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Condolences to David Hatuel, whose family was killed (Vanity)
none ^ | May 5, 2004 | self

Posted on 05/05/2004 11:13:59 AM PDT by Piranha

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To: Salem
Adding prayers...
21 posted on 05/05/2004 6:00:40 PM PDT by netmilsmom (For Tali Hatuel, her son & daughters Tehila, 11; Hadar, 9; Roni, 7; and Meirav, 2 - Kill Arafat)
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To: Piranha
I can't say I have any condolences I could give Mr. Hatuel.

I do, however, have some choice words for the animals who murdered his wife and children.

Choice, indeed.

22 posted on 05/05/2004 6:02:16 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: oceanview
if you really wanted to be shocked tonight, you had to see Keith Olbermann interview that Palestinian spokeswoman (I forget her name, but we all know her when we see her), railing against the iraqi prisoner abuses. just unreal.

for the media, this incident with the pregnant woman and her 4 children, never occurred.

I didn't see the interview you refer to, but I'll bet it was Peter Jennings' old girlfriend Hanan Ashrawi. She's been blaring her bazoo for Arafat longer than Pat Buchanan has.

And the thing is, this "woman" is not a moslem but a chr*stian and represents the point of view of the "indigenous" chr*stians of Israel (the Holy Land) and the Middle East. Some of these people even claim to be the descendants of the original Jewish chr*stians (which is impossible, since Hadrian, rot his bones, deported all Jews, including chr*stian Jews, from Israel and they weren't allowed back in ironically until the moslems took it).

The world, including Jews and Zionist Fundamentalists express outrage at the treatment of the chr*stian Copts of Egypt by the moslems and in return get blasted by the Copts who absolutely adore their moslem masters. The Armenian Patriarch of "the Great House of Cilicia" visits terrorists in Lebanon and declares the dead Communist/moslem terrorists "martyrs" of his own church (this from the people who beat the "genocide" drum against the Turks but who never met an Arab they didn't love). The "palestinian" Arab chr*stians according to Fr. Richard John Neuhaus are so rabidly anti-Jewish they don't even like to read the "old testament." "His Beatitude" Michael Sabbah, the Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem, is a PLO mouthpiece. Melkite Greek Catholic Archbishop Hilarion Capucci ran guns to Arafat in the old days and called J*sus "the first fedayeen." The Greek Orthodox Patriarch of Jerusalem is reflexively anti-Israel. The PLO occupies the church of the nativity, actually takes a dump on the traditional site of the birth, and the Latin, Greek, and Armenian clergymen who run the place condemn the Israelis. And the Middle East Council of Churches, the most ancient and authentic churches in the world, loudly proclaim that "Zionist chr*stianity is not chr*stianity at all."

And you know what? They're right!

"Bible-believeing chr*stians" are not chr*stians in the traditional sense. Judaeophilic, pro-Zionist Fundamentalism is a recent phenomenon that occurred when church tradition and ritual were chucked out and the "old testament" (the TaNa"KH) was brought in and read.

I know none of you will listen to me. You think your "precious savior" loves you. You think the religion you know as "chr*stianity" is the genuine article. It is not. It has no roots in the chr*stian past. I don't care how radically Calvinist your theology, you cannot justify a religion that isn't even the authentic version of the religion it claims to be.

Please, in the name of all that is holy, at least give the Jewish/Noachide position a hearing. Just listen, whether or not you finally agree with it. Aren't you always begging the Jews to "just give J*sus a hearing?" Unless you do the same with the claims of the older religion, the religion that predates any form of chr*stianity, you are the most rank hypocrites.

Please. Just listen. Just once.

http://redneck_rastafarian.tripod.com/.

23 posted on 05/05/2004 6:35:55 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Are the Ten Commandments an appropriate "multicultural" decoration for Shavu`ot?)
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To: NYC GOP Chick
You are welcome. Sorry it's necessary.
24 posted on 05/05/2004 7:32:37 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: Salem
This is one of the most heartbreaking stories that I have heard. Gary Bauer spoke about it tonight at the Christians for Israel Ceremony in Washington DC. He asked "What can you say about men who shoot at a car with a pregnant mother and her children, run them off the road, run over and shoot each child in the head, then the mother in the stomach to kill her baby!" Then use it to recruit more murderers!

What can you say about a people who do these things??? And what can you say to those who endure the murders day after day, year after year while the world turns a blind eye, especially the US Department of State, the United Nations, the EU, etc. All we can say is "Dear Israelis, we love you, we stand with you, we cry with you at each atrocity and we know the Truth."

25 posted on 05/05/2004 7:55:28 PM PDT by TrueBeliever9 (aut viam inveniam aut faciam (where there is a will - there is a way)
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To: Slings and Arrows
Unforunately, it's not an anomaly. My dad still keeps a picture (from the front page of the NY Post) of a baby and his mom (from NY) who were slaughtered on a bus last year.

Never forget.

26 posted on 05/05/2004 8:01:32 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick ("If I could shoot like that, I would still be in the NBA" -- Bill Clinton, circa 1995)
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To: Zionist Conspirator; Alouette; SJackson; yonif; Slings and Arrows; Happy2BMe; TrueBeliever9
"I know none of you will listen to me...."

Right. Yet, still you have to pop up on a thread dedicated to ministering to the one surviving member of a family murdered in cold blood to parade around your religous related head knowledge which, obviously by your insensitive choice of threads, has not impacted your heart or sensibility. Thus, no one listens to you.

Go away, Zionist. You're pathetic.

27 posted on 05/05/2004 10:13:48 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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To: Alouette; Piranha
Thank you for posting this. And for putting faces to this tragic, terrible story. I will send my condolences right away...
28 posted on 05/05/2004 10:51:48 PM PDT by cgk (Leftist spin: Baghdad Fell? Clinton's Army! Saddam Nabbed? Clinton's Army! Naked Iraqis? Bush's Army)
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To: veronica
That's what I was thinking as well. The idea is a good one, and I'm going to try and send my condolences, but I'm going to have a hard time thinking of something to say. I want to say something very, very hateful about the people who did this but that's not appropriate to say that to him.
29 posted on 05/06/2004 12:55:36 AM PDT by beaversmom (Michael Medved has the Greatest radio show on GOD's Green Earth)
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To: Salem; Alouette; SJackson; yonif; Slings and Arrows; Happy2BMe; TrueBeliever9
"I know none of you will listen to me...."

Right. Yet, still you have to pop up on a thread dedicated to ministering to the one surviving member of a family murdered in cold blood to parade around your religous related head knowledge which, obviously by your insensitive choice of threads, has not impacted your heart or sensibility. Thus, no one listens to you.

I am sorry you feel that way. I also posted my sentiments earlier in the thread, but this particular post was a response to someone mentioning (though not by name) Hanan Ashrawi. And the sooner everyone accepts the truth about this, the better off we will all be and the sooner we can start dealing with terrorist murderers.

Go away, Zionist. You're pathetic.

I will accept with penitence your rebuke for posting my message to an inappropriate thread (though again, as a response I felt appropriate to a particular post on that thread). However, I've been here a long time and I'm not going anywhere until JR kicks me off. And whatever my sin here, I feel your name-calling is boorish and uncalled for.

To the rest of you, I apologize.

30 posted on 05/06/2004 2:49:12 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Are the Ten Commandments an appropriate "multicultural" decoration for Shavu`ot?)
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To: beaversmom; veronica
In Jewish tradition, many people hold that comforting mourners is more important than visiting the ill. On a real "shiva call", or visit to a house of mourning, the custom is to be very attentive to the moods of the mourners, to say very little unless asked by the mourners, to avoid jokes or inappropriate cheer and to express the hope that they find comfort.

Obviously, in this situation there is one-way communication, not dialogue. For my part, I expressed sympathy to Mr. Hatuel, let him know that there are people in America who were very touched by the loss of his family, and my hope that the memory of his family can be a blessing to himself, his community and the entire State of Israel.

I hope that this helps.
31 posted on 05/06/2004 6:08:07 AM PDT by Piranha
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To: Salem
I talked to my son yesterday. He is on guard duty in the West Bank, in Hebron. He and his buddies are all in extremely bad moods because of the Hatuel family murders. You do not want to mess with IDF guys when they are this #i$$ed off.

I pray for my son every day and let him know I love him every time we talk.
32 posted on 05/06/2004 6:26:50 AM PDT by Alouette (Float like a butterfly, sting like a B-52)
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To: Piranha
let him know that there are people in America who were very touched by the loss of his family

I said someting similiar.

and my hope that the memory of his family can be a blessing to himself

That's a beautiful way to put it.

33 posted on 05/06/2004 8:17:44 AM PDT by beaversmom (Michael Medved has the Greatest radio show on GOD's Green Earth)
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To: Piranha
Prayers sent.
34 posted on 05/06/2004 8:20:51 PM PDT by coydog (End Single-Party rule in Canada!)
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To: oceanview
if you really wanted to be shocked tonight, you had to see Keith Olbermann interview that Palestinian spokeswoman (I forget her name, but we all know her when we see her), railing against the iraqi prisoner abuses. just unreal.

And we were also treated in Thurday's USA Today to photos of Palestinians watching the President's Arab TV apology with folded arms and disapproving expressions, like schoolteachers about to scold an unruly pupil. Such authorities on human rights and civility.
35 posted on 05/08/2004 1:09:26 AM PDT by jaykay (Osama Bin Laden = A Lesbian Nomad (if you remix the letters))
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