PHONY IRAQI ABUSE OUTRAGE SYNDROME

Regularguys.com ^ | 05/05/04 | Larry Wachs

[Alamo-Girl]

Bump!

[Soaring Feather]

Laugh bump.

[dmz]

I really don't care what our troops do to obtain information vital to the welfare of our troops, countrymen, and country.
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OK. Fair enough.

What about when our troops do it for kicks, as seems to be the case in at least some of these situations.

Is that OK?

I don't see what "information vital to the welfare of our troops" is being extracted while smoking, laughing and pointing at prisoners genitalia, all the while mugging for the camera.

[blackdog]

Ensuring the safety of enemy combatants........The only reason to ensure their safety is for their value as hum-int assets.

Islam laughs at such nonsense.

Everything in America is catch and release. Criminals, enemy combatants, marriages, politicians, murderers, rapists, fishing, bank fraud, bribery convictions, etc....

This is an area of the world where they stone you to death for showing your face and behead you for stealing an orange.

Oh how islam must be entertained pushing our buttons.........Watch Teddy Dance.....

[Liberatio]

i agree with your comment

[blackdog]

It's psychological warfare. What do you think the prisoners at Guantanamo Bay were doing to our security units guarding them?

My dad was a prison guard. They throw feces at you, shank you, you hand them toothpaste and they shove it up their butt and laugh at you.

These are not weak Americans accustomed to civil compliance. Most of these prisoners have been trained to avoid successful interogation and the games played to soften them up may seem sadistic and unpleasant, but there is a method.

It is vital to our mission that we know everything they have up their sleeve. Our psy-ops guys know how to get it done without piling dead bodies up to the ceiling.

I would even hedge to guess that this may have been deliberately leaked for some end game purpose. Be patient, let's see.

[MJM59]

Ah, the sweet smell of perspective.

[beachn4fun]

Hey, this is no joke. I agree with this guy. 8->

I think this was the least we could do to these apes for what they've done to our guys and gals. Can you say, homicide bombers, terrorists?

'sides, we all know that the enemy knows by now that all they have to do is get the liberals' panties in a bind with their cry-baby crap, and they WILL BE SET FREE!

Let's see, did those who took some hostages mistreat them? Did they treat them according to the GC? Let's ask our media if they know!

[bin2baghdad]

Baloney. I am a soldier who risked his life in Iraq to do the right thing and I am outraged. People with me died and lost limbs so that these sickos could play gang-bang? If reality matches appearances, the responsible parties should be tried at court martial and punished. There is plenty of evidence to warrant a thorough investigation. The truth is the truth, and we should never be afraid to face it. The thousands of men and women who are serving honorably demand it. You're not defending me or any other soldier when you defend lawlessness.

[thoughtomator]

I'm not defending the abuse - it's an outrage, against everything that we are supposed to be as a nation. I have confidence that the system will provide justice in this case. Hopefully they'll have the sense to shut down that prison, a powerful symbol of Saddam's tyranny.

I just find the crowing on the Left - the ones using this incident to attack the war policy - to be disgusting. And it is right in line with their continuing campaign to sabotage the war at great risk to us all.

[bin2baghdad]

Everyone KNOWS how the left will respond to this. They've just been waiting for an excuse to spit on us and call us baby-killers. Everyone KNOWS how it will play in the Arab world. That's why I'm more pissed right now at the people who did this than at the left or press or the UN or al-Jazeera. Their response is predictable. Because their response is predictable, the guilty soldiers are responsible for more than simply violating our American values of human decency; they've increased the risk for every soldier on the ground and made it much more difficult to achieve the mission. My commander told us that we would have to work together to achieve our mission - but any private could screw it up all by themselves by behaving badly. He was right. I guess I expect more from my fellow soldiers.

[blackie]

We are winning ~ the bad guys are losing ~ trolls, terrorists, democrats and the mainstream media are sad ~ very sad!

~~ Bush/Cheney 2004 ~~

[Flash Bazbeaux]

Well, peeing on the enemy is a great American military tradition. Remember Captain Bucher of the Pueblo?

"The absolute truth of this bowel wrenching confession is attested to by my fervent desire to paean the Korean People’s Army Navy, and their government and to beseech the Korean people to forgive our dastardly deeds unmatched since Attila. I therefore swear the following account to be true on the sacred honor of the Great Speckled Bird."

[MACVSOG68]

I really don't care what our troops do to obtain information vital to the welfare of our troops, countrymen, and country. I have faith in their discretion.

Well perhaps those MPs who had no responsibility to obtain any information, but simply to secure the prison and ensure the safety of the prisoners can let us all know how a dyke pointing at a naked prisoner's genetals and laughing was vital to the welfare of our country. I have missed that small point.

[Musket]

Good post. Thanks. F the Liberal Media.

[swarthyguy]

Totally misguided braindead.

So why is the entire administration in panic mode going on Arab tv if this is such a small deal.

Stupid article. You cannot lessen the severity and magnitude of this systemic abuse by this pablum.

Nauseating article.

[blackdog]

Dyke? ..........ahem....

Posturing and male dominance is the lifeblood of Arab/Islam culture.

I suggest those of us who have never been in nor ran a prison temper their views until the dust settles. Stuff like this goes on inside prisons right here in America every day and I don't see politicians lining up in que to spout off about it?

I suggest this may be just what the Bush Doctrine ordered up for the first order of business of a new Iraqi governing body. A few hundred Iraqi combatants giving testimony in front of a new governing Iraqi council might be just the thing to sell the people on democracy. It will keep the groups from infighting and trainwrecking. All the while in the back of their minds they'll remember in Saddam days they'd just be murdered and tossed in a ditch at night, never to be heard from again.

One can surely disagree with Bush policy, but he does have one and he does everything deliberately. He may be wrong or right, but he's no lightweight.

[metesky]

Thank you for your service and welcome to Free Republic.

There was a thread the other day saying that Iraqi guards were responsible for mutilating and killing some prisoners and our men and women were more or less just humiliating the bums. I hope it's true.

Of course they must be punished. There'll be some DDs and some time handed out.

[AngryJawa]

Man, do I ever miss Larry and Eric in the morning.

The Regular Guys Rocked...'eff you, Steve. 8^)