News Corp.'s Rupert Murdoch Warns About European Muslims

NewsMax ^ | 01 May 2004

[MegaSilver]

Media mogul Rupert Murdoch let his hair down during a business conference in Los Angeles this past weekend, warning of rough times ahead.

"There is going to be real trouble coming in Europe, I think," Murdoch said, noting the large Muslim communities living in France.

Calling his observations random thoughts, Murdoch told the Milken Institute's annual three-day Global Conference at the Beverly Hilton Hotel about his fears.

He sees terrorist breeding grounds in France, offered a blunt critique of the European Union, and voiced fears about Saudi Arabia and China, according to Australia's Financial Review.

The topic of discussion was "Creating Prosperity and Stability Amid Ever-Accelerating Change."

Despite the ranking of his co-speakers, including Gary Becker, Nobel Laureate, Economic Sciences; Thomas Hughes, Deutsche Bank's global head of asset management; Sharon Allen, chairman of Deloitte's U.S. board of directors; and Jami Miscik, the CIA's deputy director of intelligence, Murdoch's views held center stage.

With his audience spellbound, Murdoch warned that he believes Europe, particularly France, has failed to properly assimilate large Muslim immigrant populations from Northern Africa and the Middle East, all of which makes Europe more vulnerable to another terrorist attack than the the U.S. is.

Among his other concerns:

"The Muslim populations in France and Germany are much bigger proportionately to what they are in this country [the U.S.] and they have made a very bad job of assimilating them. "The U.S.," he said, has done a "pretty good job of assimilating" its Muslim population and only has "pockets of trouble here and there."

"They [Europe] have major centers of problems that are just boiling up. Paris is surrounded by vast blocks of tens of thousands of apartments - all Muslim, all no-go areas for police and totally lawless. There is more danger of terrorist attacks coming than what we have here," he said.

The European Union has "no political leadership with the will to change." "You have this awful French socialist bureaucracy stuck in Brussels, which is deterring investment in Europe, which is over-regulating every business and everybody."

The outlook for Saudi Arabia is glum, he said, and is casting a dark cloud on the horizon for the world's economy. "I think the most outstanding thing to worry about, if we are talking about urgency, is in the Middle East and it is with Saudi Arabia.

"Saudi Arabia is really the swing. If there was a revolution there it would happen overnight and you might see oil go from $40 to $80 or $90 [a barrel] and that wouldn't simply affect us. It would bring China and Japan and all those countries into a pretty terrible state."

Despite its problems, China is the one bright spot he saw, adding that "the worries that I see that we don't know are the danger of Chinese continuity. I operate a business there."

"We see all of this wonderful expansion around us, but the fact is, it is still a centrally planned economy and historically, centrally planned economies, particularly of that size, do become unmanageable. I'm not pessimistic about it.

"I think they do a pretty brilliant job, but we have to face the facts it is one of the uncertainties. I'm optimistic, at least in the short term, hopefully in the long term, about the Chinese economy."

[counterpunch]

And after the speech, all of Europe, looking confused and bewildered asked, "so what you're saying is we need to be more appeasing?"

[F.J. Mitchell]

I hope Murdoch has enough clout to wake up the apeasement zombies around the globe.

[I still care]

The man gets it. No wonder he is hated.

[traumer]

"There is going to be real trouble coming in Europe, I think "

[Maria S]

"...you might see oil go from $40 to $80 or $90 [a barrel] and that wouldn't simply affect us. It would bring China and Japan and all those countries into a pretty terrible state."

Somebody better start drilling operations in Alaska soon.

[7.62 x 51mm]

When TSHTF in Europe, the carnage is going to be unbelieveable. Unlike here, where 80-100 million of us have lots of guns, and can and will use them proficiently, Europe has been mostly disarmed and is vulnerable. It'll be coming to our streets, too, much as the Muslim Beltway Shooters did, in the fall of '02. Buy more ammo.

[July 4th]

I'll make no secret of my love for European travel. As a student, I'm blessed with lots of time to go when I can, and at times when the costs to get there are supremely cheap. While my friends jet off to the Caribbean on spring break, I'm in Amsterdam or Paris, and usually end up spending less than they do.

When I come back, the question is always the same. "Why do you always go to Europe on vacation?" And my response is always the same.

I want to see it while I can.

France will likely be the first to "fall." Not because of sheer population, no, the Dutch have got the French beat on that one. But simply because in France, the society is becoming so split that once they reach the breaking point, the whole system will collapse.

I've seen a Muslim jeer at a woman for looking too trashy, and I've seen the French police beat the crap out of that very same person for simply making that kind of remark. (It was in the metro - some young Muslim made the remark to a woman, and was promptly thrown up against the wall by the two transit cops who were about 20 feet down the platform and went over to "correct" him.)

So as I tell everyone else, you'd better see Europe now. Because while retirees from the US like spending time in Europe today, 40 years from now when I'm ready to retire, it may not be possible as we know it today.

[davisfh]

I'm very glad to see this posted. It should be a wake-up
call for us, but will it be? I believe that it's already
too late for most of Europe.

[Regulator]

"The U.S.," he said, has done a "pretty good job of assimilating" its Muslim population

Uh, no we haven't. They harbored 19 a**holes who murdered 3000 people (and it could've been 20,000 with a little more bad luck). There's just more of us than them....right now.

[Dark Wing]

You will find this of interest.

[Nebr FAL owner]

Not just drilling operations but R&D efforts into getting the hybrid vehicles into some kind of useful form the ones on the market now aren't really all that great for a family with kids as primary transport . They are even worse for use on farms & ranchs or other types of commercial use .

If "W" were to get the major auto makers in this country together & tell them straight out that they can do this nation as great a service as was done in WWII then hold a press conference announcing a call for a crash R&D program by them it would have one hell of an effect on the economy & on auto buying public.

[nutmeg]

So as I tell everyone else, you'd better see Europe now. Because while retirees from the US like spending time in Europe today, 40 years from now when I'm ready to retire, it may not be possible as we know it today.

Great post, July 4th. As someone who has also spent many vacations in Europe - particularly in France - that's what I tell people also... see Europe ASAP before it's too late. Sad...

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[cyborg]

I can't keep up with these stories anymore.

[SevenofNine]

OH MAN Rackkkk Rupe

Rack itt you know what he know reason is he is Newspaper man that he got his start in the media don't forget he own Aussie Age wire and other in Austrila then go over UK you had Times of London UK Sunday Times Mirror and other and dont' forget Brit cousin of FOx news SKY News

I bet Rupe was there when all Muslum immigrants start happen got radical

HE KNOW Stuff and his Fleet Street Sunday Paper always have thingy on what going in Middle east

[lainde]

bttt

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

Small item the population control enthusiasts forgot to tell people. "We'll be moving gangs of wild-eyed Muslims into your neighborhood." A real triumph of "progress" for the secular humanist totalitarians and zero population growth fanatics.

[Ready4Freddy]

English as a second (or third) language?

[MegaSilver]

I can't keep up with these stories anymore.

Keep up.

UP, I say.

UP!!!!!

IT'S ABOUT OUR GRANDCHILDREN!!!!!

(Says the virgin who doesn't even have a girlfriend...)

[cyborg]

LOL... yep. Someone has to be interested. Sucks I can't run for office.

[MegaSilver]

Small item the population control enthusiasts forgot to tell people. "We'll be moving gangs of wild-eyed Muslims into your neighborhood." A real triumph of "progress" for the secular humanist totalitarians and zero population growth fanatics.

From the Unabomber Manifesto:

15. Leftists tend to hate anything that has an image of being strong, good and successful. They hate America, they hate Western civilization, they hate white males, they hate rationality. The reasons that leftists give for hating the West, etc. clearly do not correspond with their real motives. They SAY they hate the West because it is warlike, imperialistic, sexist, ethnocentric and so forth, but where these same faults appear in socialist countries or in primitive cultures, the leftist finds excuses for them, or at best he GRUDGINGLY admits that they exist; whereas he ENTHUSIASTICALLY points out (and often greatly exaggerates) these faults where they appear in Western civilization. Thus it is clear that these faults are not the leftist's real motive for hating America and the West. He hates America and the West because they are strong and successful.

Personally, I think it's all part of their plot. Now, they have a group of Islamist fanatics who hate the West as much as they do. No wonder they get along so well.

[Regulator]

Hi folks. I thought you might like to read this little article which has bearing on the current thread and previous threads that we have all commented on:

Derbyshire on Immigration to England

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

Western liberals, secular humanists, and left-wing fanatics who exhibit a marked and hysterical preoccupation with expressing hatred of Western culture, Christianity, and the customs and manners of traditional, conventional society,
including normal, matrimonial sexuality as odd as that sounds, tend to swing wildly into all sorts of irrationality and utter madness. They share that with these Islamo-fascist terrorists. Both groups also tend towards a sort of tribal primitivism focused around resentment and hatred. Perhaps they deserve each other.

[MegaSilver]

Western liberals, secular humanists, and left-wing fanatics who exhibit a marked and hysterical preoccupation with expressing hatred of Western culture, Christianity, and the customs and manners of traditional, conventional society, including normal, matrimonial sexuality as odd as that sounds, tend to swing wildly into all sorts of irrationality and utter madness. They share that with these Islamo-fascist terrorists. Both groups also tend towards a sort of tribal primitivism focused around resentment and hatred. Perhaps they deserve each other.

I just wish the Liberals would emigrate to the Middle East rather than the Islamists immigrating to the West.

[philosofy123]

We need to think outside the box. Just simply take a depp breath, and reflect on the ENTIRE problem.

After the Iranian revolution, the export of radical Islam permeated every damn Moslem country on earth. That was also helped by billions of petrodollars from Saudi Arabia, and fanatical jihad cells in every mosque. At this point the Moslem world has the holy mission of "us against them" attitude. Under such cover, the entire Moslem world is rapidly deteriorating into the sixth century barbarian mode. To be fair, the conservative Christians and Jews are not too far behind them in fanatical ideologies – please don’t get very defensive, and read through. What this world is in need, at this confusing time is moderation, tolerance, and coexistence. This has to be the constant message from every church, mosque, and synagogue. Yes, there is no hate preaching in “most” churches, but to be accepted, and respected, you must be able to have self criticism.

Having said so, I am not naive to think that Islam is a religion of peace, or to think that Islam does not have a hidden agenda of dominating the world. As a matter of fact, Christianity has similar mission (to share Christ with every human on earth - i.e. witnessing)! Judaism to a lesser extent is not interested in converting people but interested in "greater Israel". The difference is the use of coersive force to achieve converts!

Religions are very similar to sport teams; if fans become fanatics, then the whole sport become too dangerous, and the game becomes unsafe. During the heat of a game, as fans are drinking, and their testosterone is flowing, if the leaders (like the coaches) started up a fight, the stadium will blow up in violence. To assure civility, there are rules of sportsmanship. That is essentially what we are missing in religions. As a matter of fact this idea is not new, the communists had a way to deal with it, they abolished ALL religions! The simple reason we are missing such rules in the religion realm today is because we are supposed to be “politically correct”, and respect other people faiths. Our leaders MUST state to the population of the earth: WE RESPECT ALL RELIGIONS AS LONG AS THEY DON'T PREACH HATE AND VIOLANCE AGAINST OTHERS. If a religion has such scriptures in its text, it should be swept under the carpet, and never become the dominant verses in any sermon in any prayer or gathering. Such consensus is not too difficult to attain in a UN forum or other international gathering of political and religion leaders. That is so simple, if we can shut the ACLU, and the "diversity" knee-jerk liberals up. If the Moslems refused to comply, they will be risking the isolation from the rest of the world.

[Regulator]

I just wish the Liberals would emigrate to the Middle East rather than the Islamists immigrating to the West

Imagine the looks on their faces when they realize that they might never get to come home to indoor plumbing. Or to be around people who let them get away with blathering their BS.

[MegaSilver]

What this world is in need, at this confusing time is moderation, tolerance, and coexistence.

This is the popular academic orthodoxy of our time. Unfortunately, I believe it to be gravely mistaken.

You can call for "moderation," "tolerance," and "coexistence" all you want. It will not change the fact that a) ordinary citizens feel that they are being invaded, b) Islam draws no distinction between religion and politics, and c) at the end of the day, people in the West just want to be left alone to live life the way they grew up thinking they were going to be able to.

[philosofy123]

If people in the West want to be left alone, then, they must shut their doors to Moslem immigrants, and deport the unruly, un-assimilating Moslems.

If you read my comments, you find that our leaders has failed in the past thirt years to recognize the danger of the radical Islamic movement in the world. The world leaders must stop pussyfooting around this religion thing; they must have a forum on the accepted behaviors of people, and the danger of preaching hate. Without admitting that religions can incite violence, and that preachers of ALL faiths MUST handle their job responsibly, we will continue to chase our tails for many generations to come.

We can sit on our hands and say well, the Moslems will never listen, or we can invite them in front of the rest of the world, and challenge them to reduce the decible of hate a notch or two.

[MegaSilver]

If people in the West want to be left alone, then, they must shut their doors to Moslem immigrants, and deport the unruly, un-assimilating Moslems.

I agree. Your comment about "tolerance" and "moderation" didn't seem to jibe with that, but I think I get what you were trying to say now.

We can sit on our hands and say well, the Moslems will never listen, or we can invite them in front of the rest of the world, and challenge them to reduce the decible of hate a notch or two.

Personally, I still think that as long as Islam exists, the rest of the world will be in at least some degree of danger.

[philosofy123]

"We can sit on our hands and say well, the Moslems will never listen, or we can invite them in front of the rest of the world, and challenge them to reduce the decible of hate a notch or two."

Personally, I still think that as long as Islam exists, the rest of the world will be in at least some degree of danger.

In other words, let us sit on our hands and imagine that these are subhuman with no rational. I say, even if they are subhuman, at least by having an international forum on faiths and human behaviors, we will expose them for what they are. You know, a ggod part of this world are not Christian or Moslems (Hindues, and Budhists). It would be nice to triangulate the Moslems out as subhumans for the rest of the world to see.

[MegaSilver]

In other words, let us sit on our hands and imagine that these are subhuman with no rational. I say, even if they are subhuman, at least by having an international forum on faiths and human behaviors, we will expose them for what they are. You know, a ggod part of this world are not Christian or Moslems (Hindues, and Budhists). It would be nice to triangulate the Moslems out as subhumans for the rest of the world to see.

I don't think Muslims are subhuman, not by any stretch. But Islam is a religion that doesn't draw distinctions between religion and politics. I suspect most Muslims don't realize the implications of this. If they did, would they be horrified? Quite possibly.

[philosofy123]

"But Islam is a religion that doesn't draw distinctions between religion and politics."

That is what the clerics wants to convince their followers to believe. Its a job securiy and a power grab for them. Clerics are employee of the states in Moslem nations. They are forbidden from fomenting violence against the rulers. Hence, these same rulers CAN forbid them from fomenting violence against the infidels.

[Bigg Red]

I just wish the Liberals would emigrate to the Middle East rather than the Islamists immigrating to the West

Imagine the looks on their faces when they realize that they might never get to come home to indoor plumbing. Or to be around people who let them get away with blathering their BS.

**
Thank you. I am getting a rather pleasant feeling imagining Barbra Streisand being punishedby the virtue police, or whatever they're called, and being forced to cover up in a burka

[Regulator]

I am getting a rather pleasant feeling imagining Barbra Streisand being punishedby the virtue police

Oh God...that is a funny thought. Dragged away by two crop wielding religious cops...she'd be screaming bloody murder "my rights! my rights!" and they'd be saying "you don't have any here"....too funny.

[MegaSilver]

That is what the clerics wants to convince their followers to believe. Its a job securiy and a power grab for them. Clerics are employee of the states in Moslem nations. They are forbidden from fomenting violence against the rulers. Hence, these same rulers CAN forbid them from fomenting violence against the infidels.

And the problem is that as long as Islam is around, there will be no shortage of clerics like that. Why? Because such doctrines are rooted in the founding and the scriptures of Islam. Read a few verses of the Qu'ran and you'll see what I mean.

[skeeter]

There's not much wrong in Derbyshire's analysis.