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Why are Christians losing America?
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Wednesday, April 28, 2004 | David Kupelian

Posted on 04/28/2004 12:01:04 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

Why are Christians losing America?


Posted: August 9, 2002
1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2002 WorldNetDaily.com

"I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth."
– Revelation 3:15-16 KJV

Most Americans call themselves Christians.

Twice they chose as their supreme leader Bill Clinton – a sexual predator and pathological liar who regarded the "religious right" as enemies and radical homosexuals as friends, and who by any meaningful and historical measure was a traitor.

After that, millions of Christians came within a hair's breadth of electing Clinton's partner in crime, Al Gore – another pathological liar, a radical environmentalist who reveres "Gaia" but believes the internal-combustion engine should be outlawed (according to his book, "Earth in the Balance").

Christians have stood on the sidelines during the breathtaking transformation of their once-great Judeo-Christian culture into today's neo-pagan, Sodom-and-Gomorrah-style freak show.

Christians have lost the 30-year war to protect the unborn.

Christians have lost the war for America's schools – which have been scrubbed antiseptically clean of the Christian principles and traditions that once guided those institutions, and are now filled instead with every conceivable form of propaganda and perversion.

Christians have lost their former influence in politics, in the press, in entertainment, in literature – in virtually every major area of life.

And now, Christians are losing the war for their very own institutions – their churches. The clergy sex scandal is the tip of the iceberg. Both the Catholic Church and most of the major Protestant denominations are literally being ripped apart – from within – by double agents who pretend to be "faithful" but actually loathe Christianity's historical precepts and values.

It's a harsh indictment – but hey, the truth hurts.

In his recent book, "Abandonment Theology," author John W. Chalfant describes the precipitous decline of Judeo-Christian influence in law, culture and public policy in America, noting the 1947 Supreme Court decision that invented the modern "separation of church and state" and later decisions that outlawed Bible reading and prayer in the nation's public schools. He writes:

Once God was shown the door, America went into chaos. Scholastic Aptitude Test scores plummeted. Violent crime rocketed upward. The abortion mills did an unprecedented business as they devised ever-more-sadistic ways to kill children before and even during birth. Bill Clinton, elected president of the United States in 1992, aggressively advocated homosexuality, which God calls "abomination." The Abandonment Clergy and their millions of undiscerning followers stood mute while America's sudden loss of greatness became obvious even to the world.

What's this about an "Abandonment Clergy"? Chalfont explains:

Abandonment Theology is a term devised by the author to describe a faith which deceptively pawns itself off as Christianity by operating in the name of Christ, but which produces fruits destructive to America's God-given freedoms. It comprises what is left today of the militant, power-filled, full-dimensional Christian faith of America's Founders after decades of erosion, watering down and trivializing of God's action mandates by America's Abandonment Clergy. It is a "feel good" theology that patronizes Jesus Christ and thereby gains legitimacy, while at the same time produces disobedience to the commands of God and desertion of Christian duty.

Chalfont describes how the "Abandonment Clergy" and their followers have responded to increasingly audacious attacks on Christian America during the past half-century:

Incredibly, this was the ultimate hour for the Abandonment Clergy to see the light of truth. They faced blatant godlessness at every turn. They could have abandoned their own ways and made a comeback to the faith of the Founding Fathers. But what did they do?

They observed the horrible, deteriorating conditions in America, determined that she was headed into rubble just like pagan Rome and that we must be living in the prophesied "last days" and "end times." Therefore, with the end and the "rapture of the church" so apparently near, why fight?

"After all," these clergymen said, "We're in this world, not of it, so to heck with it," and "Compared to eternity we're here only for an instant." They told us that all that really counts is that we "lead as many people as possible to salvation and let our corrupted country continue on its death course."

Faulty Christian teaching, says Chalfant, is the only way to explain why so many well-meaning Christians are paralyzed into inaction:

The Abandonment Clergy and their followers have been teaching, preaching and saturating the media and their church members with the doctrine of surrender and political non-involvement. They are not teaching us to surrender to Christ through obedience to the commandments of God. Rather, they tell us that America is finished, that the collapse of our heritage and our freedoms has been predetermined within a definable near-future time frame and is therefore beyond our control.

Chalfont takes direct aim at those obsessed with their own imminent "rapture":

The legitimate study of eschatology (the future in prophecy) has been converted into a doctrine of futility and surrender by the clergy who, in defiance of Christ's injunction (see Mark 13:32,33), insist upon assigning near-future dates to the "last days," the "rapture of the church" and the "second coming" of Christ. … At the very least the clergy should understand that their "last days" teachings are nothing more than personal speculations. Christ taught that futility of attitude denies the faith and leads to enslavement. He promised great rewards for those who endure to the end in His cause of freedom.

Chalfont is right. But the problem with contemporary Christianity goes way beyond mere political non-involvement. Do we dare take an honest look?

One reason for the multitude of attacks on Christianity is that evil always attacks good – because it is good – because good shines a bright and painful light on the works of darkness. Jesus Himself warned His followers to expect to be persecuted, just as He was persecuted. This is the reason, and a profound one, that Christians offer to explain why they, their values and their institutions are always under attack.

However, there is another, and far more decisive, reason for the spectacular decline of Christianity in our modern era: Christianity today is very different from what it once was.

America is full of people who have accepted the idea that Jesus Christ died for their sins, and that this belief guarantees them a place in Heaven.

Some are very sincere. They are truly mortified at their former sins, genuinely contrite before God and those they have offended, and they grieve over their continuing compulsions. They have awakened from their former life of gross sin, and now want nothing more than to do the will of their Creator – whatever that may be, wherever it may lead them, whatever they may suffer. They take seriously the commandments and principles given by their Savior, and make their life revolve around emulating Him, to the best of their ability. They are, quite literally, followers of Christ – that is, Christians.

On the other hand, there are countless "Christians" who believe they have a ticket to Heaven, and nothing else really matters very much to them. Their attitude can only be described as brazen. They live lives of shallowness and selfishness, of petty emotions and jealousies, of distraction and escape, of ego and pride, and sometimes of gross corruption and treachery – remember, Clinton is a churchgoing "Christian." This version of Christianity, more prevalent than you can imagine, literally justifies and excuses dirty rotten scoundrels. Its adherents, while living it up under the smug delusion that they're "saved," drive other people crazy (and away from real Christianity) with their hypocrisy.

And then there are, of course, millions of "lukewarm" Christians in between these two groups. They go to church and sing songs and sometimes read the Bible, and maybe "try to be a good Christian" – but they're basically clueless. Their marriage is on the rocks and their children are wearing tongue studs. They believe in society's atheistic "experts" and they're addicted to Internet porn.

Some Christians are actually worse off after being "saved" than before. At least before they were "saved," they had a natural respect for, or fear of, ultimate justice – an inborn sense that somehow we all reap what we sow. After being "saved," that's gone for the insincere "Christian." For him or her, belief in Jesus amounts to a "get-out-of-Hell-free" card, a sort of spiritual "diplomatic immunity." It's like the profligate teenage son of an important Arab diplomat who knows he won't be prosecuted under U.S. law while living here, so he drives recklessly, molests women and generally lives it up with impunity. And because the natural and necessary fear of consequences has been unwisely removed from his life, he falls that much more easily to the temptations of his lower nature.

For millions of people, Christianity has become a bumper-sticker religion. Simply by saying, one time, a single phrase – "I accept Jesus Christ as my savior and repent of my sins" – you are guaranteed salvation and eternal life in heaven, no matter how insincere or selfish or shallow your motives for doing so.

Is this the kind of salvation Jesus referred to when He said, "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved." (Matthew 24:13 KJV) Endure to the end? What's with that? I thought this salvation thing was all settled by that altar call back in '89.

Is this what He meant when He said, "If ye keep My commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept My Father's commandments, and abide in His love." (John 15:10) Many Christians don't bother to pay any attention at all to God's commandments. Hey, what the heck difference does it make? I'm already saved!

Is this what Paul referred to when he said, "I die daily"? (1 Cor. 15:31) The apostle's poignant and intensely meaningful reference to the duty of man to give up the life of pride in all its forms, to die to the "carnal mind" – considered central to Christians of past eras – is all but absent from most of today's churches.

Christianity – the deepest, most meaningful and awe-inspiring religion ever, the magnificent driving force behind Western Civilization, and the transcendent hope of mankind's future – has been dumbed down by these types into a comic-book religion. Turn on your radio and listen to some of the pitches: "Do you want to go to Hell – forever? Well, think about this: What if it really is true that Jesus is the Son of God, and that He is the only way to eternal life in Heaven? Do you want to miss out on eternal life? Then why not say yes to Jesus right now, just to make sure? You'll like it – it's a natural high."

Such altar calls are little more than an insurance pitch. "Hey, buy a little extra insurance, then you can go on with your selfish life and be guaranteed a place in Heaven no matter what."

Just repeat the salvation "formula" – like an Eastern mantra – and you're saved. Period.

For this type of Christian, there's no need to do good works, because they're saved by grace, not works. No need to obey God's commands, because they're already saved, so why bother? They don't need to try to help make it a better world, because they're gonna be "raptured" soon and the rest of the suckers who are left behind can sort out the mess.

Is it any wonder the West is dying?

What's missing in all of this, of course, is a love of truth.

"This people draweth nigh unto Me with their mouth, and honoureth Me with their lips; but their heart is far from Me," said Jesus. (Matthew 15:8 KJV)

Truth predates the incarnation of Christ, it predates the Bible. It's the substance of our bond with God. If you have a love of truth, you're just not ever really satisfied with anything else, and you want to know the truth about everything – especially about yourself. If you're wrong about something, you want to know it. If you've been living a lie, you're willing to see it – no matter what the cost.

If you don't have a little bit of this quality, you don't have squat – even if you call yourself a Christian.

To a truth-seeking soul, the story of Christ – not as told by a plastic minister, but as told by someone, anyone, who's real – has an internal reverberation of truth in the listener's soul. It has the quality of a wonderful old story you heard long ago, in your childhood, but had forgotten.

At the core of this life-changing religion is the individual believer's love and appreciation and acceptance and embrace of Christ's sacrifice – the ultimate demonstration of God's love for His wayward children.

But the problem with the way Christianity is "taught" today is that it doesn't require a love of truth. It doesn't require honest introspection, or courage, or self-denial, or patience. The only ingredient it needs is a guilty person who's sick of feeling guilty, who wants relief, wants to feel better about himself and doesn't want to go to Hell. But even the most insincere person wants to feel better about himself, wants relief from guilt, and fears death and what may lie beyond.

So, it's this compartmentalization and trivialization of Christianity – into a mantra of belief – but separated from works, from obedience to God's laws, and even more fundamentally, separated from basic honesty, integrity, love of truth and true repentance, that has ushered in a generation of shallow and ineffectual Christians.

Did you ever wonder why American founders like Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin completely rejected institutional Christianity – what some call "Churchianity"? Maybe even back then too many of the churches were just too pale a reflection of Christ's true message for them to stomach.

The Christian Church in America needs a revival. But it doesn't necessarily need ever-bigger tents with tens of thousands of people swaying back and forth, singing songs, giving speeches and getting pumped up – and then going home and watching television.

America's real revival will happen when those same people go home, go to their room, close the door, take a deep breath – and take a good, long, hard look at themselves in the mirror. And then, quietly and humbly and fervently, they ask the living God for help, for insight, for direction – for salvation.




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To: stainlessbanner; 4ConservativeJustices
there are countless "Christians" who believe they have a ticket to Heaven, and nothing else really matters very much to them. Their attitude can only be described as brazen. They live lives of shallowness and selfishness, of petty emotions and jealousies, of distraction and escape, of ego and pride, and sometimes of gross corruption and treachery – remember, Clinton is a churchgoing "Christian."

LOL! Yours truly really didn't write this, honest =-].

The conservative/Christian fad has run its course. Now it's time to go back to the "good-ol'-days" where liberals and psuedo-conservatives, sorry, neo-cons, are back where they think they belong.

21 posted on 04/28/2004 7:04:57 AM PDT by Ff--150 (John 7:37-38)
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To: JohnHuang2
Because we're too lazy

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion...Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
- John Adams, October 11, 1798

"Have you ever found in history, one single example of a Nation thoroughly corrupted that was afterwards restored to virtue?... And without virtue, there can be no political liberty....Will you tell me how to prevent riches from becoming the effects of temperance and industry? Will you tell me how to prevent luxury from producing effeminacy, intoxication, extravagance, vice and folly?..."
- John Adams, in a letter to Thomas Jefferson

"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here."

"The Bible is worth all other books which have ever been printed."

"Bad men cannot make good citizens. A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience are incompatible with freedom."

"It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains."
- Patrick Henry


22 posted on 04/28/2004 7:08:12 AM PDT by Vision (Always Faithful)
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To: stainlessbanner
#1 reason - destruction of the "family". Christians, and by that I mean real Christians, not CINO's, believe the Bilblical principle that work is rewarded (no welfare), and that FAMILIES care for their elderly, children and widows.

But what we have is the antithesis of that - when most look for handouts (SS, welfare, grants etc) or payouts (litigation or lotteries).

23 posted on 04/28/2004 7:09:35 AM PDT by 4CJ (||) OUR sins put Him on that cross - HIS love for us kept Him there. (||)
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To: JohnHuang2
I appreciate what the article says but, as a Christian, a few things jump out at me. The debate as to whether a Christian should be involved in politics is as old as Christianity itself. Two, this world will always have evil. As hard as we try it will never go away. Three, culture wars are not won through political action but by winning the hearts and minds of the people.

So if one can do some good through politics then great. But, as I read the New Testament, I have a higer calling which is to spread the good news that Jesus Christ was crucified and rose from the dead so that through him I could be saved.

"Everybody today seems to be in such a terrible rush, anxious for greater developments and greater riches and so on, so that children have very little time for their parents. Parents have very little time for each other, and in the home begins the disruption of peace of the world." - Mother Teresa
24 posted on 04/28/2004 7:12:54 AM PDT by Lost Highway (The things of earth will grow strangely dim in the light of his glory and grace.)
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To: JohnHuang2
Matthew 7:21

Not every one that saith unto Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of My Father Which is in heaven.

22. Many will say to ME in that day, 'Lord, Lord,' have we not prophesied in Thy name? and in Thy name have cast out devils? and in Thy name done many wonderful works?'

23 And then will I profess unto them, 'I never knew you: depart from ME, ye that work iniquity.'
25 posted on 04/28/2004 7:18:28 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: qam1
"Not if you were one of those burned on the stake"

Many early Christians were burned at the stake. Emperor Nero used to throw garden parties at which the entertainment and lighting was Christians tied to stakes and set aflame.

Your comprehension of Christianity sounds like it was formed by one reading of "The Crucible" in high school.

26 posted on 04/28/2004 7:22:15 AM PDT by Middle Man ("Stop quoting the law; we have swords."~ Roman General Sulla)
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To: JohnHuang2
>Why are Christians losing America?

It's more like America is losing Christians and this is nothing new. By 1800 Harvard and Yale had become unitarian along with other elite schools. Considering the Calvinist roots of New England that evolution was quite an event. The 19th century saw further drift of Christianity with the advent of socialism and the progressive movements and the idea of creating heaven on earth using government to accomplish the Lord's work came into vogue.

All in all one can not say the church has not been in a healthy state for most of US history. It's been a long downhill slide away from Christ since colonial days and over time the number and effectiveness of the faithful has diminished to where we are today.

27 posted on 04/28/2004 7:26:17 AM PDT by u-89
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To: JohnHuang2
Christians are loosing America for the same reason that Americans are loosing America.

We have allowed extreme, fanatical left-wing elements to monopolize all the major mainstream media, the public school systems and the universities, colleges and entertainment media.

ALL of these elements are capable of propagandizing the minds of the public, especially the young. They produce the attorneys who become the judges and lawyers who, in large part make our laws and constitute our courts.

Unless we become a LESS TOLERANT society, a society which refuses to allow leftists to restructure our nation, this trend will continue.

When was the last time you saw an army of protestors in the street protesting abortions, unconstitutional gun laws, wacko court decisions, or insane school policies? Conservatives are, by their very nature, not proactive and demonstrative. They don't exercise "civil disobedience" to insane laws.

The left has no qualms about disobeying laws they deem inappropriate, defying authority, massing in the streets, monopolizing the media, seizing control of the schools, etc., etc.
28 posted on 04/28/2004 7:30:32 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: JohnHuang2
Obviously, there have been numerous contributing factors to the decline of Christianity but without a doubt the number one reason is the fact that the vast majority of churches have acquired the 501-C3 status from the IRS in order to obtain certain tax exemptions and benefits. In making this proverbial "deal with the devil" churches forfeit their sovereignty because they in effect, become corporations (or artificial entities that have no soul) subject to the dictates of the corresponding IRS regulations.

These regulations are so strict that pastors are effectively muzzled from criticizing fedgov "policies" in any of their sermons, which is why we don't see the fire and brimstone from the pulpit any more. There are no major public condemnations of homosexuality, earth worship, abortion, etc. from the thousands of preachers we have in this country, all we seem to see these days are the milquestoast laden "series of messages" from those supposed church leaders who've become odorless, colorless and tasteless in their quest "not to offend anyone". By using this philosphy, these pastors have effectively removed themselves and their congregations from the battle vs. the demonic, humanistic and socialistic forces the pervade the media, academia and political structures of this country. I highly suggest that these pastors and church elders remind themeselves that they canot serve two masters.




29 posted on 04/28/2004 7:31:59 AM PDT by american spirit
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To: qam1
Yet the even though the younger generations are the most unchristian violent crime rate has declined through this period, as well as The pregnancy rate for unmarried women has continuously declined through the 1990s and the abortion rate dropped by about 25 percent for both married and unmarried women through the 1990s , The teen Pregnancy Rate Reached a Record Low, More Teenagers are saying no to sex and Drug use by teenagers continues to decline.

Christianity and Morality do not correlate, If Christianity vanishes it will have no effect on whether our country is moral or not

Interesting conclusion. I would be interested in seeing how those numbers break down between the two groups. I'd be willing to bet the Christian kids have stopped having sex in much greater numbers while the non-Christian have stayed relatively flat.

30 posted on 04/28/2004 7:40:18 AM PDT by Lost Highway (The things of earth will grow strangely dim in the light of his glory and grace.)
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To: Lost Highway
"The debate as to whether a Christian should be involved in politics is as old as Christianity itself."

The debate is particularly significant in a pluralistic, constitutional republic (such as the U.S.), where there are competing belief systems under a common political umbrella. The consequence of mixing Christianity with politics in such a system is an inevitable watering down of core Christian beliefs.

A fine example of this can be found in the arguments made to the Supreme Court on the meaning of "under God" in the pledge of allegiance. Those supporting the retention of the phrase argued in no uncertain terms that "under God" was an innocuous, and effectively meaningless, phrase that had no religious significance or connotation. By this argument, "under God" was reduced to a cultural catch phrase similar to "have a nice day."

This marginalizing of God for minor (and meaningless) political gain inevitably finds its way into the Church itself - leading to precisely the problems addressed in the article above.

31 posted on 04/28/2004 7:54:20 AM PDT by atlaw
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To: qam1
"Not if you were one of those burned on the stake"

Yeah, that happens weekly still doesn't it?

"...but after Constantine converted the Empire and the more Christian it got the worse off it became."

Yes, let's improve society and worship Baccus!

32 posted on 04/28/2004 8:01:58 AM PDT by Sam's Army
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To: JohnHuang2; rhema; The Big Econ
BTTT
33 posted on 04/28/2004 8:24:46 AM PDT by Caleb1411
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To: JohnHuang2
When my sister was a Junior in high school the school council voted whether or not to allow the Gay and Lesbian Club on its high school campus. My mother called her church (which is the one of the largest churches in the city) and asked what they were planning to do to help get this voted down and the youth pastor told her nothing because they didn't want to "upset anyone".
34 posted on 04/28/2004 8:31:20 AM PDT by TightyRighty
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To: JohnHuang2
JOHN - you are definitely one of my favorite posters on this site and have been for some time. This was very powerful and so true. I am truly scared for this country because I see this everywhere. May God have mercy on me the things I don't do (even more than what I do) and for all of us.
35 posted on 04/28/2004 8:37:17 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: qam1
It's not a coincidence that the branches of Christianity (like Catholics) that accepted evolution are the only ones growing while those who haven't (and come up with ignorant lies about it like Intelligent design) have vanished or are in rapid decline around the world.

Not only is it not a coincidence, it is not true.

36 posted on 04/28/2004 8:52:28 AM PDT by Taliesan (fiction police)
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To: JohnHuang2
One reason for the multitude of attacks on Christianity is that evil always attacks good – because it is good – because good shines a bright and painful light on the works of darkness.

If we think it's bad here.....in North Korea, professing Christians are thrown into concentration camps to endure horrors beyond imagination and used as slave labor until they die or are killed.

Did you ever wonder why American founders like Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin completely rejected institutional Christianity – what some call "Churchianity"? Maybe even back then too many of the churches were just too pale a reflection of Christ's true message for them to stomach.

Interesting and I think many feel this way today. Yet, I don't think things are as totally bleak as this article might leave one to believe. There are shallow Christians-in-name-only, there always have been. But there are also many doing God's work in new and vigorous ways and they should get some credit too.

37 posted on 04/28/2004 8:57:03 AM PDT by ride the whirlwind (We can't let Kerry win - an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.)
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To: Lost Highway
culture wars are not won through political action but by winning the hearts and minds of the people.

Finally, somebody who has read the New Testament.

Anybody who thinks America can become more or less "Christian" by political action or by arguing over moral or cultural issues has YET to understand the Jesus of the gospels. It can't possibly be more clear that:

1. Jesus had NO interest in influencing politics

2. Jesus had NO interest in discussions of moral issues, per se, in isolation from a relationship with Himself. He made occasional comments, but the thrust of his work was invariably to teach people how to live in something He called "the kingdom", which He explicitly said was "not of this world".

3. Jesus had NO interest in reforming society by any method other than a personal devotion to His person and His utterances.

It was His scandalous LACK OF INTEREST in politics and wider culture (plus other things) that got Him in trouble.

The Jesus of the gospels is still a stumbling block to people who think Christians and churches have ANY mandate OTHER than to go into the world and teach individuals to individually respond to Jesus. Anything else has always failed and will fail. Anything else is a distraction from the gospel and is, then, a false gospel.

To the degree that "Christianity" is losing its influence on Western culture, it is simply and solely because there is a great falling away on the part of individual "Christians".

"Political non-involvement" seems to be one of the authors' bad things to be. I can't imagine how anybody could read the New Testament and find ANYTHING OTHER than a clear, willful, systematic, proud "political non-involvement" on the part of Jesus and His followers.

38 posted on 04/28/2004 9:14:22 AM PDT by Taliesan (fiction police)
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To: TightyRighty
I ran into the same type of paralysis when I was trying rally some of my Sunday School classmates to go down to the local school board meeting to speak against GOALS 2000, School to Work and all that other nonsense a few years ago. After I told them what I wanted to do, I got that "deer in the headlights" look from some of them and it was painfully obvious that they were not about to stand up publicly in opposition to these new fedgov programs. That's when it hit me that many of these folks are woefully unprepared to confront these organizations that are slowly de-constructing America. For that, I blame these alleged church leaders who are seemingly more concerned about cash flow than the future of this country.
39 posted on 04/28/2004 9:28:39 AM PDT by american spirit
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To: Liz
Agree completely.

The notions of personal salvation and national sovereignty are historically linked. In the Bible, in Gibbons books on the Fall of Rome, and in the general history of Western Civilization.

I am saved, but am enslaved by sin. The writer leaves out Paul's reference to the 'thorn in his side', and all of the other flaws in the instruments he's chosen to do his will.

Salvation is a journey that starts with a heartfelt declaration.

As it applies to countries and nations, Satan has been placed in control of Earth. He said as much to Jesus in the desert. Christians never really controlled America, but I do believe that as we cleave to Him, He cleaves to us, and vice versa. We are an instrument of His will.

We here in America place our faith in horses and soldiers. We'll see where that actually takes us.
40 posted on 04/28/2004 9:36:40 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Only those who dare truly live - CGA 88 Class Motto)
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