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Militants in Europe Openly Call for Jihad and the Rule of Islam
The New York Times ^ | April 26, 2004 | PATRICK E. TYLER and DON VAN NATTA Jr

Posted on 04/26/2004 7:53:48 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

LUTON, England, April 24 — The call to jihad is rising in the streets of Europe, and is being answered, counterterrorism officials say.

In this former industrial town north of London, a small group of young Britons whose parents emigrated from Pakistan after World War II have turned against their families' new home. They say they would like to see Prime Minister Tony Blair dead or deposed and an Islamic flag hanging outside No. 10 Downing Street.

They swear allegiance to Osama bin Laden and his goal of toppling Western democracies to establish an Islamic superstate under Shariah law, like Afghanistan under the Taliban. They call the Sept. 11 hijackers the "Magnificent 19" and regard the Madrid train bombings as a clever way to drive a wedge into Europe.

On Thursday evening, at a tennis center community hall in Slough, west of London, their leader, Sheik Omar Bakri Mohammad, spoke of his adherence to Osama bin Laden. If Europe fails to heed Mr. bin Laden's offer of a truce — provided that all foreign troops are withdrawn from Iraq in three months — Muslims will no longer be restrained from attacking the Western countries that play host to them, the sheik said.

"All Muslims of the West will be obliged," he said, to "become his sword" in a new battle. Europeans take heed, he added, saying, "It is foolish to fight people who want death — that is what they are looking for."

On working-class streets of old industrial towns like Crawley, Luton, Birmingham and Manchester, and in the Arab enclaves of Germany, France, Switzerland and other parts of Europe, intelligence officials say a fervor for militancy is intensifying and becoming more open.

In Hamburg, Dr. Mustafa Yoldas, the director of the Council of Islamic Communities, saw a correlation to the discord in Iraq. "This is a very dangerous situation at the moment," Dr. Yoldas said. "My impression is that Muslims have become more and more angry against the United States."

Hundreds of young Muslim men are answering the call of militant groups affiliated or aligned with Al Qaeda, intelligence and counterterrorism officials in the region say.

Even more worrying, said a senior counterterrorism official, is that the level of "chatter" — communications among people suspected of terrorism and their supporters — has markedly increased since Mr. bin Laden's warning to Europe this month. The spike in chatter has given rise to acute worries that planning for another strike in Europe is advanced.

"Iraq dramatically strengthened their recruitment efforts," one counterterrorism official said. He added that some mosques now display photos of American soldiers fighting in Iraq alongside bloody scenes of bombed out Iraqi neighborhoods. Detecting actual recruitments is almost impossible, he said, because it is typically done face to face.

And recruitment is paired with a compelling new strategy to bring the fight to Europe.

Members of Al Qaeda have "proven themselves to be extremely opportunistic, and they have decided to try to split the Western alliance," the official continued. "They are focusing their energies on attacking the big countries" — the United States, Britain and Spain — so as to "scare" the smaller states.

Some Muslim recruits are going to Iraq, counterterrorism officials in Europe say, but more are remaining home, possibly joining cells that could help with terror logistics or begin operations like the one that came to notice when the British police seized 1,200 pounds of ammonium nitrate, a key bomb ingredient, in late March, and arrested nine Pakistani-Britons, five of whom have been charged with trying to build a terrorist bomb.

Stoking that anger are some of the same fiery Islamic clerics who preached violence and martyrdom before the Sept. 11 attacks.

On Friday, Abu Hamza, the cleric accused of tutoring Richard Reid before he tried to blow up a Paris-to-Miami jetliner with explosives hidden in his shoe, urged a crowd of 200 outside his former Finsbury Park mosque to embrace death and the "culture of martyrdom."

Though the British home secretary, David Blunkett, has sought to strip Abu Hamza of his British citizenship and deport him, the legal battle has dragged on for years while Abu Hamza keeps calling down the wrath of God.

Also this week, over Mr. Blunkett's vigorous objection, a 35-year-old Algerian held under emergency laws passed after Sept. 11 was released from Belmarsh Prison. The man, identified only as "G," suffered from severe mental illness, his lawyers told a special immigration appeals panel, which let him out of prison and put him under house arrest.

Mr. Blunkett insisted that that should not be the final judgment on a man already found by one court "to be a threat to life and liberty."

In an interview on the BBC over the weekend, Mr. Blunkett advocated a stronger deportation policy, initially focused on 12 foreign terror suspects held without charge since the Sept. 11 attacks.

Despite tougher antiterrorism laws, the police, prosecutors and intelligence chiefs across Europe say they are struggling to contain the openly seditious speech of Islamic extremists, some of whom, they say, have been inciting young men to suicidal violence since the 1990's.

One chapter in Sheik Omar's lectures these days is "The Psyche of Muslims for Suicide Bombing."

The authorities say that laws to protect religious expression and civil liberties have the result of limiting what they can do to stop hateful speech. In the case of foreigners, they say they are often left to seek deportation, a lengthy and uncertain process subject to legal appeals, when the suspect can keep inciting attacks.

That leaves the authorities to resort to less effective means, such as mouse-trapping Islamic radicals with immigration violations in hopes of making a deportation case stick. "In many countries, the laws are liberal and it's not easy," an official said.

At a mosque in Geneva, an imam recently exhorted his followers to "impose the will of Islam on the godless society of the West."

"It was quite virulent," said a senior official with knowledge of the sermon. "The imam was encouraging his followers to take over the godless society."

While such a sermon may be incitement, recruitment takes a more shadowy course, and is hard to detect, a senior antiterrorism official said. "Believers are appealed to in the mosques, but the real conversations take place in restaurants or cafes or private apartments," the official said.

While some clerics, like Abu Qatada — said to be the spiritual counselor of Mohamed Atta, who led the Sept. 11 hijacking team — remain in prison in Britain without charge, others like Sheik Omar, leader of a movement called Al Muhajiroun, carry on a robust ideological campaign.

"There is no case against me," Sheik Omar said in an interview. Referring to calls by members of Parliament that he be deported, he added, "but they are Jewish" and "they have been calling for that for years."

Among his ardent followers is Ishtiaq Alamgir, 24, who heads Al Muhajiroun in Luton and calls himself Sayful Islam, the sword of Islam. He says there are about 50 members here but exact numbers are secret.

Most days, he and a handful of his followers run a recruitment stand on Dunstable Road much to the chagrin of the Muslim elders of Luton.

Mainstream Muslims are outraged by the situation, saying the actions of a few are causing their communities to be singled out for surveillance and making the larger population distrustful of them.

Muhammad Sulaiman, a stalwart of the mainstream Central Mosque here, was penniless when he arrived from the Kashmiri frontier of Pakistan in 1956. He raised money to build the Central Mosque here and now leads a campaign to ban Al Muhajiroun radicals from the city's 10 mosques.

"This is show-off business," he says in accented English. "I don't want these kids in my mosque."

Other community leaders look to the government to do something, if only to help prevent the demonization of British Muslims, or "Islamophobia," as some here call it.

"I think these kids are being brainwashed by a few radical clerics," said Akhbar Dad Khan, another elder of the Central Mosque. He wants them prosecuted or deported. "We should be able to control this negativity," he said.

In Slough, Sheik Omar spent much of his time Thursday night regaling his young followers with the erotic delights of paradise — sweet kisses and the pleasures of bathing with scores of women — while he also preached the virtues of death in Islamic struggle as a ticket to paradise.

He spoke of terrorism as the new norm of cultural conflict, "the fashion of the 21st century," practiced as much by Tony Blair as by Al Qaeda.

"We may be caught up in the target as the people of Manhattan were," he told them.

And he warned Western leaders, "You may kill bin Laden, but the phenomenon, you cannot kill it — you cannot destroy it."

"Our Muslim brothers from abroad will come one day and conquer here and then we will live under Islam in dignity," he said.

Patrick E. Tyler reported from Luton, Slough and London and Don Van Natta Jr. from London. Souad Mekhennet contributed reporting from Germany.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: civilizations; islam; jihadineurope; militants; muslims; war
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To: cyborg
I think many people whose parents emigrated to England, would disagree with you esp. since they grew up there for decades.

They can disagree all they wish. If the current population of Britain were entirely replaced with people from the Subcontinent, you could call it "Britain" all you like, but it would definitely not be a "Britain" that any sane person would consider having the same culture and ethnic identity as before. I would hesitate to even call it by the same name, since all that would do is generate confusion.

It woudl be rather like pretending that the Arabs who have overrun Tunisia and Algeria share ehtnicity with Sts. Cyprian and Augustine, who were ethnic Romans. Or similarly, pretending that the inhabitants of Serbia and Bulgaria share an ethnicity with Emperor Justinian, who also came from that region of the world. Again, the former are Slavs, while Justinian was a Roman. Accidents of birth ad migration don't make a shared ethnicity.

Who is an American then?

Primarily two different strains - the mixed ethnic descendants of the original northern european settlers (preomdinantly Anglo-Irish, but also German), and the descendants of the enslaved Africans. The more recent Italian, Greek, Portuguese, Jewish, etc. immigrants are gradually becoming American by intermarrying and shedding their distinctive cultural traits and adopting English. The younger generations of these are very American, while the older generations still act like foreigners.

Based upon this, I think it is extremely unlikely that any other racial groups (like Asians from China/Japan/Korea/etc.) will get considered by Americans as a whole as Americans in the same sense that Blacks and Whites are considered constituent parts of America without significant cultural and linguistic changes upon their part that would fully Americanize the group as a whole, as done by Blacks at the time of the Civil War when they won citizenship and legal equality in a society that up until then excluded all non-Whites. Until that time, they will still be viewed as a whole as "Immigrants" and not "Natives".

America is also a special case because the link of ethnicity and citizenship was never fully established. Although the British element predominated, other Europeans were allowed in, and then people of other races, and then citizenship was finally extended to all. Comparing the US (and Canada and Australia) is thus different from the great monocultural countries of Europe - Germany, Britain, Italy, Poland, Spain, France, etc. No one would pretend that an Italian who moves to Sweden has become ethnically identical to his Swedish neighbors.

Does that make sense?

I respectfully disagree with you.

I'm sure you do. You appear to deny the very basis of ethnic identity. Its simply not something that you cannot change willy-nilly by moving to a new country and having children there, especially when the change is across racial lines.

There are examples from history of French refugees, for example, leaving France for Britain and Germany and their children adopting British and German culture and intermarrying with the natives. Hence Oskar Lafontaine, former head of the German SPD. Lafontaine is hardly a German name, but he was hardly a French ethnic.

I would think that actual Britains would strongly disagree with the characterization of any of the immigrant groups there now as having a shared ethnicity with them, simply because they do not.

It doesn't mean the immigrants aren't nice people or great citizens as a whole. Most undoubtedly are. But that misses the point.

101 posted on 04/26/2004 10:43:08 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Sender
The 'moderate' and 'peaceful' muslims are either in denial of the nature of their faith or they are lying to our faces."


I'd bet my life on the latter.
102 posted on 04/26/2004 10:48:14 AM PDT by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices it.)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
To continue to allow muslims to immigrate and to travel freely in western countries is akin to allowing Japanese and German nationals the same privledge in 1943. Can you imagine that?????

Amazing isnt it? In the face of the declaration of war...the Liberals want to coddle the enemy, and take my firearms....

This world has gone mad.

103 posted on 04/26/2004 10:48:30 AM PDT by antaresequity
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
Judging him on his actions, Mr. Lafontaine was French, I have no doubt about that! ;-)
104 posted on 04/26/2004 10:48:40 AM PDT by Michael81Dus
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To: 2banana
It was Rome vs. Carthage! Don't you know anything about history?
105 posted on 04/26/2004 10:50:59 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Tax energy not labor.)
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To: NRA2BFree
Actually Islam doesn't order them to kill us all right off the bat. The way I understand it, these are the stages of Islamization:

1- The Quran orders them to 'evangelize' or convert us to Islam. If we agree and accept Islam, then we are borg too.

2- If we refuse to accept Islam, but our host country 'makes peace with Islam', meaning we pretty much give them freedom to take over and run the place, then we don't have to be killed. We can live as 'dhimmi' or non-muslim, second-class citizens who must pay them taxes and we would no longer have control of our laws or our country.

3- If we refuse to accept Islam, and our country also refuses to 'make peace with Islam', then we must be killed.

See, they are tolerant after all.

106 posted on 04/26/2004 10:58:34 AM PDT by Sender (It is not always the same thing to be a good man and a good citizen. -Aristotle)
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
okay I have some disagreements but that's another thread
107 posted on 04/26/2004 10:59:13 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: NRA2BFree
I have Muslim business associates whom I trust and admire, and consider good friends. I've broken bread with them, met their wives and children. Anyone who proposes to line them up and shoot them, because they are practicing Muslims, will have to go through me first.

I don't permit my worldview to be poisoned by ignorance and bigotry. Thankfully, that sentiment is a small and odious minority on this site and in our nation.

What would I do? What we are doing. I fully support isolating, and killing, the agents of Islamist terror wherever they live. I fully support our Afghan and Iraqi operations, the measured and precise miliatry/cultural/political campaign. I trust George W. Bush and our military leaders to wage any, and all, policies and actions that will maximize our security home and abroad.

I've got no time for the "Kill Them All" crowd. They are mirror images of the jihad butchers.
108 posted on 04/26/2004 11:28:12 AM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.
109 posted on 04/26/2004 11:34:17 AM PDT by SJackson (If she'd lived, Kopechne would be 62..Ted Kennedy would have brought comfort to her in her old age)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
The Germans will blame the Jews and the French will blame the Americans and the Brits will just bend over and take it again.
110 posted on 04/26/2004 11:36:47 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
"It is foolish to fight people who want death — that is what they are looking for."

Happy to oblige.

111 posted on 04/26/2004 11:44:43 AM PDT by opus86
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To: Michael81Dus
Har, har, har!

Actually, I was always curious about the ethnicity of the last leader of East Germany - I forget his name, but damn if he didn't look like a Turk or Mongol!
112 posted on 04/26/2004 11:56:59 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: cyborg
If I, a pale red-haried American of Anglo-German heritage were to move to India and take up citizenship, would I become an "ethnic" Indian?
113 posted on 04/26/2004 11:58:29 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Sender
See, they are tolerant after all.

LOL! I'm so glad you've explained the process to me. I will be more tolerant, while I'm waiting for them to kill me. ;-)

114 posted on 04/26/2004 12:01:02 PM PDT by NRA2BFree
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
so kewl!

someday those socialists in spain, and europe, will wake up to the reality...we're at war!
115 posted on 04/26/2004 12:03:16 PM PDT by no_problema
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Listen, it is not 1933. Germans don't reflexively blame Jews for everything anymore. The level of anti-Semitism in Germany is much lower than anywhere else in Europe. I say this as someone who lives in the country and has a name that is conspicuously Jewish. It is even considered rude to ask. The Allies crushed Germany and then turned them into knee-jerk pacifists. As much as we may criticise this trait when we could use their support, it is truly a sign of victory that the two of the world's most militant nations to ever exist(Japan and Germany) are now unrepentent pacifists. This is the same challenge we face with the Muslims. And, a Gotterdämmerung (or Sinnflut if you prefer) may be necessary to bring it about.
116 posted on 04/26/2004 12:03:55 PM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Tax energy not labor.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Also, the French like to bend over and take it too.
117 posted on 04/26/2004 12:04:55 PM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Tax energy not labor.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Also, the French like to bend over and take it too. They call it capitulation.
118 posted on 04/26/2004 12:05:16 PM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Tax energy not labor.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
This makes me so grateful that my WWII vet grandpa died last year at the age of 81--people his age(I have a great aunt there still talking of this/same age) having been warning of this for years as the influx of Muslims grew. The older folks have been upset for years at what this means for THEIR civilization
119 posted on 04/26/2004 12:06:22 PM PDT by cupcakes
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
"It is foolish to fight people who want death — that is what they are looking for."

Glad to oblige. Who's first up to go to Hell? Don't be bashful, raghead scum.
120 posted on 04/26/2004 12:06:53 PM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• © • ™ • ® •)
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