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Police kill dog while stopping at wrong house on alarm call
Milwaukee Sentinel Journal ^ | April 30, 2004 | REID J. EPSTEIN

Posted on 05/03/2004 10:31:50 AM PDT by decimon

Muskego - Police officers responding to a burglar alarm at the wrong house shot and killed a 100-pound family dog that bounded toward them, the dog's owner said Friday. Muskego

At his mother's home Tuesday afternoon, Jacob Davida was working on his computer when he heard a knock at the front door.

With Bongo, the family's Mastiff, St. Bernard and German shepherd mix at his side, Davida opened the door to find police officers with guns drawn.

As usual, Bongo, 9, was without a leash because he didn't run off and never harmed anyone, Davida said. Bongo, with golden fur and a block-shaped head, was best friend to Davida and his four siblings. But on this day, the dog's inquisitive nature marked his downfall.

"My dog ran up from behind me toward the cop because he's a curious dog," said Davida, 24, of Madison. "I was screaming at the top of my lungs for them to stop shooting, for them to stop."

But his screams went for naught. The dog's days of walks in the park and canoe trips ended with a shot through his neck, Davida said.

"The cop just started shooting," he said. "The first bullet hit the ground close to me. The second shot hit the driveway. Then he shot and killed my dog right in front of me."

After shooting Bongo, Davida said, police officers told him that they were at his house to investigate a burglar alarm. The house, west of Big Muskego Lake, has no such alarm.

"They put that over the radio, and it came back that they had the wrong address," Davida said. "It turned out they were at the wrong place. Most of the cops left at that point to check out the actual burglary."

Muskego police Sgt. David Constantineau confirmed Friday that officers shot a dog Tuesday afternoon but said he would not release any details.

"It's under investigation," he said.

Davida finally went back to his computer programming job in Madison on Friday, but said the horror of watching his dog's death left him stricken.

"Retelling the story, I kind of shake," Davida said. "I had to break the news to each of my family members. I can't get the scene out of my head. It just plays over and over."

Bongo is to be buried on a farm in Fall River in Columbia County owned by Davida's sister and her husband.

As it turned out, the alarm came from the next-door neighbor's house. The neighbor, Robert Anderson, said nothing was taken, but the back and garage doors were left open.

To make matters worse, Davida watched the would-be burglar escape but, terrified after seeing his dog shot, didn't say anything to police.

"I saw the guy leave while the cops were interrogating me," he said. "I just assumed it was another police officer."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: badcops; bang; barneyfief; chiefwiggum; doggieping; donutwatch; keystonecops; leo; pigs; triggerhappy
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To: Bikers4Bush
money is not good enough.

not good enough by MILES.

if a cop came onto my land, in error, and subsequently killed MY dog, I would consider the self-performed unanaesthetised ritual amputation of the trigger finger he used to fire the gun to be a personal and humiliating penance worthy of consideration.
141 posted on 05/03/2004 4:06:14 PM PDT by King Prout (poets and philosophers should NEVER pretend to Engineering... especially SOCIAL Engineering!)
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To: cinFLA
The dog did not attack anyone.

Right. He was shot before he could attack the cop.

Wow.

People like you are scary.

Nothing like mowing down any "potential threat" before it might do anything wrong, eh?

142 posted on 05/03/2004 4:10:18 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: cinFLA
The one in the report wasn't attacking anyone.

Source?

LOL!

My source? The article!

I cheated, though. I read it.

143 posted on 05/03/2004 4:11:23 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: johnfrink
you have heard of Ruby Ridge, yes?
144 posted on 05/03/2004 4:11:56 PM PDT by King Prout (poets and philosophers should NEVER pretend to Engineering... especially SOCIAL Engineering!)
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To: cinFLA; All
It is not trespassing.

The hell it's not.

If your neighbor calls me, and asks me to take the key out from the Welcome mat, enter his house, pick up his wallet, and bring it to his office for him -- and I screw up, and enter your house, and rummage around until I find your wallet, am I trespassing?

Yes or no.

145 posted on 05/03/2004 4:13:59 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: cinFLA
The difference is that that dog was not running toward you. If it had, I bet you would have fired at least three shots.

You are a particularly obnoxious, arrogant sort, aren't you.

What nerve to tell me how I would have reacted and what I would have done. What unmitigated gall!

A few hints:

* You were not there.
* You do not know me.
* You are not me.
* You should do us both a favor, and stay the hell off my land. :)

146 posted on 05/03/2004 4:16:17 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: ought-six
that's the difference between "peace oficers" and "law-enforcement officers"
147 posted on 05/03/2004 4:17:22 PM PDT by King Prout (poets and philosophers should NEVER pretend to Engineering... especially SOCIAL Engineering!)
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To: Don Joe
You wouldn't have shot even if the dog attacked you? Why, then, did you point the gun at it? To scare it off?
148 posted on 05/03/2004 4:18:18 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: Don Joe
If your neighbor calls me, and asks me to take the key out from the Welcome mat, enter his house, pick up his wallet, and bring it to his office for him -- and I screw up, and enter your house, and rummage around until I find your wallet, am I trespassing?

Where in the story did it say that the cop did all this?

149 posted on 05/03/2004 4:19:13 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA
You wouldn't have shot even if the dog attacked you? Why, then, did you point the gun at it? To scare it off?

You persist in the logical fallacy that asserts that the dog attacked someone. The dog did not attack anyone.

I explained why I drew down on the dog. If you have any comprension problems, I suggest you re-read my post until you can grasp what I said. It's all there, just keep reading it until it clicks for you.

150 posted on 05/03/2004 4:21:16 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: cinFLA
Where in the story did it say that the cop did all this?

Gadzooks, you do have a reading comprehension problem!

Answer the question. But first, take a surf over to http://m-w.com/ and look up "metaphor" and "simile", OK?

151 posted on 05/03/2004 4:23:52 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: Don Joe
What I suspect is that by the second round, the shooter had that "oh, sh!t" moment -- realizing what was really going on -- but wasn't able to stop his reflexive firing until one more round had been fired.

You are a particularly obnoxious, arrogant sort, aren't you.

What nerve to tell me how he should have reacted and what he would have done. What unmitigated gall!

A few hints:

* You were not there.
* You do not know him.
* You are not him.

152 posted on 05/03/2004 4:23:56 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: Don Joe
I explained why I drew down on the dog.

But it makes no sense to draw down on a dog if you will not shoot it if it comes at you.

153 posted on 05/03/2004 4:25:18 PM PDT by cinFLA
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To: Don Joe
The man who you seem so determined to defend can't keep his story straight. To respond to your question, I reread the story and noted that first he claimed that one cop fired three shots and then in the next sentence he claimed that "they" wouldn't stop shooting. Which is it?

I would suggest that three shots is evidence that the dog was aggressive. First, if there were three shooters, each made an assessment that the dog was attacking. Second, if there was only one shooter, the dog was not deterred by the earlier shots. If the dog was only being friendly, such a hostile response would have immediately backed the dog off unless it had aggressive intentions.

Why do I get the funny feeling that the neighbors are happy that the dog was shot? Oh, that's right, our man in the story said that the dog wasn't mean. Gee, how many times has we heard that in the dog mauling stories?

I'm not trying to defend the police but I am amazed how quickly people give credence to this sob story.
154 posted on 05/03/2004 4:32:14 PM PDT by CommerceComet
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To: cinFLA

You are a particularly obnoxious, arrogant sort, aren't you.

What nerve to tell me how he should have reacted and what he would have done. What unmitigated gall!

A few hints:

* You were not there.
* You do not know him.
* You are not him.

Wrong.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. But very illuminating in terms of what makes you tick.

You see, Mr. Statist, I am not a police officer, and I am not placed in a position of enforcing the law, and I am not placed in a position where I am, as part of my job, required to potentially take a life.

There are certain basic obligations of those in that position. It seems pretty obvious to me from reading the article that the people involved in this clstrfk were derelict in those duties.

Therefore, I don't have to "know him" etc. to know that he violated the trust placed in him by those he putatively serves.

That must be quite the novel concept to you -- the idea that the police serve the public, rather than "manage" us.

You see, this country is not a "police state". As disappointing to you as that epiphany must be, I'd suggest trying to wrap your mind around the idea. Who knows? Maybe it'll grow on ya. Give it some time.

155 posted on 05/03/2004 4:32:23 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: cinFLA
But it makes no sense to draw down on a dog if you will not shoot it if it comes at you.

It is becoming increasingly obvious that you should try your best to stay away from dogs, guns, and people.

At least, that is, until you're able to understand any of them.

156 posted on 05/03/2004 4:34:08 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: decimon
These "cops shoot dog" stories come out several times each year. So do the ones about cops killing innocent people due to being at the wrong address.

They both make me sick. I could understand if the dog was menacing or without an owner....but this was not the case. Also, I have seen another shooting dog story....it was a puppy. I think the cops may deal with so many really mean dogs from the bad neighborhoods, that they assume all dogs are gonna bite them.

157 posted on 05/03/2004 4:43:39 PM PDT by Feiny (This post ain't for everybody, just the sexy freepers.)
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To: CommerceComet
The man who you seem so determined to defend can't keep his story straight. To respond to your question, I reread the story and noted that first he claimed that one cop fired three shots and then in the next sentence he claimed that "they" wouldn't stop shooting. Which is it?

Huh?

I don't respond to incoherent babble. WTF are you trying to say? Get back with me when you figure it out, eh? I see no contradiction in the guy's statements -- especially, given, as they were, in the context of having just had his world rocked to bits by some trigger-happy nutcase who invaded his home to execute his dog (and almost kill him in the process).

I would suggest that three shots is evidence that the dog was aggressive.

LOL!

So, if you come to my house, and I don't like the look on your face, can I take three shots at you, and then claim that the fact that I fired three times is proof that you were aggressive?

LOL!

Good f'n grief. If anything, it's evidence that the shooter was aggressive.

First, if there were three shooters, each made an assessment that the dog was attacking. Second, if there was only one shooter, the dog was not deterred by the earlier shots. If the dog was only being friendly, such a hostile response would have immediately backed the dog off unless it had aggressive intentions.

You missed one. The obvious one. You missed, "if the ONE shooter zoned out, and fired three times in rapid succession, in "keep firing until the target is neutralized" mode -- according to current paramiltary police indoctrination doctrine.

Why do I get the funny feeling that the neighbors are happy that the dog was shot?

Because you're delusional? Or because your argument is so entirely bereft of merit, that you've resorted to Democrat-debate-points, making up stuff as you go?

Oh, that's right, our man in the story said that the dog wasn't mean. Gee, how many times has we heard that in the dog mauling stories?

Cute. I guess no one wins with you, eh? Damned if he did, damned if he didn't. If he said "the dog bites", you'd have said "ahah!", and if he says "the dog doesn't bite", you'd go "yeah, right, tell me another one".

You've just argued yourself right out of the argument. I don't debate with people who play those type of routines.

I'm not trying to defend the police but I am amazed how quickly people give credence to this sob story.

I'm wondering exactly how much sympathy you'll get if you somehow encounter a similar situation in your own life.

I'm putting my money on a hearty round of "LMAO!" if YOU come crawling in with "a sob story" of your own.

158 posted on 05/03/2004 4:45:21 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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To: ought-six
"Unfortunately, most cops these days are irresponsible, hot-headed punks with an attitude. They weren't always like this. They used to be respected, and were a welcom esight in the community because they respected the law-abiding citizens. Not any more. They are becoming more and more like JBTs, if you ask me. "

It is the case in my area for many of the officers. They drive around with a cocky look on their face. My husband looks like Vic Mackey on The Shield. Except, he is more muscular and has tattoos. He is very respectful of officers (his brother is one) and used to teach self defense tactics at the police academy. He has had numerous encounters with the police in the last few years. They drive real slow next to him, give him "the long hard cop look" trying too intimidate him. They have circled the block twice while he was out front talking to neighbors (3 people with 3 dogs playing). The last one was the other day. He was walking home from the grocery store & carrying several bags of food. The walk light was green to cross. A police officer in his vehicle was approaching the light, saw him, glared at him & then sped up quickly & came to a stop 2 inches from his body. Then, gave him a look like "What the F#@k are you gonna do about it?". He was so angry, but he knew not to react. I told him that he should have got the badge number & name of officer as we have met the chief of police several times and see him at the gym. Next time he plans to do just that....and sadly we know there will be a next time. These a-holes are not the norm, but their numbers seem to be growing.

159 posted on 05/03/2004 4:58:00 PM PDT by Feiny (This post ain't for everybody, just the sexy freepers.)
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A random comment:

There *is* a "thin blue line" that stands between civil society and chaos. Any time that line is stretched to the breaking point, i.e., "when the lights go out", or an unpopular jury decision is delivered, that truth becomes all too obvious.

That said, events like those described in this article -- events which are becoming all too common -- serve NOT to "protect" anyone, but only to *alienate* those on the right side of the "thin blue line".

This does not bode well for our society.
160 posted on 05/03/2004 4:58:42 PM PDT by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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