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Rush was RUDE today!!!!!!
Rush Limbaugh | 4/29/04 | myself

Posted on 04/29/2004 11:58:44 AM PDT by pollywog

I am SO ANGRY at Rush Limbaugh right now!! In his last segment he really bashed and basically made fun of people who have Autism or Asperger's Syndrome. He apparently has not done " his homework" on this one.He read from a article, but I didn't hear who had written it. My granddaughter and husband both suffer from Aspergers.It has been a very difficult journey for our daughter and son in law. Rush will get LOTS of angry emails concerning this!!!


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To: JennysCool
yep
61 posted on 04/29/2004 12:18:32 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: MineralMan
I can't imagine a group he hasn't ridiculed at some point.

Is there a group in existence that isn't worthy of ridicule from time to time, or often?

62 posted on 04/29/2004 12:18:46 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: JennysCool
Only because you dont know any better.
63 posted on 04/29/2004 12:18:58 PM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: Phantom Lord
I think I have that........LOL.
64 posted on 04/29/2004 12:19:14 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: hobbes1
Hey! I've got most of those symptoms, too!
65 posted on 04/29/2004 12:19:30 PM PDT by JennysCool
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To: Solson
I had one student whose parents and therapist were adamant about labelling with Augsberger. He was an unmotivated C student, and didn't seem "different" at all. He was moderately unresponsive to social situations (not laughing when the class laughed, etc). That was about it. He had friends, and liked to laugh and talk with them privately.

Why that called for an entire battery of tests, specialists, and scholastic perks (tesing in separate room with a "helper", more time for tests, more time for homework, two periods per day with specialists, etc) was self-evident... the school got more money, the specialists justified their own existence (while the student body grew by over 200 over 5 years, we got only 1 new teacher position added... and 6 new specialists), and the mother (whom I would've had tested for Munchausen by Proxy, personally) had her hysteria assuaged (temporarily).

The child's grades did not imporove, he said he didn't want to be "different" and put in special classes, and the staff got more paperwork. *sigh*

66 posted on 04/29/2004 12:20:18 PM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Incorrigible
Saying the name of the syndrome over and over to make it sound like "a**-burger

He wasn't reading the article perhaps was he? They say that in the article he read today:

"He still says things that are callous, at least on the surface.

"She'll say something about how terrible her clothes look," Mr. Jorgensen explains. "I'll say, `Yes, honey, those are terrible-looking clothes,' when really she's wanting some affirmation that her clothes don't look terrible."

At those moments, Ms. Jorgensen now tells her husband that he is acting like an "ass burger," a running joke that defuses anger on both sides. But such exchanges have mostly disappeared because Ms. Jorgensen knows that she is unlikely to get what she wants that way.


67 posted on 04/29/2004 12:20:48 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (I am HairOfTheDog and I approved this message.)
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To: Incorrigible
There are however, many adults who fit the category. Usually they're programming computers!
Hey, I resemble that remark!

68 posted on 04/29/2004 12:21:09 PM PDT by DallasMike
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To: Phantom Lord
"Is there a group in existence that isn't worthy of ridicule from time to time, or often?"

Many groups like that. How about kids with cerebral palsy? While they do get ridiculed, I can't imagine why anyone would do that. What about kids with Down's Syndrome? You find them amusing?

Rush should leave illnesses alone. There's plenty for him to ridicule without picking on folks who have problems over which they have no control.
69 posted on 04/29/2004 12:21:09 PM PDT by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: JennysCool
I agree. I grew up without it, and no doubt, i would have been diagnosed ADHD. Too many parents haven't done the research and beleive the doctors that see them for 5 minutes and write a scrip. that's dumb.

I have 4 duaghters, 3 are fine, but one has bigtime ADHD. I know the meds have saved her life. We did over a years rresearch/alt methods before starting low dosage drugs. Without it, she would be DEAD. I thank the shrinks/Pharmo companies for their help.
70 posted on 04/29/2004 12:21:16 PM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (Stay safe in the "sandbox", cuz!)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
I have one child they wanted to zombify, we said no. He's fine and way ahead of grade level. He was always fine, just bored with crappy teaching.

I don't believe the disease exists as they diagnose it. I'm sure the drugs that they prescribe are not the answer if there are kids who need help. I'm sure I won't change your mind.
71 posted on 04/29/2004 12:21:45 PM PDT by RobFromGa (There isn't always an easy path, but there is always a right path.)
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To: Phantom Lord
Sounds like a computer geek to me!

Pretty much. Asperger's and autism are especially frequent in Silicon Valley, where geeks get married and have kids.

72 posted on 04/29/2004 12:21:49 PM PDT by ThinkDifferent
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To: daviddennis
http://www.aspennj.org/plank.html
My Experience with Asperger Syndrome

by Alexander Plank

I am 15. "Having a dash of autism," is how author Uta Frith describes
individuals with Asperger's Syndrome (AS). Twenty to twenty-five people
per 10,000 have AS. I am using my own experiences with having Asperger's
Syndrome to help people better understand me and other people with this
mild form of Autism.

Hans Asperger, an Austrian pediatrician, published the first definition of
Asperger's Syndrome in 1944. He identified a pattern of behavior and
abilities that he saw mostly in boys. The pattern included "a lack of
empathy, little ability to form friendships, one-sided conversation,
intense absorption in a special interest and clumsy movements." (Attwood
p. 11) Asperger called children with AS "little professors"
because of their ability to talk about a subject with such detail.
Asperger died in 1980 before Asperger's Syndrome became widely
recognized. The first person to use the term "Asperger's Syndrome"
in a paper was Lorna Wing. Her paper was published in 1981. Asperger's
work was not internationally recognized until the 1990's.

Asperger's Syndrome is a form of autism. People with AS usually have
normal or above normal IQ's. AS is a pervasive development disorder. It
is described as an inability to understand how to interact socially. Many
adults with Asperger's go without being diagnosed. In fact, an estimated
30-50% of adults with Asperger's have not been diagnosed. People usually
are not diagnosed with Asperger's until school because of social
interactions.

AS is usually diagnosed by a psychiatrist. The first stage in diagnosing
the syndrome is using a scale. In the scale numbers are used to describe
how frequently certain AS characteristics occur in a person. The second
stage is diagnostic assessment, which usually takes an hour or more. In
this second stage, a clinician examines the behavior of the patient. The
clinician also looks at information from parents, teachers, and therapists.
Other skills examined include language, speech, learning ability, and
movement.

People with AS have certain characteristics. The characteristics which I
will discuss below are defined by the American Psychiatric Association in
the fourth edition of its diagnostic manual, Diagnostic and Statistical
Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV).[1] AS comes under the category of
pervasive developmental disorders.
A. Qualitative impairment in social interaction.

Examples of impairment in social interactions include 1) problems with
non-verbal behaviors such as eye contact, facial expression, body posture,
and gestures; 2) failure to develop age-appropriate relationships; 3) lack
of interest in sharing interests or achievements with other people; and 4)
lack of emotional or social reciprocity.

People with AS usually do not talk with people. They talk at people.
Conversations are usually one-sided. People think that AS people are
being rude on purpose. People with AS are not trying to be rude. They do
not realize that they are doing this. They do not understand how people
interact.

Children and adults with Asperger's Syndrome tend to interrupt
frequently. They have a hard time understanding social cues that tell them
when it is their turn. Sometimes they see two people talking about
something they are interested and automatically think its ok to just join
the conversation because they know about the subject of which the people
are talking.

AS children frequently make comments that are very irrelevant. This is
because they blurt out the first thing that comes to their mind. People
think that this is odd, but is important to remember that they do not
understand that it is important to keep some of their thoughts in their
heads.

B. Restricted repetitive and stereotyped patterns of behavior interests and
activities

Examples of this include at least one of the following impairments. 1)
Preoccupation with one or more patterns of interest, which is abnormal in
either intensity or focus. 2) Apparently inflexible adherence to routines,
which are non-functional. 3) Stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerism
(hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements) 4)
preoccupation with parts of objects.

Another characteristic of a person with Asperger's Syndrome is that he or
she frequently gets obsessed with things for a certain amount of time and
then move to another subject. My friends call these obsessions
"phases" because I grow out of them. They who have Asperger's
Syndrome spend all their time doing things to satisfy their interest in
their obsessions. As I mentioned before, they talk at people. This
talking at people is most frequently seen in conversations about the
subject that they are obsessed about.

In addition to being obsessed about something, Children with AS tend to
make rapid movements with parts of their bodies. When I was younger, I
always spun my arms, flapped my hands, and twirled my body.

C. The disturbance causes clinically significant impairment in social,
occupational, or other areas of functioning

The biggest problem for me is that I am misunderstood by teachers and other
people. They think I am purposely being rude, or being lazy (as with my
handwriting). They think that I don't care about things. I do care. I
just don't understand. I am not trying to make people's life hard. In
addition, I misinterpret things that people say and get my feelings hurt.
People don't see a wheelchair or any other visual sign of disability so
they assume nothing is wrong with me.

D. There is no clinically significant general delay in language.
E. There Is no clinically significant delay in development of
age-appropriate skills (other than in social interaction).

Other Things Associated with AS

Another symptom of AS is motor clumsiness. AS people tend to bump into
things more often than other people do. In addition, handwriting can be
terrible. Their handwriting usually consists of mixed cursive/print
letters and mixed upper/lowercase letters. I have such bad handwriting,
that I have to carry around a keyboard and a palm pilot to type most of my
assignments. This "different" handwriting is caused by Dysgraphia.

Some people with Asperger's Syndrome demonstrate extremely odd posture.
For example, I usually sit with my feet on the chair. I sit like that so
much that I don't notice it. In fact, I am sitting on my chair in Indian
style as I write this.

Also, AS causes a person with it to be irritated by certain by certain
sounds, textures, tastes, and even smells. I sometimes get so irritated by
the high-pitched whistle of my computer monitor, that I want to (or even
do) scream. I hate the texture of jeans, which is why I don't own a
single pair of them. Some foods I cant eat at all. Its not always that
they taste bad but sometimes it is the smell of foods that makes me so
irritated. I can't eat Orville Redenbacher microwave popcorn because of
its terrible smell.

Another feature that has to do with hearing is the inability to focus on
something when there is background noise. I sometimes get so distracted
when I read where other people are, that I just read the words and I
don't even know what is happening in the book. I then have to go back to
where I was before I was sidetracked.

There are actually some benefits to this disorder. If you have it, you
usually are very bright. In addition, having it makes you very resistant
to peer pressure. You do not care what others want you to do if you do not
want to do it.

I am fine with having Asperger's Syndrome. If I had a choice of not having it, I wouldn't change. I like who I am and I do not want to change it. I think AS makes me a stronger person.


73 posted on 04/29/2004 12:22:09 PM PDT by ambrose (AP Headline: "Kerry Says His 'Family' Owns SUV, Not He")
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To: Phantom Lord
LOL,, I'm just wondering why people have to write this stuff on FR,, what happened to no vanities?,, why doesn't she just write and email Rush and leave us some bandwith to work with for something important?,, FR ain't for rants and raves!(the obituaries and prayer requests need their own forum room too) The moderators need to put them in their own room unless they deem it news most everyone would like to hear,,,,,the next thing we hear is,, "Rush is making fun of dumba**es!",, my neighbor and wife have the dumba** syndrome and it's not right to make a funny about their plight,,, of course you have to distinquish the difference of just having just a case of the dumba**es or a lifelong affliction,,,,,
74 posted on 04/29/2004 12:22:27 PM PDT by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: JennysCool
Really? Find yourself talking to yourself frequently ?


Not understanding how to communicate to peers, at any normal level....


Unable to make direct eye contact....

Need to have ordinary things broken down into the smallest steps, because you can only assimilate the information literally?


Try teaching a Kid with Aspergers to play sports.....
75 posted on 04/29/2004 12:22:37 PM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: HairOfTheDog
"She'll say something about how terrible her clothes look," Mr. Jorgensen explains. "I'll say, `Yes, honey, those are terrible-looking clothes,' when really she's wanting some affirmation that her clothes don't look terrible."

When my wife asks "do these pants make me look fat/my butt look big/etc..." I respond, "Its not the pants."

I must have this syndrome! Get me some meds!

76 posted on 04/29/2004 12:22:50 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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Just as a thought:

If Rush makes fun of virtually any group at any one time, does anyone know, does he make fun of drug addicts?
77 posted on 04/29/2004 12:23:08 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: HairOfTheDog
I saw the article early today on an autism website and again on another thread here, so I think I'm well informed. Oh, and the fact that I have a daughter with Aspergers.
78 posted on 04/29/2004 12:23:11 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: mtbopfuyn
You obviously haven't heard Neal Boortz cut up ADD on a regular basis.

Sean went easy.

Boortz' ADD test:

Place your child in a room with an X-box, PS2, GameCube, etc. Come back in two hours. If that child is still there, no ADD. It is simply a matter of behavioral adaptation, i.e. that child's brain needs constant, rapid stimulation to keep focus.
79 posted on 04/29/2004 12:23:14 PM PDT by Eagle of Liberty
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To: Phantom Lord
Is there a group in existence that isn't worthy of ridicule from time to time, or often?

Sure there is: drug addicted talk show hosts. :o)

80 posted on 04/29/2004 12:23:24 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day ("He never talked vague, idealistic gas. When He said, 'Be perfect,' He meant it." -- C.S. Lewis)
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