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Kerry not opposed to an Iranian model for Iraq
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Posted on 04/25/2004 3:32:05 PM PDT by freedom44

WASHINGTON - As Iraq looms larger on the radar screens of US voters, new differences are emerging between President George W. Bush and his Democratic challenger John Kerry on an exit strategy to end the year-old occupation.

Both men vow to "stay the course" despite renewed fierce fighting in Iraq. Both support the dispatch of additional troops if necessary and are counting on political help from the United Nations.

But subtle and not-so-subtle differences between the Republican president and his rival have surfaced in recent days as the United States scrambles to meet a June 30 deadline for restoring Iraqi self-rule.

Whereas Bush insists on a "democratic" Iraq, Kerry would settle for a "stable" Iraq. If Bush has given full rein to a UN envoy to work out transitional arrangements, the Democrat wants to involve European and Arab states as well.

Kerry has also stuck by his criticism of Bush for failing to bring in more foreign troops and make Iraq a NATO operation, even if the alliance and its members have shown little enthusiasm for such a prospect.

Although foreign policy questions rarely have a major impact on US presidential campaigns, Iraq has moved up on the voters' agenda as the US death toll mounted with more than 100 soldiers killed this month alone.

Americans now put Iraq and terrorism up there with the economy as major concerns. A Washington Post-ABC News poll last week showed 23 percent thought Iraq was the single most important issue, up from 10 percent in March.

But if Bush has seen support for his handling of the war plummet in recent months, with most Americans scpetical whether he has a clear plan to get out, he still enjoys a healthy edge over Kerry on the question.

The Washington Post-ABC News poll showed Bush preferred over Kerry 52-41 percent when it comes to tackling Iraq, a sharp reversal from six weeks earlier when the Massachusetts senator was on top by a single point.

With the continued occupation of Iraq turning out to be an emotional and volatile issue, the candidates have both been moving to the center.

Kerry, who voted to authorise last year's invasion before opposing it, now matches criticism of the White House with pledges to support US troops. Bush has embraced a key role for the United Nations which he previously shunned.

"There's not a ton of detail at the level of tactics and programmatic differences," said Michael O'Hanlon, foreign policy analyst at the Brookings Institution.

Some analysts suggest Kerry might have to take a more dovish line on Iraq if independent Ralph Nader, who fashions himself a "peace" candidate, starts drawing support on the issue.

For now Kerry, a Vietnam war hero branded by the White House as waffling and weak on defense, appears to be working to stake out modest new ground on Iraq.

Asked in a television interview last Sunday whether he would accept putting the country under a Shiite theocracy similar to the regime in Iran, Kerry said, "what is critical is a stable Iraq."

"It doesn't have to be, at least in the early days, the kind of democracy this administration has talked about, though that's our goal, and we should remain there."

Bush stood by his call for democracy. "It's necessary, it's what will help change the world," he told a convention of newspaper editors. "You either believe people can self-govern or not; believe democracy is possible in that part of the world, and I think it is."

The president has given full support to UN envoy Lakhdar Brahimi to come up with a transitional government for Iraq by June 30. He waved off questions at an April 16 news conference on who would be Iraq's new rulers, saying "that's going to be decided by Mr. Brahimi."

Kerry, who has called for the United Nations to supervise Iraq's political and economic rehabilitation, said Friday it was not enough to use Brahimi as a "back door" for negotiations and other countries should be included.

He said neither Arab nor European states had an interest in seeing a failed Iraq festering at their doorstep, but "notwithstanding those interests, none of them are at the table with this administration."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraq; kerry; southwestasia
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1 posted on 04/25/2004 3:32:06 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: freedom44
Kerry is smart enough to support our cause in Iraq, so he says now, but yet dumb enough to not care what type of government they set up. I cannot fathom how this weasel is a presidential candidate.
2 posted on 04/25/2004 3:37:05 PM PDT by vpintheak (Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
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To: vpintheak
Because he's so bad, that only Hillary! can "save" the democRAT party?
3 posted on 04/25/2004 3:38:56 PM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: vpintheak
Americans won't like the idea of their sons and daughters dying to put an Iranian styled theocracy in power. In fact I'd think they'd be strongly opposed.
4 posted on 04/25/2004 3:42:42 PM PDT by DB (©)
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To: freedom44
Kerry is a moron.
5 posted on 04/25/2004 3:43:18 PM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: freedom44
If we follow these leftists, we'll wind up with "Iranian model" systems throughout Europe and eventually the US. They make me sick.
6 posted on 04/25/2004 3:44:50 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: freedom44
Kerry would settle for a "stable" Iraq

Iraq was pretty stable under Saddam. Brutal, but stable in a chem-bio attack-torture chamber-mass grave kind of way. Saddam's WMD program was stable also, until GW started clearing the decks at the UN. That must be the kind of stability J Effin'K wants. The kind of stability that puts airliners into highrises...

7 posted on 04/25/2004 3:46:33 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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The only thing worse than a regime under Saddam is an Iranian style regime.

This war is supposed to be against Islamic Fundamentalism, if we're going to go in and destroy a Baathist Secular government in Iraq, you bet your ass we better setup a Secular Democracy.

8 posted on 04/25/2004 3:51:29 PM PDT by freedom44
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To: freedom44
Yep. Which is why Iran is undercutting our efforts there in a big way.
10 posted on 04/25/2004 3:59:46 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: freedom44
I'm sure he will vote for it before he votes against it.
11 posted on 04/25/2004 4:00:35 PM PDT by Thom Pain (Quisling - from Vidkun Quisling (1887-1945), a synonym for "traitor")
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To: CzarNicky
someone over at the DNC should pull the plug asap. Kerry will end up making McGovern look like William the Conqueror this November.

Surely the dems aren't throwing the election? It's hard to tell, but Kerry seems to be absolutely incompetent, and it's only April.

We haven't even really hit this guy yet and he's collapsing...Imagine what Team Rove will do this summer and post convention...I almost feel bad for the putz...almost
12 posted on 04/25/2004 4:00:49 PM PDT by Will_Zurmacht
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To: freedom44
He said neither Arab nor European states had an interest in seeing a failed Iraq festering at their doorstep,

Oh really John, I swear besides being a menace, the man is
a loony!

This is like Tojo saying," Japan has no interest in seeing a failed democracy in the Philippines."

13 posted on 04/25/2004 4:07:15 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: freedom44
Will the theocracy be Sunni or Shia?
14 posted on 04/25/2004 4:08:29 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (General - Alien Army of the Right (AAOTR))
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To: freedom44
Is he f'n nuts? Does he understand so darn little of the situation in Iran that he doesn't understand that the mullahs are exporting and have been exporting this fundamentalism!!!

And this dolt wants to be president?

Terrifying...
15 posted on 04/25/2004 4:18:36 PM PDT by OpusatFR (John Kerry - Cheezewhiz for the mind - marshmallow mush for the masses)
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To: Will_Zurmacht
someone over at the DNC should pull the plug asap.

We don't want that Though I suppose I could handle a Modull substitution.
16 posted on 04/25/2004 4:22:47 PM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: freedom44
Another keeper.

Second in 5 days.
17 posted on 04/25/2004 4:34:38 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (" Permitting homosexuality didn't work out very well for the Roman Empire")
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To: freedom44
Fortunately, the Iraqis have shown no interest in having the same kind of government they have in Iran. Thanks primarily to the good Iranians who have come to worship at Ali's tomb. Most of them have warned the Iraqis about what they would have to look forward to, and the Iraqis have listened.
18 posted on 04/25/2004 4:38:45 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Evil thrives when good men do nothing.)
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To: freedom44
"Hanoi John's" mouth, just keeps mucking things up!
19 posted on 04/25/2004 4:39:26 PM PDT by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 - THE BEST GET BETTER)
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To: freedom44
Didn't Kerry have contact with Iran?

He's signaling Iran to keep up the violence in S. Iraq.IMO

He's insane or worse.
20 posted on 04/25/2004 4:40:09 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (" Permitting homosexuality didn't work out very well for the Roman Empire")
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