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Defund Ted Rall (Vanity)
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| May 4, 2004
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Posted on 05/04/2004 2:21:18 PM PDT by pogo101
Two things I did to respond to Ted Rall's hateful political toon that grave-pisses on Pat Tillman. Maybe some of you will respond in a similar manner, if you wish:
1. Yesterday, I did as suggested by Andrew Sullivan by writing politely but firmly to the syndicate that publishes Rall's acidic spewings:
PROTEST RALL: The hate-monger is syndicated by Universal Press Syndicate. It's not censorship or "McCarthyism" for people to complain about any syndicate that peddles the poison that Rall lives off. Today's disgusting diatribe against Pat Tillman is so vile, so utterly devoid of any motive or argument but personal malice and hatred, some form of protest is surely merited. Email the vice-president for print syndication, Lee Salem, and tell him what you think of Rall's cartoon. Please, please, be civil. His email is lsalem@amuniversal.com. He needs to hear from you.
2. Just now, I wrote this email Letter To The Editor of "Men's Health" magazine, a monthly that publishes a non-political (well, except for some light gender politics) strip by Rall called "The Testosterone Diaries." I have never found this strip offensive, although it is funny only about 40% of the time. But the point is, Do I really want to give money to a publication that passes on a chunk of that money to Ted Rall? No way, Jose. Here's what I wrote:
Re: Dump the Ted Rall 'Toon, Or I Dump M.H.
To the Editor:
As you may know, MH's "Testosterone Diaries" cartoonist, Ted Rall, recently vented his proverbial bladder on the grave of soldier Pat Tillman in the following cartoon:
http://images.ucomics.com/comics/trall/2004/trall040503.gif
Yes, yes: I know MH doesn't endorse Rall's political views just because it publishes his "Diaries."
But consider. Rall is an outrageous bigot who has lampooned a KIA soldier for having been motivated to join the Army by his desire to "get to kill Arabs."
Does MH really need to be paying this guy money? Even if it's for a non-political strip? Of course not.
And I refuse to patronize any publication that pays Rall money. Currently, that means MH.
So, bottom line: MH dumps Rall -- and publishes its decision to do so -- or I dump MH. It's really that simple.
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Not really a FReeping opportunity, but a cousin of such. PLEASE keep any emails, etc. POLITE!
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posted on
05/04/2004 2:21:19 PM PDT
by
pogo101
To: pogo101
Rall's on oreilly now! GOD! He's such a smug smartass!
2
posted on
05/04/2004 5:05:21 PM PDT
by
Monty22
To: Monty22
Thanks for the heads-up!
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posted on
05/04/2004 5:11:16 PM PDT
by
pogo101
To: Monty22
Particularly interested in whether/how Rall defends his 'toon's position that Tillman couldn't wait "to get to kill Arabs."
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posted on
05/04/2004 5:12:06 PM PDT
by
pogo101
To: pogo101
Mr. Rall needs to ride shotgun with a liquored-up Ted Kennedy as he navigates the Edgartown Bridge in Chappaquiddick.....over and over and over again.
To: pogo101
Here's mine
Dear Mr. Zinczenko:
Your magazine carries a cartoon written by Ted Rall. Mr. Rall has insulted the memory of Pat Tillman, a true American hero. While, in a capitalist society, with the protection of the First Amendment, people can say what they please, there are consequences. If you continue to publish anything produced by this anti-American nonentity, I will make it my serious business to boycott your magazine and its advertisers, and to spread the word to alert like-minded Americans to do likeswise.
Thank you,
(signature)
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posted on
05/04/2004 5:20:14 PM PDT
by
TruthShallSetYouFree
(Hey, Kerry! You don't need no stinkin' badges. I mean medals. I mean ribbons.)
To: pogo101
Is "defund" a polite term for tar and feather?
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posted on
05/04/2004 6:03:31 PM PDT
by
Mr. Silverback
(Terri Schiavo deserves to have her wishes followed--grant her a divorce!)
To: TruthShallSetYouFree
I really am interested in "Men's Health"'s response to such emails as ours. The best I'm really hoping for is a commitment not to RENEW their contract; canceling would probably not relieve the magazine of its obligation to pay Rall. *shrug* We'll see.
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posted on
05/04/2004 6:40:26 PM PDT
by
pogo101
To: pogo101
So, bottom line: MH dumps Rall -- and publishes its decision to do so -- or I dump MH. It's really that simple. Maybe you should be a little more aggressive, like: "I have dumped MH."
Trust me, you won't be missing too much. I read the ones my husband leaves in the bathroom. The advice on how to please a woman, are as bad as their cartoons.
Don't you believe for a minute that their editor didn't see that cartoon before it was published. He can hide behind whatever policy he would like, but it makes him worse for propagating Rall's treason and disrespect to the Tillman Family.
Maybe they should feature an article on how to grow a pair of... oh, never mind. It would be too complicated for their editor and Rall. As far as I am concerned, both are zeroes.
To: pogo101
I just fired this one off to the Star-Ledger (Newark, NJ):
Dear Sirs:
I have been a subscriber to your newspaper for over twenty years. After seeing, on the internet, Ted Rall's horrendous cartoon mocking the memory of Pat Tillman, I have learned that Rall's "work" is sometimes featured on your editorial page. As a conservative, I seldom agree with the spirit of most of your editorials, cartoon or otherwise, but have been willing to put up with your left-wing philosophy because, overall, The Star-Ledger is an entertaining and informative newspaper. But Rall has crossed the boundary of political speech and has ventured into pure, hateful, despicable character assassination. I won't tell you how to run your newspaper, but I will tell you this: the very next time I see a cartoon with his signature on it, I am going to cancel my subscription and alert as many of my friends and acquaintances as is humanly possible as to the reason I did so.
(signature)
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posted on
05/04/2004 8:52:58 PM PDT
by
TruthShallSetYouFree
(Hey, Kerry! You don't need no stinkin' badges. I mean medals. I mean ribbons.)
To: World'sGoneInsane
Well, one asterisk: MH doesn't run Rall's POLITICAL panels. Just "The Testosterone Diaries."
If they (MH) DID run his political panels, and had run THIS one in particular, then yes, I'd ALREADY be gone, not just threatening to be!
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posted on
05/04/2004 9:14:49 PM PDT
by
pogo101
To: pogo101
Rall has sure hit bottom.
I liked him when he was cartooning for Maximum Rock & Roll, and I liked his "News of the 'Stans" radio show. But once he started trying to "Gain Credibility" as a leftist, he went into a screaming dive.
Looks like he's finally augered in...
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posted on
05/04/2004 11:25:28 PM PDT
by
fire_eye
(Socialism is the opiate of academia.)
To: Monty22
TED RALL'S CARTOON ON PAT TILLMAN...
Rall is an absolute SKUNK.
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posted on
05/04/2004 11:29:51 PM PDT
by
Smartass
( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2004 - THE BEST GET BETTER)
To: Smartass
And his artistic skill is very poor. A 10 year old could draw as well or better.
To: pogo101
I saw Rall on O'Really? last night. He is a despicable creature.
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posted on
05/05/2004 4:05:20 AM PDT
by
sauropod
("I am Locutus of Borg. Resistance is futile. You will service US.")
To: pogo101
Thanks. I'm a long time subscriber (~6 years) to Men's Health and will compose a letter with the same notice.
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posted on
05/05/2004 10:19:07 AM PDT
by
Rockitz
(After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
To: pogo101
I freeped MH, told 'em I was not renewing due to their financial support for Rall's hatred.
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posted on
05/05/2004 10:46:00 AM PDT
by
talleyman
(Never question the patriotism of Democrats - there's none to question)
To: pogo101
Here's mine:
Dear Sir, I wanted to write to you and comment on Ted Ralls cartoon regarding the death of Pat Tillman. After reading it, I was struck by the poster behind Tillmans head in the first panel, which reads, Were looking for guys who dont read the paper. Though this may have referred to the enlistment form, it seems to me that Rall meant paper as in newspaper. This is especially hilarious when one considers the allegations in the rest of the cartoon. If Rall believes Tillman was a racist doofus, he hasnt read the testimony of his family and friends about the type of man he was. If he believes that Al-Qaeda wasnt based in Afghanistan, he hasnt read the papers. And if he believes that Al-Qaeda hated Iraq too much to work with them, he hasnt read anything published on the subject since the fall of Saddam, some of it in publications that can only be described as leftist. In fact, it appears that Rall can only be getting his information from Al-Jazeera, or from one of the western tabloids and websites that make Al-Jazeera look like fair and balanced journalism.
Of course, the most important thing about Ralls cartoon is that it has no real point except to denigrate Tillmans memory, to vent Ralls rhetorical bladder on Tillmans grave. The cartoon would be out of line if it spoke of all soldiers this way, or if the soldier portrayed were a fictional character. By singling Tillman out specifically, Rall has gone out of his way to increase the suffering of Tillmans family and friends. The overtones of racism are also silly and slanderous to those in uniform. Im a veteran of the Cold War and Gulf War, and I didnt know anyone who joined up to kill Russians and Iraqis. We joined to serve and protect historys greatest nation and carry on her legacy of liberty, and those impulses are shared by my brothers and sisters who serve proudly today.
Please forgive the length of this correspondence, but these things needed to be said. In closing, I have some requests:
1. Please dump Mr. Rall, or at least pass on renewing his contract. Keeping him on at Universal Press Syndicate is like owning a paint factory and continuing to churn out lead paint.
2. Please issue an apology to the members of the United States Armed Forces and specifically to Corporal Tillmans family and comrades. I believe his wife should get a personal letter or phone call from the syndicate, apologizing for this despicable cartoon. We who defend the nation deserve better than this, and so do those who wait at home for us.
You may have noticed that I havent asked you to request an apology from Mr. Rall. Certainly that would be appropriate, but it appears that it would be as futile as asking a pig to do calculusthe boy just doesnt have it in him.
I hope you will act quickly to counter the damage Ralls cowardly back-biting has done to your company. Thank you for your consideration.
Sincerely,
[Secret Identity Removed by Censor]
I'm also going to forward the email address to my whole address book.
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posted on
05/05/2004 12:02:33 PM PDT
by
Mr. Silverback
(Terri Schiavo deserves to have her wishes followed--grant her a divorce!)
To: Mr. Silverback
"Keeping him on at Universal Press Syndicate is like owning a paint factory and continuing to churn out lead paint." Paying for a magazine that features this subversive is like paying for an obscene collect phone call.
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posted on
05/05/2004 2:40:54 PM PDT
by
lormand
(Dead people vote DemocRAT)
To: pogo101
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posted on
05/05/2004 2:49:56 PM PDT
by
freepatriot32
(today it was the victory act tomorrow its victory coffee, victory cigarettes...)
To: pogo101
When was this published in Men's Health?
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posted on
05/05/2004 3:02:38 PM PDT
by
OKSooner
To: OKSooner
It wasn't, if you're referring to the Tillman-bashing panel. As I hope my post made clear, Men's Health publishes a non-political strip by Rall called "The Testosterone Diaries," not his political stuff.
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posted on
05/05/2004 4:04:09 PM PDT
by
pogo101
To: pogo101
I hadn't read the whole thread. I axed because I subscribe to MH, (I'm not sure for how much longer; it has gone downhill the last couple of years as noted elsewhere in this thread) and I've seen the Rall cartoons in it. They're really lame at best.
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posted on
05/05/2004 4:10:16 PM PDT
by
OKSooner
To: OKSooner
Yeah, "The Testosterone Diaries" is only funny maybe 4-for-10 times. I get the impression he dashes them off at deadline, to heck with "writing" and such other capitalist pig notions.
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posted on
05/05/2004 4:17:49 PM PDT
by
pogo101
To: pogo101
Just read this entire thread. I'm gonna just cancel, because Ted Rall is a pig. No great loss, either, MH has become a really just another weight-lifting magazine.
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posted on
05/05/2004 5:16:51 PM PDT
by
OKSooner
To: pogo101
To be effective we should go after Men's Health advertisers as well. A call or strongly worded letter is probably good enough.
Here's a few from my March issue.
BMW
Banana Republic
Nike
Kawasaki
AT&T Wireless
Mitsubishi Motors
Tommy Hilfiger
Asics
Aramis
Starbucks
MSN Microsoft
Chevrolet
Boston Beer Company
Outward Bound
Toyota
BVD
Ralph Lauren
Mars Inc. (Snickers)
Ford
Mazda
Columbia Sportswear Company
Kellogs
Chrysler (Jeep, Dodge)
Gillette
Naval Reserve
Saucony
Bose
Bayer Healthcare (Levitra)
GlaxoSmithKline (Advair)
Hilton Hotels
Twinlab
GNC
American Society of Plastic Surgeons
Nissan
Calvin Klein
Hugo Boss
Daniel Cremieux
Canali Sportswear
Cole Haan
Perry Ellis
Visa
Macy's
Saks Fifth Avenue
Under Armour
Honda
Jockey
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posted on
05/05/2004 6:55:48 PM PDT
by
Rockitz
(After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
To: pogo101
Ted Rall, the loathsome Ted Rall. That despicable parasite that feeds in the bowels of America's free press. He is the waste product of free expression. He has the tastefulness of Brittney Spears on peyote and the class of slattern Memphis strumpet.
I'd love to defund the evil son of a biscuit-eater. It would give me great pleasure. Regrettably we can't defund this piece of trash without also defunding the next Michaelangelo. That's how free expression works, the kielbasa usually tastes pretty good, but you never want to tour the factory where it was processed.
What do we do about the tacky and parasitic Ted Rall. We ignore him, we deride him and we pity him the way we pity a homeless bum who vomits while lying prone in a ditch. Pity is a phenomenal form of revenge. It implies disrespect, disgust and contempt. All three of which are condign and righteously earned when directed at Theodore Rall.
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posted on
05/06/2004 6:35:30 AM PDT
by
.cnI redruM
(The words "nose candy" and the name Ted Rall belong in the same sentence.)
To: Mr. Silverback
This is the BEST.
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posted on
05/06/2004 8:27:10 AM PDT
by
sully777
(Our descendants will be enslaved by political expediency and expenditure)
To: .cnI redruM
I like the ignoring, pitying and deriding. Where you lose me is here:
Regrettably we can't defund this piece of trash without also defunding the next Michaelangelo. That's how free expression works
Err? Why can't we defund Rall without defunding the next Michelangelo?
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posted on
05/06/2004 9:18:11 AM PDT
by
pogo101
To: pogo101
Why can't we defund Rall without defunding the next Michelangelo? - Because one man's Rall is another man's treasure. By what standard do we begin to defund?
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posted on
05/06/2004 9:28:00 AM PDT
by
.cnI redruM
(The words "nose candy" and the name Ted Rall belong in the same sentence.)
To: .cnI redruM
By what standard do we begin to defund?Again, you're completely losing me here. "By what standard"? JUDGMENT. By using JUDGMENT, I can discern who hates America and who lovingly takes it to task. By using JUDGMENT, I can choose not patronize those who give money to people (like Rall) who accuse anyone who dares disagree with them of being bigots, greedheads and/or stupid, rather than having an honest disagreement. Michelangelo was sponsored by the Vatican and wealthy noble houses, in any case, not by "companies," so I also fail to see any persuasive analogy there. The bottom line (and maybe we should leave it there) is that I don't want to give money to those who give money to Ted Rall and others whose expressed values so thoroughly, so diametrically go against my own. No one's saying YOU have to go along with that, but you're utterly unconvincing in suggesting that MY doing so somehow may be squelching a future Michelangelo.
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posted on
05/06/2004 9:54:22 AM PDT
by
pogo101
To: pogo101
I sent a similar message to Men's Health. Thanks for the link.
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posted on
05/06/2004 9:58:44 AM PDT
by
LanPB01
To: lormand
I don't subscribe to MH, and don't remember ever seeing Rall's cartoon before.
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posted on
05/06/2004 10:00:57 AM PDT
by
Mr. Silverback
(Terri Schiavo deserves to have her wishes followed--grant her a divorce!)
To: Rockitz
To be effective we should go after Men's Health advertisers as well. Like it! Will do!
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posted on
05/06/2004 10:02:22 AM PDT
by
Mr. Silverback
(Terri Schiavo deserves to have her wishes followed--grant her a divorce!)
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To: Rockitz
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posted on
05/11/2004 6:57:28 PM PDT
by
TPI
To: TPI; pogo101; Monty22; TruthShallSetYouFree; Mr. Silverback; Smartass; Clock King; fire_eye; ...
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posted on
06/07/2004 3:21:43 PM PDT
by
Rockitz
(After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
To: Rockitz
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posted on
06/07/2004 3:23:11 PM PDT
by
Monty22
To: Monty22
I found it on Drudge. Just went back to Drudge and tried it from there and now it doesn't work. Ted must know he's in trouble.
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posted on
06/07/2004 3:28:04 PM PDT
by
Rockitz
(After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
To: LanPB01; Mr. Silverback; Rockitz; World'sGoneInsane; TruthShallSetYouFree
Last week, I got my latest issue of Men's Health. It has its usual Ted Rall cartoon ("The Testosterone Diaries," not his political panel), notwithstanding my/our letters to the editor.
I now have cancelled my subscription with a clear explanation of my reason for doing so.
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posted on
06/07/2004 4:07:15 PM PDT
by
pogo101
To: Rockitz
If you can find a working link to Rall's rant, please post.
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posted on
06/07/2004 4:16:58 PM PDT
by
pogo101
To: Rockitz
Yeah, i'd like to see it now, from what I'm seeing on drudge though.. oh boy. Tar and feather time.
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posted on
06/07/2004 4:32:26 PM PDT
by
Monty22
To: Rockitz; devolve; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; Happy2BMe
Ted Rall is liken to a drive by shooter, who then runs
for cover. We're just hearing and witnessing the beginning
of some the most venomous, evil, mean spirited political
blather coming from the left that I have ever seen. The
worst is yet to come All pointed into knocking George
W. Bush out of the White House. This dirty filthy type of
politics came to the national scene by the Clintons.
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posted on
06/07/2004 4:52:46 PM PDT
by
Smartass
( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2004 - Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió.)
To: TPI; pogo101; Monty22; TruthShallSetYouFree; Mr. Silverback; Smartass; Clock King; fire_eye; ...
Here's my letter to David Zinczenko, editor of Men's Health Magazine, http://www.menshealth.com
Dear David,
The politically vocal Ted Rall (MH Testosterone Diaries cartoonist) has once again offended me and undoubtedly a great number of your readers with his recent rant in the wake of President Reagan's death. His cheap shot strip in the wake of Pat Tillman's death was enough for me to consider writing you, but this latest rant against Reagan is the final straw. It seems that Ted has a knack for attacking people who are dead and can't come after him. His callous, vindictive, and ruthless style is just not what I associate with MH. Certainly Ted has every right to say what he says, but I also have every right to cancel my subscription to MH and inform your advertisers why I am boycotting their products. Testosterone Diaries adds absolutely nothing to your fine publication. It's time to cut Ted off. Absent a statement from you indicating your discontinuance of any and all Ted Rall contributions to MH within the next 2 issues, I'll be canceling my long-time subscription.
Name withheld
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posted on
06/07/2004 5:15:40 PM PDT
by
Rockitz
(After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
To: Rockitz
Atta man. I wonder if MH will publish any comment at all -- even a snitty little "We don't endorse his politics [so shut the heck up and buy our advertisers' stuff]"?
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posted on
06/07/2004 5:18:00 PM PDT
by
pogo101
To: Smartass; Rockitz; devolve; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; Happy2BMe
Check out this parody, but entirely plausible, version of
Ted Rall's Internal Monologue. Cuss words warning. (But hey, it's Ted Rall's brain, after all.)
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posted on
06/07/2004 5:21:46 PM PDT
by
pogo101
To: Rockitz
It looks like Rall's whole website has gone down.
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posted on
06/07/2004 5:24:56 PM PDT
by
LanPB01
To: LanPB01
It looks like Rall's whole website has gone down. So has the reference to it on Drudge.
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posted on
06/07/2004 5:28:53 PM PDT
by
pogo101
To: Smartass; devolve; yall
I will be glad to see November 3rd this year. :^D
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posted on
06/07/2004 5:59:01 PM PDT
by
MeekOneGOP
(There is ONLY ONE good Democrat: one that has just been voted OUT of POWER ! Straight ticket GOP!)
To: Rockitz
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posted on
06/07/2004 6:03:10 PM PDT
by
Boazo
(Are you afraid of clowns?)
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