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CITY GIVES TENTATIVE OK FOR MUSLIM PRAYER CALLS - HAMTRAMCK, MICHIGAN
Detroit Free Press ^ | 21 April 2004 | CECIL ANGEL, Staff Writer

Posted on 04/27/2004 11:04:56 AM PDT by Robert Drobot

Edited on 05/07/2004 7:13:27 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Modernman
I wonder how this will play out. I'm not really sure if there is a constitutional impediment to allowing the loudspeakers to broadcast the call to prayer. I think this will probably end up being solved in the political arena.

What do you suppose Kerry will say about this over the next five days?

My guess is he'll have five different and conflicting responses!!!

21 posted on 04/27/2004 11:28:59 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: Robert Drobot
"Hamtramck is going to be a pioneer city for the whole United States."

Sure, its a pioneer city, but I can't imagine that the Muslim residents will allow it to remain named Hamtramck for very much longer. Any guesses on what it will be known as in the future?

22 posted on 04/27/2004 11:29:15 AM PDT by grellis (Mi sento male. Ho fatto un'indigestione!)
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To: grellis; pawdoggie
pawdoggie knows!!
23 posted on 04/27/2004 11:31:15 AM PDT by Coroner
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To: Robert Drobot
Muslims say that its freedom of religion and is a part or their faith

Saudi Arabia - Conversion by a Muslim to another religion is punishable by death. Bibles are illegal. Churches are illegal.

Yemen - Bans proselytizing by non-Muslims and forbids conversions. The Government does not allow the building of new non-Muslim places of worship

Kuwait - Registration and licensing of religious groups. Members of religions not sanctioned in the Koran may not build places of worship. Prohibits organized religious education for religions other than Islam

Egypt -Islam is the official state religion and primary source of legislation. Accordingly, religious practices that conflict with Islamic law are prohibited. Muslims may face legal problems if they convert to another faith. Requires non-Muslims to obtain what is now a presidential decree to build a place of worship

Algeria - The law prohibits public assembly for purposes of practicing a faith other than Islam. Non-Islamic proselytizing is illegal, and the Government restricts the importation of non-Islamic literature for distribution.

Jordan - Has the death penalty for any Muslim selling land to a Jew.

24 posted on 04/27/2004 11:31:24 AM PDT by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Robert Drobot
This is just another example of whats wrong in this country! Tell me will they allow Christians to pray on the speakers as well. Whats next Muslims are allowed to pray at high school football games!
25 posted on 04/27/2004 11:31:43 AM PDT by GLSchnJR (Justice was Served)
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To: GLSchnJR
The pathetic ACLU is hiding out on this one. They are only interested in kicking Christian asz.
26 posted on 04/27/2004 11:35:04 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: Coroner; pawdoggie
Could be...but how about Hamas al-tramiq?
27 posted on 04/27/2004 11:35:10 AM PDT by grellis (Mi sento male. Ho fatto un'indigestione!)
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To: Robert Drobot
Time for City residents to vote in a new council!
28 posted on 04/27/2004 11:38:38 AM PDT by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 - STAMP OUT (KERRY) SOCIALISTS.)
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To: GLSchnJR
Tell me will they allow Christians to pray on the speakers as well.

By granting an exception to the noise ordinance to a mosque, the city council is now pretty much required to give an exception to any other religious organization.

Whats next Muslims are allowed to pray at high school football games!

Everyone is free to pray to their heart's content at high school football games.

29 posted on 04/27/2004 11:40:00 AM PDT by Modernman (Work is the curse of the drinking classes. -Oscar Wilde)
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To: Smartass
The heathens are in the majority.
30 posted on 04/27/2004 11:40:50 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: Modernman
Well, looking on the bright side, this should make it a lot easier to get an eruv put up in Hamtramck.
31 posted on 04/27/2004 11:41:36 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Robert Drobot
Words fail me.... Where are we headed?? Lord, God of Abraham, help us and our children....
32 posted on 04/27/2004 11:41:57 AM PDT by momfirst
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To: Robert Drobot
Muslims have come to the city from Bangladesh, Yemen, Pakistan and other Islamic countries

So round them up and export them to an Islamic land.

33 posted on 04/27/2004 11:41:58 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: Robert Drobot
Sounds to me like the council caved on this out of fear of a lawsuit that would bankrupt the city. Ten bucks says this loudspeaker gets "vandalized" quite often.
34 posted on 04/27/2004 11:48:57 AM PDT by landorepub
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To: Modernman
By granting an exception to the noise ordinance to a mosque, the city council is now pretty much required to give an exception to any other religious organization.

Notching this up a click would you want to live in a city where overriding noise in a foreign tongue ( saying God knows ( the One True One ) what would be blasting into your daily conversation along with quotes from Scripture.

To be 'PC' Scripture would necessarily refain from the use of verses about false prophets and false Gods - to meet ACLU guidelines.

35 posted on 04/27/2004 11:50:30 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: Reborn
Where are the Christians in this city? Where are the "church leaders"? They should all take a stand together!



Sounds like there aren't any. Thats OK. When this becomes a muSLIME state and we have to "put down" insurgents and terror groups from within, at least no christians will be collateral damage.

I warn Michigan and it's HIGH POPULATION of muSLIMES:

The rest of the USA. WILL NOT, I mean WILL NOT ALLOW. WE WILL NOT ALLOW ISLAM TO OVERPOWER OUR PEOPLE! You found a place with yellow-belly people who give only lip service to the Christian God. Elsewhere, HIS NAME is called and HE the ALPHA, THE OMEGA, HE, THE ONE TRUE GOD - LISTENS.
36 posted on 04/27/2004 11:50:36 AM PDT by Iron Matron (Troublemakers deserve the righteous ZOT!)
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To: Robert Drobot
Notching this up a click would you want to live in a city where overriding noise in a foreign tongue ( saying God knows ( the One True One ) what would be blasting into your daily conversation along with quotes from Scripture.

Nope. I think the politicians here pretty much screwed themselves. From now on, they'll be hardpressed to turn down any request for exceptions to the noise ordinance. If they'd been smart, they should have said no exceptions for anyone.

37 posted on 04/27/2004 11:57:05 AM PDT by Modernman (Work is the curse of the drinking classes. -Oscar Wilde)
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To: Iron Matron
I warn Michigan and it's HIGH POPULATION of muSLIMES:

Michigan is about 4% Muslim. Hardly what I'd call a high population.

38 posted on 04/27/2004 12:03:29 PM PDT by Modernman (Work is the curse of the drinking classes. -Oscar Wilde)
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To: Robert Drobot
It spells trouble When their in the majority. I'm sure
they are being closely observed.
39 posted on 04/27/2004 12:05:28 PM PDT by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 - STAMP OUT (KERRY) SOCIALISTS.)
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To: Robert Drobot
Ohmigosh! What a travesty! The US with a foundation of Christianity being replaced with islamic fanaticism.
40 posted on 04/27/2004 12:08:53 PM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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