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Militants in Europe Openly Call for Jihad and the Rule of Islam
The New York Times ^ | April 26, 2004 | PATRICK E. TYLER and DON VAN NATTA Jr

Posted on 04/26/2004 7:53:48 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
Strangely, they are now picking a fight with the West that they are certain to lose.

The self-hating PC crowd has them convinced otherwise. Hopefully they'll both go down together.

21 posted on 04/26/2004 8:15:04 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
I keep this handyfor a quick P&C.

Muslims put up a poster on the Finsbury Park Mosque, North London, before a conference organised by militant groups on "September 11th, the lessons, benefit and harm," on Wednesday.

22 posted on 04/26/2004 8:16:35 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: aznative
I now think that ALL Muslims need to be round up and shot. Men, women, and children. ALL OF THEM.

I'm not for rounding them up and killing them all. But I'm absolutely for a little ethnic cleansing and removing all them from all western countries.

Some cultures simply are not compatible with others.

23 posted on 04/26/2004 8:17:41 AM PDT by navyblue
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
This is a free online book on Islam's early days of expansion:

http://www.answering-islam.org.uk/BehindVeil/

This is a free online book on Islam's teachings:

http://www.prophetofdoom.net/

If everyone read these books, Islam would collapse because modern people would get sick to the stomach whenever they heard the word Islam.
24 posted on 04/26/2004 8:19:00 AM PDT by OK
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
"It is foolish to fight people who want death — that is what they are looking for."

I promote myself to King of Fools!
25 posted on 04/26/2004 8:19:48 AM PDT by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices it.)
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To: navyblue
You may be right but it's not going to happen anytime soon barring some violent confrontation.
26 posted on 04/26/2004 8:19:56 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: 2banana
Militants in Europe Openly Call for Jihad and the Rule of Islam

Now it's time for our little story break...

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Once upon a time, in a place not too far from here but not too close either, on a cold winter day a young man walking through the forest found a snake that was almost frozen to death.

After thinking about it a minute, the young man picked up the snake and tucked him under his heavy coat where the snake would be warm. Now the snake was a very poisonous snake but the young man wasn't afraid. He was sure that when the snake warmed up and came back to life it would be so grateful that it would be his friend.

As he keep walking through the cold woods, the young man thought about how wonderful it would be having this snake for his friend. How he would impress his friend. How people would admire him for being so brave and clever.

Now he had not walked too far when he could feel the snake stirring to life, and his parted his coat just a little to look at the snake. But no sooner had he done this than the snake -- fast as lightening -- sprung up and sunk its fangs into the young man's neck.

"How could you do this to me?" asked the young man has he lay dying. "I saved you from freezing to death. I warmed you with my own body."

But the snake,sliding carelessly away, merely replied, "You knew what I was when you took me in."

27 posted on 04/26/2004 8:20:17 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
I appreciate you pointing out the obvious. I do not believe that I implied that it was. I wrote about civilizations. Rome was not Christian. This did not stop the two of them from fighting it out for centuries.

You lose me. Roman fought and invade areas all across Europe, the Middle East and Africa. Sometime they invade these areas numerous times (Gaul) and fought for centuries. I don't think it was a middle east/europe thing.

28 posted on 04/26/2004 8:22:58 AM PDT by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: yankeedame
But the snake,sliding carelessly away, merely replied, "You knew what I was when you took me in."

Q. E. D.!

29 posted on 04/26/2004 8:27:34 AM PDT by navyblue
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To: OXENinFLA
Chilling.
30 posted on 04/26/2004 8:29:10 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
The call to jihad is rising in the streets of Europe, and is being answered

Yep. And dont you bet that it started very small, like, allowing mosques to BROADCAST MUSLIME PARAYERS over the airwaves?

Watch out United States of America, we must stop the spread of islamic jihad now - or risk the same on our own soil.
31 posted on 04/26/2004 8:29:46 AM PDT by Iron Matron (Troublemakers deserve the righteous ZOT!)
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To: cyborg
Although aznative came on a little strong, he seems to recognize that we are in a war. At least the other side calls it a war. Maybe we should acknowledge that we really are at war.

I would agree with him to the point that we must identify the enemy and defeat them by one means or another, quickly and with as little loss of life on our side as possible. I really think that the WWII model should be looked at. Several enemy cities, not just Hiroshima and Nagasaki, were turned into smoking ruins with hundreds of thousands of civilian casualties. Internment camps were set up and filled with people on the basis of their ethnicity.

We won WWII. Although people will not admit it, there are many parallels with the present struggle. It really is good versus evil and when you are battling evil you sometimes have to use unconstitutional methods. You also have to fight the war with less regard for the civilian population of the enemy than is now being shown.

aznative is somewhat extreme, but he does have the basic recipe for victory.

32 posted on 04/26/2004 8:31:34 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: Iron Matron
That should read PRAYERS, though I doubt there is a big difference when practiced.
33 posted on 04/26/2004 8:31:38 AM PDT by Iron Matron (Troublemakers deserve the righteous ZOT!)
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To: aznative; Mr. Mojo
I now think that ALL Muslims need to be round up and shot. Men, women and children. ALL OF THEM.

You know what's so troubling about what you've said? I feel the EXACT same way, and it goes against EVERYTHING I've ever thought or believed in.

In part, I blame our government for not dealing fast and furious with eliminating these savages. Force and total brutality is the ONLY thing they understand. What concerns me the most is that we are appeasing them now, in America.

When I heard about the town in MI that's going to allow Muslim prayers over loud speakers 5 times a day, it threw up a warning flag to me. Most of the non Muslims have sold out and moved to get away from them and the remaining citizens have caved into them out of fear. This is how Muslims will gain control in our Government if we don't stop them now. Muslims have the SAME plan for ALL of America, and they have us on the run!!

34 posted on 04/26/2004 8:31:55 AM PDT by NRA2BFree
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To: FeliciaCat; aznative
He sounds like someone who understands "Death to the infidels"
35 posted on 04/26/2004 8:34:16 AM PDT by Coroner
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To: aznative
I now think that ALL Muslims need to be round up and shot. Men, women, and children. ALL OF THEM.

Even Kareem Abdul Jabbar and Muhammad Ali?

Needless to say, your proposition is insane.

36 posted on 04/26/2004 8:34:59 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Former Proud Canadian
I guess :(
37 posted on 04/26/2004 8:35:14 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
The Middle East had a period of strength about 1000 years ago and they almost conquered Europe.

Thousand years ago? Try a little less. In 1571 Venice defeated the Turks at the battle of Lepanto.The Turks besieged Vienna in 1683. Up till then Islam had been constantly threatening Europe.
38 posted on 04/26/2004 8:35:49 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: OK
Good links, thanks.
39 posted on 04/26/2004 8:36:17 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian
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To: aznative
I hope you rethink that proposition.
40 posted on 04/26/2004 8:37:11 AM PDT by Barlowmaker
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