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SHOCKING PICTURES SHOW HOW SOLDIERS TREATED IRAQI PRISONERS IN SADDAM'S JAIL
Drudge Report ^ | Apr 30, 2004 | UK DAILY MAIL

Posted on 04/30/2004 7:17:36 AM PDT by ZULU

TORTURED, ABUSED AND HUMILIATED - SHOCKING PICTURES SHOW HOW SOLDIERS TREATED IRAQI PRISONERS IN SADDAM'S JAIL Fri Apr 30, 2004 UK DAILY MAIL

FOR decades, Saddam Hussein's infamous Abu Ghraib dungeon was the scene of unspeakable cruelty against Iraqi prisoners.

Now the Americans are in charge - but the torture has continued.

Photographs have emerged showing Iraqis being sexually abused and bullied by their U.S. captors.

One, shown on Page One, depicts a hooded prisoner standing on a box with wires attached to his hands. He was wrongly given to believe that if he fell off the box he would be electrocuted.

The sickening pictures, shown across the U. S. on the CBS network, have outraged Americans and are expected to redouble the fury of Iraqis already pursuing a relentless campaign of death and destruction against the occupying forces, ten more of whom died yesterday. In the words of one leading Marine: 'We'll be paid back for this.'

Screened on the authoritative 60 Minutes news programme, the photograpsh showed male and female soldiers laughing, pointing and giving the thumbs-up sign as they humiliated the PoWs.

The sickening snaps, including shots where jeering soldiers pose next to their helpless and, in many cases, naked prisoners, were taken as trophies - souvenirs to show their friends and family back home.

They came to light only when one of the men involved gave a photo to a soldier from another unit, who was so shocked he took it to his commanders.

Television chiefs said they obtained 12 pictures, but said the army had confiscated 'many, many more'. One shows naked Iraqi prisoners stacked in a human pyramid, with a slur written in English on the skin of one.

Others handed to military investigators show naked Iraqis forced to simulate sex acts, a detainee with wires attached to his genitals and a prisoner attacked by a dog.

The photographs were all taken late last year at Abu Ghraib, where U.S. troops were guarding hundreds of prisoners captured during the Iraqi invasion.

They led to criminal charges against six military policemen who are being court martialled for allegedly abusing about 20 Iraqis.

In addition the military has recommended disciplinary action against seven U.S. officers who helped run the prison, including Brigadier General Janis Karpinski, the commander of the 800 Military Police Brigade, who has been suspended from duty.

Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt said last night in Baghdad that the investigation began in January when an American soldier reported the abuse and turned over evidence that included photographs.

'That soldier said, "There are some things going on here that I can't live with".'

Kimmitt said he was 'appalled' at the photographs. 'These are our fellow soldiers, these are the people we work with every day, they represent us, they wear the same uniform as us, and they let their fellow soldiers down.

'If we can't hold ourselves up as an example of how to treat people with dignity and respect, we can't ask that other nations do that to our soldiers,' he told CBS.

One of those facing court martial is Army Reserve Staff Sgt. Chip Frederick. He is charged with maltreatment, assault and indecent acts, striking detainees and ordering detainees to strike each other.

Interviewed by telephone on the 60 Minutes programme, he said he would plead not guilty and added: 'We had no support, no training whatsoever, and I kept asking my chain of command for certain things, rules and regulations, and it just wasn't happening.'

60 Minutes also quoted, however, from an e-mail which Frederick reportedly sent to his family, in which he said of Iraqi prisoners: 'We've had a very high rate with our styles of getting them to break; they usually end up breaking within hours.' Kimmitt insisted only a small minority of soldiers were responsible for the abuse.

'Frankly, I think all of us are disappointed by the actions of the few,' he said. 'Every day we love our soldiers but frankly, some days we're not always proud of our soldiers. It's a small, small minority of people we're talking about here, less than a dozen out of the 150,000 who are serving honourably and proudly over here.

'We live by our values. Some of our soldiers every day die by our values and these acts that you see in these pictures may reflect the actions of individuals but by God it doesn't reflect my army.'

The Baghdad prison scandal is disturbingly reminiscent of how the Americans' cruel treatment of prisoners was revealed at Camp X-Ray in Cuba following the Afghanistan conflict by photos showing the hooded captives chained like animals in open-air cages. They were also paraded in orange jump-suits. With the reasons for invading Iraq under increasing scrutiny, this will cause further damage to America's attempts to persuade the rest of the world it was in the right.

Former Marine Lieutenant Colonel Bill Cowan said: "We went into Iraq to stop things like this from happening and here they are happening under our tutelage.

'We will be paid back for this. These people at some point will be let out. Their families, their friends are going to know.

'If we don't tell this story, these kinds of things will continue, and we'll end up getting paid back 100 or 1,000 times over.'

CBS executives received an appeal from the chairman of the military Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Richard Myers, two weeks ago to hold the story because of the dangers of a backlash against soldiers in Iraq from outraged insurgents.

But it was agreed for the photos to be shown this week because other news outlets had obtained similar pictures.

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To: Middle Man
There is absolutely no evidence of "torture". A little hi-jinx maybe. Big deal.

And I've never been labeled a "fanatic" before. Thanks!
201 posted on 05/03/2004 10:10:26 AM PDT by petercooper (I just discovered my family owns an SUV.)
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To: Howlin
We don't get CBS -- is there anyplace online that one can find the pictures? I've heard so much about them that I would like to see them for myself.

Carolyn

202 posted on 05/04/2004 9:55:57 AM PDT by CDHart
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To: CDHart
You have Freepmail!
203 posted on 05/04/2004 10:01:04 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Truthsayer20
"The army unfortunately has a large number of trailer and ghetto trash folks, especially in the enlisted ranks."

Unfortunately? I don' think so. I know it sounds cold, but if we are able to win the war while limiting our casualties to ghetto scum and white trash, who are unlikely to be of long-term value to society, this is very fortunate indeed.
204 posted on 05/04/2004 1:08:14 PM PDT by jojodamofo
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To: petercooper
"There is absolutely no evidence of 'torture'. A little hi-jinx maybe. Big deal."

My G*d, you're serious.

205 posted on 05/07/2004 12:40:13 PM PDT by Middle Man
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To: ZULU
no blood, no pain, no rape, no chippers, no nothing
206 posted on 05/07/2004 12:42:02 PM PDT by The Wizard (Democrats: enemies of America)
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To: The Wizard
"no blood, no pain, no rape, no chippers, no nothing"

True, but there is plenty of new ammo for the DemonRats who are using the actions of this group of disgraceful dimwits to beat up on Rumsfeld and Bush, and their buddies in Al Quaida are using it to propagandize against our war effort.

These dimwits are a disgrace to their uniform, service and Country and should be severely punished . Period. End of discussion. No "hearings", no "apologies" no kowtowing to Islamic potentates. Its war. Things like this happen in war all the time, and we, unlike our opponents, punish the malefactors. But we should then go on to attack our enemies in Fallujah and Mr. Sadr (or is it Satyr?).

207 posted on 05/07/2004 1:12:33 PM PDT by ZULU
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To: ZULU
Yeah, I feel bad for the prisoners, right, just like how they dragged the burned bodies of those contractors, right? I dont think I will lose any sleep.
208 posted on 05/11/2004 10:58:38 AM PDT by HEET
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To: HEET
" just like how they dragged the burned bodies of those contractors, right?"

What was done to those Americans is also a war crime. We should have told the Fallujans to hand over the guilty parties or we would flatten the city. Unfortunately, we did not, which went a long way to lessening our prestige.
These people respect only power and force.

They also understand a primitive type of justice and that goes to my point here.

What makes Americans different from other people is that while incidents such as what occurred in that jail happen in all wars among all people, including our present opponents, we, like our allies the Brits, don't tolerate it.

Think for a minute. What was the consequences of this inexcusable and idiotic act? It served to provide Al Quaida with propaganda to use against us in Iraq and elsewhere. They will say "See the Americans are no different from Saddam, besides, they are unbelievers." It will provide and continues to provide the enemies of our President and the enemies of our Country in Congress with a cudgel to beat Bush over the head in the present INCREDIBLY tight election fight.

Furthermore, it undermines the morale and self-respect of the overwhelming number of American soldiers who are not like that and never were.

I repeat - they are a disgrace to their flag, to their country, to their uniform and to the branches of the service they represent. They deserve the severest punishment - all of them - from the top person involved down to the lowest ranking soldier.

And Bush should STOP apologizing for this!! It was done, the guilty will be punished and that's it. This is war. These things happen.
209 posted on 05/11/2004 11:45:40 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: Old Sarge
Sarge, I'm with you. Maybe there were a few, but I'm having a hard time believing any of it.

Not when we know that a photo can be doctored! If magazines and papers can put one person's head on another person's body, when half of the photos you see you can't tell whether their authentic or not, and with all the crap floating around by Islamic Muslims, liberals, and the DemocRAT party (trying to divert attention?), I think I want to hear from an American government expert that tells me these photos are real AND these are Iraqi prisoners and not something staged, before I become a little outraged!
210 posted on 05/11/2004 12:01:45 PM PDT by beachn4fun (The prisoners are crying. Now the liberals are crying.Did any of them cry when our guyz were killed?)
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To: ZULU
You are 200% correct.
211 posted on 05/11/2004 12:19:42 PM PDT by k2blader (Some folks should worry less about how conservatives vote and more about how to advance conservatism)
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To: ZULU

212 posted on 05/11/2004 12:58:48 PM PDT by brewcrew
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To: brewcrew
See response # 209.


The cartoon is a funny one and to the point, however, it overlooks the realities of what this band of idiots did.
213 posted on 05/11/2004 1:04:02 PM PDT by ZULU
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