much as I loathe accepting anything claimed by the North Koreans as actual fact, it would seem that there is the slight possibility that the agent involved actually WAS ammonium nitrate. It is likely that it was contaminated.
It is instructive to remember, also, that ammonium nitrate is used in manufacturing several explosives, as well as used as a fertilizer. ]
It makes one wonder why so many of the Greenie Weenies look at Marxist Planned Economies as the savior for the environment. My daughter at an earth day event asked one that very question-- ponting out that Communist rule was an ecological disaster wherever it had been put into practice. The Green Party weenie, predictably, told her it wasn't practived right.
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