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Slain Army Ranger called 'dumb jock': "Anti-war" activists say Tillman 'brainwashed'
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Wednesday, April 28, 2004

Posted on 04/27/2004 11:41:32 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

Edited on 04/27/2004 11:42:27 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

An anti-globalist website posted a story on the ex-NFL player who became an Army Ranger, Pat Tillman, with the title "Dumb Jock Killed in Afghanistan."

The Portland, Ore., branch of the Independent Media Center ran the headline above a story by the Washington Post about Tillman's death last week in a firefight with militia forces in Afghanistan.

Tillman has been lauded by many Americans, including President Bush, as a hero for walking away from a $3.6 million contract in the prime of his football career to join units serving in Iraq and Afghanistan.


Pat Tillman (Photo: Arizona Republic)

The former Arizona Cardinals defensive back's head coach, Dave McGinnis, said after hearing of his death, "Pat knew his purpose in life. He proudly walked away from a career in football to a greater calling, which was to protect and defend our country. Pat represents those who have and will make the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom."

But the Portland Independent Media Center website was filled with comments affirming the "Dumb Jock" headline.

One suggested an alternative headline, " … or, how about, 'privileged millionaire, blinded by nationalist mythology, pisses away the good life.'"

Another suggested headline was: "'Citizen of empire allows ignorance to cause him to die for imperialism' or maybe ... Capitalist chooses to kill innocents instead of cashing check."

One reader who was identified as "George W." wrote, "Thanks for the laugh."

Commenting on the article's reference to a "brave American," a reader replied: "'brave'???? for going over to Afghanistan completely uninvited and slaughtering brown-skinned people with advanced weaponry?"

Another said: "Tillman chose to go to Afghanistan. He's partially reponsible [sic] for the deaths of hundreds, maybe thousands of Afghan civilians. No need to feel sorry for him, other than feeling bad that he was brainwashed into serving as a grunt."

The reader continued:

"Interesting how another poster said going to Afghanistan in a crusade to kill people is the 'Christian' thing to do. An extremely high percentage of white Judeo-Christians are violent and condone killing.

"Literally speaking, the original headline is true. Tillman is a jock. Going to serve as cannon fodder is dumb. However, people who cheer the deaths of jocks are one and the same with the white supremacist NRA wackos who celebrated Hitler's birthday by murdering many jocks and nonwhites at Columbine.

"If you visit any mainstream sports forum, you'll see over 90 percent of the posts about the issue are patriotic nonsense. They want to avenge Tillman by killing even more people worldwide. On the rare occasion someone makes an intelligent point, e.g., his death was avoidable because we should have brought the troops home a long time ago, the intelligent posters get flamed to oblivion by bloodthirsty chicken hawk 'patriots.'

"The USA will never completely control Afghanistan. Just like the Brits, Soviets, and other countries, the USA is guaranteed to lose."

Several posters, however, took exception to the headline and readers' comments, including one who said, "Trivializing someone's death doesn't serve the purpose of calling to question imperialist wars around the globe. Where's the love?"

Teresa Heinz Kerry's nonprofit Tides Center contributed $5,000, from its 9-11 Fund, to the Washington, D.C. branch of the Independent Media Center, according to the Tides Center's 2001 annual report [pdf].

The D.C. Center's website had at least one comment from a reader affirming the Portland website's headline and comments.

The Tides Center, a spinoff of the Tides Foundation, also funds an ostensibly independent group of relatives of victims of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, "Peaceful Tomorrows," which recently expressed outrage over campaign ads by President Bush.

The group also has given grants totaling $489,000 to the Iraq Peace Fund, which used the money to fund anti-war marches and groups such as MoveOn.org, which aims to defeat Bush in November.

The center reportedly gave $200,000 to The Ruckus Society, which trains anti-globalist activists and was responsible for destroying property in the World Trade Organization riots in Seattle in 1999.

The Independent Media Center said it was formed as an outgrowth of the violent Seattle protests.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: pattillman

1 posted on 04/27/2004 11:41:33 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Re-institute the draft and put these people on the front lines.
2 posted on 04/27/2004 11:47:32 PM PDT by henderson field
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To: JohnHuang2
Evil...
is alive and well.
3 posted on 04/27/2004 11:48:25 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (the madridification of our election is now officially underway.)
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To: JohnHuang2
*But the Portland Independent Media Center website was filled with comments affirming the "Dumb Jock" headline*

Let them (The Left) never again complain when our side calls their patriotic credentials into question: with this one repulsive, sickening example alone they have proven where there loyalties lie--and it is not with the United States of America.
Truly disgusting.
4 posted on 04/27/2004 11:48:43 PM PDT by A Jovial Cad ("I had no shoes and I complained, until I saw a man who had no feet.")
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To: JohnHuang2
I went to the link and the bad comments were as described. They are a bunch of animals like Michael Moore.

Good to look once in a while to keep motivated.

5 posted on 04/27/2004 11:58:25 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: JohnHuang2
About that "dumb jock" label. It wouldn't be quite so said if it weren't so obviously false.

Tillman graduated from Arizona State in 3 and a half years, summa cum laude, with a 3.82 GPA. I'll bet that's better academic performance than most of the losers making thse ludicrous comments. And yet his extracurricular activity was, um, varsity football, while for these dorks it was probably playing cards, picking their noses, and lamenting that the football players to sleep with all the hot chicks. Oh, and yet I think he had exactly one girlfriend through college, too---and she went to college in another state.

So someone remind me: who's dumb?

Sources: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/writers/tim_layden/04/23/remembering.tillman/index.html http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/magazine/04/23/tillman.flashback/index.html

6 posted on 04/28/2004 12:08:22 AM PDT by mcg1969
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To: Robert_Paulson2
This "dumb jock" was seriously considering law school. He would have gotten in if he didn't choose service to our country instead.
7 posted on 04/28/2004 12:11:21 AM PDT by nuancey
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To: henderson field
Re-institute the draft and put these people on the front lines.

To do what? Clear minefields?
8 posted on 04/28/2004 12:11:53 AM PDT by jaykay (It's not as bad as you think: It's worse.)
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To: henderson field; river rat; archy
You don't want this scum in the military, sabotaging vehicles and fragging officers. They would be far more trouble than they're worth.

"Draft" them for road crews, to pick up the trash of their "mother earth."

9 posted on 04/28/2004 12:15:43 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: jaykay
It's almost time to take out the trash in this country. It's starting to stink.
10 posted on 04/28/2004 12:16:43 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: JohnHuang2
The only thing Tillman did that was "dumb", was to die for the right of these idiots to spew their filth.

To the rest of us, he was and always will be a true American Hero.
11 posted on 04/28/2004 12:19:44 AM PDT by TheLion
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To: JohnHuang2
"anti-globalist website"

Do they host their site on computers located in their area, on computers built in their area from components produced in their area? No? Oh, I see they are selective about which types of globalism are OK and which aren't.
12 posted on 04/28/2004 12:33:26 AM PDT by farfromhome
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To: mcg1969
...Tillman graduated from Arizona State in 3 and a half years, summa cum laude, with a 3.82 GPA....

Thanks for posting that because I was going to if you hadn't. There was nothing dumb about Tillman. As far as beng a jock goes he had to work hard to get where he did. He wasn't a big guy as football players go but he had heart.
13 posted on 04/28/2004 1:20:42 AM PDT by Sabatier
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To: JohnHuang2

14 posted on 04/28/2004 1:44:24 AM PDT by Jagdgewehr
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To: JohnHuang2
Send them to Cuba or China where they would be appreciated.
15 posted on 04/28/2004 6:26:02 AM PDT by Piquaboy
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To: JohnHuang2
I'll take a Pat Tillman with a good head on his shoulders, a brave strong heart in his chest and a will to fight any day over the bottom feeding gutteral trash trying to trash this wonderful patriot posthumously.
16 posted on 04/28/2004 6:51:53 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (<a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/">Waffles</a>)
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To: JohnHuang2
Why do you think we call them 'Rats? One thing we can be thankful for is that their odious philosophies and culture discourage them from breeding.
17 posted on 04/28/2004 7:49:02 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (This fatwah direct to you from the holy city of Skokie Illinois.)
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To: JohnHuang2
I am not a sports fan and never watch professional sports, but...

I would rather be associated with this "dumb" jock than with a bunch of ignorant bed-wetting treasonous scum:

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself. "
~~ John Stuart Mill ~~

18 posted on 04/28/2004 8:01:56 AM PDT by Publius6961 (.)
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