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Newspapers Can't Shake Circulation Doldrums
Editor & Publisher ^ | May 3, 04 | Mark Fitzgerald and Jennifer Saba

Posted on 05/05/2004 9:17:27 AM PDT by churchillbuff

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To: beckett
the internet might play a role in the decline of hardcopy newspapers.

The internet doesn't leave my fingers smudged.

21 posted on 05/05/2004 9:51:45 AM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: churchillbuff
Yep they are going the way of air america, just taking longer.
22 posted on 05/05/2004 9:55:11 AM PDT by ampat (to)
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To: altura
My brother used to be a freelancer. We shared a house together in Albuquerque, so I know how hit-and-miss that biz can be.

He got hired as a staffer. His paper has a subscription only online presence (mostly). Not sure if he will hold onto his job, but he is looking for other avenues of money anyway (he hates the politics of the newspaper biz--the internal politics as well as the super-lefties).

I get all my news online. I can research the things that interest me, or use a meta-news site like FR or WND.
23 posted on 05/05/2004 9:59:04 AM PDT by Betis70
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To: churchillbuff
At one time it was considered conservative--the more conservative of the two big papes we had back in the day.

The Dallas Times Herald was considered the more liberal but it folded in the mid-eighties. That is one problem with the newspaper biz -- no competition to keep papes on their toes.

Now the News is very liberal, perhaps more fair than the New York Times (but who isn't), ... I was surprised that they covered the Vets against Kerry news conference, but they did.
24 posted on 05/05/2004 10:00:34 AM PDT by altura (Sometimes the ground rises up at me, but I don't fall, but if I do, I have on a really cute outfit.)
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To: churchillbuff
The Milwaukee Journal Sentinel (known affectionately as The Urinal) has lost 4.9% of its daily circulation in the last year (current circulation ~ 245,000). The paper ascribes this precipitous drop to the ending of special rates and conscious shrinkage in rural area distribution. This is whistling past the graveyard. The internet provides people with the information that only a daily paper use to convey. And growing numbers of people can no longer stomach the socialist slant given the other options available.
25 posted on 05/05/2004 10:00:51 AM PDT by Faraday
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To: churchillbuff
There is no bias in the media. Fair and balanced reporting.
There is no bias in the media. Fair and balanced reporting.
There is no bias in the media. Fair and balanced reporting.
There is no bias in the media. Fair and balanced reporting.
There is no bias in the media. Fair and balanced reporting.
There is no bias in the media. Fair and balanced reporting.
There is no bias in the media. Fair and balanced reporting.
There is no bias in the media. Fair and balanced reporting.
There is no bias in the media. Fair and balanced reporting.
There is no bias in the media. Fair and balanced reporting.
There is no bias in the media. Fair and balanced reporting.
There is no bias in the media. Fair and balanced reporting.
There is no bias in the media. Fair and balanced reporting.

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26 posted on 05/05/2004 10:03:39 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (John F'ing Kerry, dumbocRATs and the media support terrorists.)
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To: ampat
The way for the print media to increase sales is very simple. Tell the truth. There is no longer any journalistic integrity.

The media sold their souls hoping that the crocodile eats them last. Come January, they better pray that the administration doesn't decide to look at how to regulate the media.


27 posted on 05/05/2004 10:07:23 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Only difference between the liberals and the Nazis is that the liberals love the Communists.)
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To: churchillbuff
I finally gave up the Tampa Tribune this year. It had devolved into not much more than a redistribution outlet for AP, Reuters and NYT stories. The worthwhile local content had gotten very sparse.
28 posted on 05/05/2004 10:09:53 AM PDT by PogySailor (Proud member of the RAM)
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To: All
the Washington Post, like the proverbial blind squirrel, does occasionally get a right. Give them a little credit. the NYTimes makes the Washington Post look like the RNC house organ.
29 posted on 05/05/2004 10:12:22 AM PDT by Belisaurius ("Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, Ted" - Joseph Kennedy 1958)
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To: churchillbuff
Our local paper, a large Midwest newspaper, aggressively tries to keep the circulation number up. For some period of time we took only the weekend paper, meaning Friday, Saturday and Sunday home delivery. Then a promotion offered full week delivery for the same price as weekend. We signed on for the trial period (one month as I recall) when the period was up they started billing at the weekly rate. I called circulation and requested the weekend delivery again, stating that delivery Monday thru Thursday wasn't really necessary (often the paper goes unread during the week). Circulation responded by saying they would continue to charge the weekend rate if I continued with weekly delivery, which I agreed to. That's where it stands now ... well over a year later.
30 posted on 05/05/2004 10:12:40 AM PDT by BluH2o
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To: churchillbuff
After an article in today's Washington Post, no wonder their circulation is down. Losers every one.

Can we sue if they are incorrect? I want someone to start suing them when they lie and it can be proven.

At least one major win against them will make them stop and think and then make a "real" effort to print the truth. They might even have to prove they verified and how with each story.

Wouldn't that be amazing?
31 posted on 05/05/2004 10:14:45 AM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: churchillbuff; Timesink; *CCRM; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; ...
Media Schadenfreude ping - May's Schade From Editor & Publisher

On, Off, or grab it for a Media Shenanigans/Schadenfreude/PNMCH ping:
http://www.freerepublic.com/~anamusedspectator/

32 posted on 05/05/2004 10:26:05 AM PDT by an amused spectator (The SeeBS of 2004 would have revealed the precise date and location of the Normandy Invasion)
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To: churchillbuff
WAAAAAHH! Why not eliminate the "news" and just give the people what they want...a free fish-wrapper with money-saving ads included.
33 posted on 05/05/2004 10:48:11 AM PDT by gundog
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To: PogySailor
The Commercial Appeal better known as the Comic Appeal , is a liberal rag that we quit taking several years ago because of its leftist leanings and rants. The Clarion Ledger better known as the Clearly Lying is also far leftist and we don't even read it now. The local papers are leftist also so in order to get some information other than left bias one has to go to the Internet and Fox News. We just got Fox News this last year. People in this area are Dumbocrats because they don't know and don't care about the truth.
34 posted on 05/05/2004 10:49:18 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: BluH2o
I visited Columbus Ohio to visit my in-laws last month and sprayed the coffee reading what passes for a paper in that town. It's straight off the Reuters newswire hook line and sinker. And Bob Novak passed for the loyal opposition.

And I don't even bother with the Chicago Tribune. Molly Ivins is a resident of their op-ed section as if she is knowledgeable of Chicago affairs.

35 posted on 05/05/2004 10:50:22 AM PDT by Thebaddog (Who's that poodle?)
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To: Belisaurius
Give them a little credit. the NYTimes makes the Washington Post look like the RNC house organ.

Yes. I have thought recently that the time is right for the Washington Post to develop a national edition to compete with the NY Times national edition, since so many of us have become disaffected NY Times readers but still have a lingering sentimental bias toward respectable national news media.

36 posted on 05/05/2004 11:31:57 AM PDT by Piranha
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To: churchillbuff
The good news continues!

Our local rag has cut the size of the newspaper to where it is about 60% as wide as a year ago.

Yesterday, there were two sections. The main ads seem to be stuffer ads from grocery stores, fast food chains and other mass merchandisers.

As usual the front section was devoted to PC bs instead of news. As soon as my wife tires of it, it will be dropped.

We cancelled the SF Gayronicle in 1992 during the election.
38 posted on 05/05/2004 12:20:52 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (When do lunatic lib liars like Wilson, Woodward and al Querry stop lying?!!)
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To: an amused spectator
Thanks!

We canceled the SF Chron two years ago, when they questioned why we said we wanted objective news reportage and not editorialized reportage in every single story.

Major league sports city editors must be happy they are located in such areas, because that is what gives them any circulation numbers. If they were to offer 'sports' only newspaper sections, the rest of their circulation would fall off dramatically.

In Marin and Sonoma the major papers carry NY Times bylines on all national stories, so why bother? Only for local sports!
39 posted on 05/05/2004 1:16:24 PM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: churchillbuff
Publishers need to grow backbones.

Liberal editors are running newspapers as personal liberal ego trips, not as a business. They compete for prizes not customers. It's time to switch incentives before these in-house rags are down to 8 readers and 12 prizes.

If half of a newspapers readers are conservatives, they need to be given a seat at the table. If they can't have a seat at the table, quit expecting them to pay for the meal.

40 posted on 05/05/2004 8:54:17 PM PDT by GOPJ (NFL Owners: Grown men don't watch hollywood peep shows with wives and children.)
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