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World War II - over 900 U.S. Dead in Attack on Training Mission April 28, 1944
Facts about WWII ^ | before April 28, 2004 | unknown

Posted on 04/28/2004 10:17:22 PM PDT by BillF

Because of bad planning by American officers and mistakes by the Royal Navy, over 900 American troops were killed during 'Operation Tiger'. 'Tiger' was a practice exercise for D-Day held at Slapton Sands, England. In the early A.M. of April 28 1944, 7 LSTs packed with troops from the U.S. VII corps and escorted by only one outdated Corvette, were attacked by German E-Boats. By the time the shooting had stopped the E-Boats had retired without loss and 946 GIs were dead (four times as many than were killed on Utah beach in the real invasion!!) The incident was hushed up until only recently because of fears that if the truth became known, Anglo-American relations would be damaged. [emphasis added]


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: casualties; worldwarii; ww2; wwii
Sixty years ago today, over 900 brave Americans died in a single battle.

How would today's media react to that story if the President was a Republican when the tragedy occurred? And how would today's Democrats react?

As Americans and British practiced amphibious landings for the invasion of Normandy scheduled for 5 weeks later, German torpedo boats happened upon the American landing crafts. German forces suffered no losses, but 946 Americans were dead.

May God bless all of those American troops who perished that day, as well as those who gave "the last full measure of devotion" from the bridge at Concord in 1775 to the edge of Falija in 2004. Each and every fallen American was someone's son, father, brother, daughter, sister, or mother. Each death was a grievous loss.

That said, the 720 some American dead in Iraq is much lower than I expected. Liberating 25 million people, ousting Saddam, taking over a country the size of California, and giving its people a chance for democracy is an achievement of momentous significance.

The 946 Americans, who died at the hands of the Nazis 60 years ago today, helped lay the foundation for the successful Normandy invasion 5 weeks later.

About 2000 Americans died on June 6, 1944, the first day of the Normandy invasion (includes dead at Utah beach, the other beaches and paratroopers who died further inland). Then again, maybe the libs would not call it a quagmire until the Battle of the Bulge 6 1/2 months later?

The press has failed miserably in its duty to put current events in historical perspective.

When the Iraq invasion was paused due to a sandstorm, the press screamed quagmire. The media said that a U.S. armored column advance towards Baghdad was bogged down, despite the fact that it was as fast, if not faster, than George Patton's stunningly fast WWII tank advances.

And the tragic deaths of over 700 brave Americans, who laid down their lives for our country in Iraqi service, is taken as evidence of policy failure, despite the fact that the deaths are historically low in comparison to any remotely comparable war.

Also, about 6500 Americans drown every year. Our country is paying a heavier price for people's desire to swim and boat than the price we pay, in terms of deaths, for liberating Iraq from a WMD-loving mass murderer.

1 posted on 04/28/2004 10:17:22 PM PDT by BillF
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To: BillF
Quite frankly the American media was all but controlled during WWII so this never would have seen the light of day. The American media today- though not "controlled" officially in Iraq is all but effectively "contained." They rarely leave the Green zone and all seem to "report" from the same rooftop hotel in Baghdad.

But thanks for posting this- I never heard about this engagement before. Sad.
2 posted on 04/28/2004 10:30:05 PM PDT by Burkeman1 ("I said the government can't help you. I didn't say it couldn't hurt you." Chief Wiggam)
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To: kristinn; Angelwood; tgslTakoma; BufordP; staytrue; Jimmy Valentine's brother; RonDog; ...
Submitted for your consideration: the press distort perceptions of their readers and viewers because they don't put events in historical perspective.

They don't need to give history lessons in every story, but they should stop implying or stating that one of the most successful military operations in history is a failure.
3 posted on 04/28/2004 10:34:55 PM PDT by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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To: BillF
To put it in a modern perspective, the antiAmerican War(proPalestinian War) crowd said that there would be 1,000,000 dead Iraqis from this war. That number is in the 10,000s.

The numbers are irrelevant. They complain because they are AntiBush/AntiAmerican socialists. Don't bother trying to convince the leaders of the movement with "facts".

It is much better to reveal the socialist backers of the movement and expose the French/German/Russian business deals with Iraq and the UN Oil For Food BILLION dollar scandal.

Convince the Red Dupes soccer moms who eat up the socialist agitprop. Tell them to "question" (the antiwar) authority.

4 posted on 04/28/2004 10:39:04 PM PDT by weegee (JFinKerry used the words Medals and Ribbons interchangeably before he didn't.)
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To: RaceBannon
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5 posted on 04/28/2004 10:41:47 PM PDT by nutmeg (Why vote for Bush? Imagine Commander in Chief John F’in al-Qerry)
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To: weegee; BillF
Convince the Red Dupes soccer moms who eat up the socialist agitprop. Tell them to "question" (the antiwar) authority.

My recollection could be faulty, but I don't remember anywhere near the amount of anti-war hysteria in the media when klintoon bombed Kosovo.

Hmmmm...wonder why.

6 posted on 04/28/2004 10:43:52 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Get well soon, countrydummy.)
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To: Burkeman1
You're right that many reporters stay in the green zone.

Yet the tone of those reporters and the higher-up reporters, who report on the overall Iraqi situation from perches in the U.S., is overly pessimistic. Often these reporters are falsely saying or implying that the mission is a failure.

They have been looking (hoping?) for a quagmire from the start of the war. Thus, a couple days pause for a sandstorm is said to show that the U.S. is bogged down. The reporters instant gratification mentality means that war becomes a quagmire if the situation is not perfect by the time the reporter returns from a trip to the wine and cheese store in his Volvo.
7 posted on 04/28/2004 10:52:07 PM PDT by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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To: Vigilantcitizen
Some of the antiwar idiots claim to have been against the Kosovo War too (although I distinctly remember some Pacifica/NPR radio broadcasts saying how great Bill Clinton was for pursuing these things even though "he" blew up an embassy).

I never saw any protest rally posters in the book/record stores for Clinton's wars. The proPalestinian war stance (including Rachel Corrie's defense of a terrorist) shows that they aren't "antiWar".

There may have been protests (besides just some Blogging) but the media never reported on ANY of it. Some conservatives asked why was the US engaging in police activity and meals on wheels programs but they never accused the troops of committing attrocities. There was some questioning of why terrorist organizations like the KLA were being reclassified so that the US could provide them aid/assistance. There was some questioning of what made Kosovo an "American" war (but some of those voices are the same that question ANY US involvement in a country not responsible for an attack on the US; sometimes fighting a war abroad keeps us from having to fight a war on our homeland).

Those on the left who say that we have no reason to be in Iraq (even with the resolution violations) claim that we "were not attacked by Iraq". When was this the case in Kosovo?

8 posted on 04/28/2004 11:00:02 PM PDT by weegee (JFinKerry used the words Medals and Ribbons interchangeably before he didn't.)
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To: BillF
This incident has been known for quite sometime. I have read at least two or three accounts of it in different books.
The D-Day invasion was almost called off because of this, the main reason being was that several officers that were killed in that exercise had papers on them with detailed plans of their part of the operation.
Every effort was made to account for every officer who died to recover their bodies with their papers. As I recall they found every body except one. Just when they were considering canceling the invasion the body finally washed ashore somewhere in England, at least that is what I think happened. Someone else may know.
9 posted on 04/28/2004 11:03:12 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: BillF
Honestly- I don't watch the Networks any longer at all. I watch Fox News, MSNBC, and CNN. Fox does seem to be a cheerleader if not DOD mouthpiece- but MSNBC and CNN don't do much different from what I see. Occasionally I detect a negative tone. But I just don't see any real reporting at all in Iraq for the most part. Cushy Green Zone Prima Donnas.

I love how they talk about "hearing" rockets or mortars in hushed tones! I wonder what time the bar opens in their hotel?
10 posted on 04/28/2004 11:13:24 PM PDT by Burkeman1 ("I said the government can't help you. I didn't say it couldn't hurt you." Chief Wiggam)
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To: Captain Peter Blood
Anybody have a file photo of an E-boat. I've been told they were bigger and more heavily armed than US and Brit PT boats.
11 posted on 04/29/2004 1:01:45 AM PDT by STD
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To: weegee; Vigilantcitizen
Some of the antiwar idiots claim to have been against the Kosovo War too . . .

The Communists and true Commie sympathizers did not want us in Kosovo because our enemy was Milosovich, an anti-American Coummunist dictator. Thus, Ramsey Clark was against Kosovo and defended Milosovich.

The anti-Kosovo protests never got traction in the media because a Dem was president. Without media support and without the hard left Dems showing up to support them, the anti-Kosovo pro-Milosovich protestors were left in obscurity.

With the Iraq war, the media did whatever it could to support the protestors. The Washington Post ran puff pieces on various anti-war leaders. Also, because W is GOP, hard left Dems were willing to join with the Commie "anti-war" leaders. Additionally, the pro-Pali pro-terrorist Islamofacists joined with the Commies on Iraq. The Islamofacists sat out the Kosovo protests.

12 posted on 04/29/2004 10:24:35 AM PDT by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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