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Nervous Kerry to Dems: "Go Easy on Rumsfeld"; Repsonse: "Why are you trying to F**K me on this?"
www.crushkerry.com ^ | 5/7/04 | www.crushkerry.com

Posted on 05/07/2004 5:16:45 AM PDT by crushkerry

John Kerry burned the midnight oil on the phone with Democrat members of the Senate Armed Services Committee last night. He pleaded with them to go lightly on Donald Rumsfeld when the Secretary of Defense appears before them today at around noon. Rumsfeld is scheduled to answer their questions about allegations of abuse by US soldiers against Iraqi prisoners and the ensuing investigation.

The photos of those alleged cases of abuse have enraged the Arab world. And Democrat bigs on the Armed Services Committee have called for Rumsfled’s head.

But according to our source inside the Kerry campaign, John Kerry badly wants the issue to go away. Kerry fears the longer the issue stays in the news, the greater the likelihood his controversial accusations of war crimes committed by US soldiers in Vietnam – including his own – will become an ancillary issue in the campaign for President. “The 9-11 Commission is already going to discredit Bush in their report. If we push things too far, there is bound to be a backlash,” our source told us. “Tonight’s cable news talk shows were proof. Virtually every one of them ran footage of John Kerry in 1971 trashing his fellow veterans and admitting atrocities.”

Our source told us that the Democrat Senate Caucus had originally planned to “rake Rumsfeld over the coals” at today’s hearing, but that Kerry wanted them to tone it down. Kerry had heated phone conversations with at least two key Democrats on the Armed Services Committee, demanding to know of one, “Why are you trying to f—k me on this?”

No word yet on whether Kerry was successful in persuading his fellow Democrats to go easy on Rumsfeld or not. I guess we’ll just have to stay tuned to the hearings.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fword; iraqipow; kerry; rumsfeld; sasc; warcrimes
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1 posted on 05/07/2004 5:16:45 AM PDT by crushkerry
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To: crushkerry
Should be interesting TV viewing.
2 posted on 05/07/2004 5:18:48 AM PDT by sauropod ("I am Locutus of Borg. Resistance is futile. You will service US.")
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To: crushkerry
Is this for real?
3 posted on 05/07/2004 5:18:53 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: crushkerry
crybaby kerry doesnt want his actions to be compared to what happened in Iraq. blown it out your hinney john
4 posted on 05/07/2004 5:19:58 AM PDT by boxerblues
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To: crushkerry
Haha this is just too ironic. You would think someone is writing this script.
5 posted on 05/07/2004 5:20:14 AM PDT by winodog
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To: crushkerry
guess maybe kerry shouldn't have committed war crimes
6 posted on 05/07/2004 5:20:34 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch (I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it)
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To: crushkerry
Interesting. I was hoping they'd go for broke for Rummy as I strongly suspect it would backfire on them. I think John Q. Public is actually a bit resentful of all the media coverage of this prisoner abuse story. I think everyone's a bit ashamed and knows we have to take our lumps, but the double standard the world is holding us to is painfully obvious to most everyone.
7 posted on 05/07/2004 5:21:05 AM PDT by The G Man (John Kerry? America just can't afford a 9/10 President in a 9/11 world. Vote Bush-Cheney '04.)
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To: kcvl
I did not see any of the cable shows referred to in this article. I would be interested if any of them did comment on Kerry's allegations or admissions. Did anyone see anything about this?
8 posted on 05/07/2004 5:21:46 AM PDT by babaloo
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To: crushkerry
"have enraged the Arab world"

It goes to sleep enraged and awakens enraged.

9 posted on 05/07/2004 5:23:01 AM PDT by verity (A Vote for Kerry is a vote for National Suicide!)
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To: crushkerry
But according to our source inside the Kerry campaign,

Interesting that a source privy to the phone calls would blab. Not exactly cabinet material, here.

10 posted on 05/07/2004 5:23:05 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Would that be butchering innocent women and children as opposed to "humiliating" the terrorists?
11 posted on 05/07/2004 5:23:15 AM PDT by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: crushkerry
“Why are you trying to f—k me on this?”

I can only tell him that a certain person needs things to go this way. I wont name names but she looks exactly like Hillary Clinton.

12 posted on 05/07/2004 5:24:35 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Proud member of the right wing extremist Neanderthals.)
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To: crushkerry
The photos of those alleged cases of abuse have enraged the Arab world.

I get so sick of that line.

Photos of the twin towers burning and bodies being dragged through the streets of Fallujah and then grtoesquely displayed have angered the Western world.

13 posted on 05/07/2004 5:24:45 AM PDT by Allegra (A few more days to two weeks of FREEDOM!)
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To: crushkerry
It hadn't occurred to me that this could backfire on Kerry. I say "bring it on"...I think Rumsfeld can take care of himself.
14 posted on 05/07/2004 5:24:49 AM PDT by mrtysmm
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To: kcvl
Yeah, this source are not made up. We broke some news about possible shake ups high up in the Kerry camp, and just yesterday in teh New Republic they had a big story about it.
15 posted on 05/07/2004 5:24:53 AM PDT by crushkerry (Visit www.crushkerry.com to see John Kerry's positions filleted - and to see our lovely spokesmodel))
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To: sauropod
I say that all politicians need to pick a side. You are either with us or against us. Either put up or shut up. You can't support the troops if you don't fund them, you can't support the troops and blame them for everything, you can't support this country and constantly condemn it, you can't "represent" our country and trash it and you can't tell us you care about the citizens and play politics with our military men and women. So get it straight you political morons and either put up or shut up.

I can't imagine them saying the same thing about another country that they say about the United States. They want it both ways and it's time to shut them up.

I want to know whose names are on Saddam's money for oil list.

16 posted on 05/07/2004 5:25:50 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: winodog
Kerry had heated phone conversations with at least two key Democrats on the Armed Services Committee, demanding to know of one, “Why are you trying to f—k me on this?”

(cough)Hillary(cough) is on that committee...

17 posted on 05/07/2004 5:25:55 AM PDT by EllaMinnow (How many times can a flip flop flip before it completely flops and flips out?)
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To: verity
"It goes to sleep enraged and awakens enraged."

And then it goes to the coffee shop and has a few cups and some smokes enraged, and then it goes home and beats its wife enraged, and then maybe it strangles its daughter enraged, and then it prays five times a day with its enraged butt in the enraged air.

Why do they hate us, because they hate themselves.


18 posted on 05/07/2004 5:26:20 AM PDT by jocon307 (The dems don't get it, the American people do.)
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To: crushkerry; hchutch
Hmm. We'll see who's running the Democratic Party real quick.

If they're polite and deferential to Rumsfeld, Kerry's calling the shots.

If Senator Clinton takes the lead in castigating the SECDEF, then I would advise Senator Kerry to not fly on light aircraft, or to accept any invitations to Fort Marcy Park...

19 posted on 05/07/2004 5:26:22 AM PDT by Poohbah (Darkdrake Lives!)
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To: Allegra
Photos of the twin towers burning and bodies being dragged through the streets of Fallujah and then grtoesquely displayed have angered the Western world......

Only part of the Western world, other parts thought we had it coming.

20 posted on 05/07/2004 5:26:49 AM PDT by wtc911 (Europe without God plus islam = Eurabia)
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To: crushkerry
Will you keep your screen-name after it comes true?
21 posted on 05/07/2004 5:27:05 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (From each according to his inability, to each according to his misdeeds - DNC Motto)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult
Yes, I smell Hillary Clinton.
22 posted on 05/07/2004 5:27:26 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: crushkerry
Me thinks that flipflop Kerry hears the a fat lady wearing a pants suit warming up in the background.
23 posted on 05/07/2004 5:27:38 AM PDT by PigRigger (Send donations to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
I hope I have that dilema.
24 posted on 05/07/2004 5:28:41 AM PDT by crushkerry (Visit www.crushkerry.com to see John Kerry's positions filleted - and to see our lovely spokesmodel))
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To: crushkerry
Thanks!
25 posted on 05/07/2004 5:28:46 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: The G Man
I think John Q. Public is actually a bit resentful of all the media coverage of this prisoner abuse story.

John Q Public has already been indoctrinated - my husband's son-in-law made the following statement last night, "Seems like just about everything has gone wrong since Bush became president".

I pointed out that 9/11 would have happened if Daffy Duck had been president, that it had been planned long before Bush was elected.

26 posted on 05/07/2004 5:28:57 AM PDT by mombonn
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To: crushkerry
But according to our source inside the Kerry campaign...Our source told us that...

Before taking this too seriously, we need to know crushkerry.com is any more reliable than DEBKA.

27 posted on 05/07/2004 5:29:16 AM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: redlipstick
ROFLOL! Hillary's knives in the back are coming early.
28 posted on 05/07/2004 5:29:23 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: kcvl
"I want to know whose names are on Saddam's money for oil list."

I wouldn't be surprised if Baghdad Jim McDermott's name was there.

29 posted on 05/07/2004 5:29:24 AM PDT by sauropod ("I am Locutus of Borg. Resistance is futile. You will service US.")
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To: babaloo
Anyone who has seen the Kerry piece from the Dick Cavett show in 1971 would be repulsed. Kerry was the same then as he is now - a pompus, smarmy, nauseating personality who obviously believes he is a superior being. Back then he had the same habit of talking down to an interviewer, with that same phony Boston Brahmin accent and manner - even though he really isn't a Boston Brahmin. Just another fabrication in the Kerry portfolio that includes his "valorous" service in SEA. He is a bugout artist on the level of Bill Clinton, minus the Bill Clinton Good Old Southern Boy cunning and charm. He is a lying dolt, in other words.
30 posted on 05/07/2004 5:29:26 AM PDT by astounded
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To: freeangel
Would that be butchering innocent women and children as opposed to "humiliating" the terrorists?

I'm not condoning mistreatment of prisoners, but its hard for me to have much sympathy for people who are in league with those who slaughtered 3,000 of our people on Sept. 11th. Those men, women, and children were doing nothing more than peacefully living their lives, and the barbarians killed them for no sane reason. Excuse me if I weep for our own before I shed too many salt tears for those who support the murderers.

31 posted on 05/07/2004 5:29:53 AM PDT by chimera
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To: kcvl
Is this for real?

Apparently so.

These questions have really dogged Kerry and the rumor is that he is coming apart at the seams.

The questions posed about the perceived democrat insurgency in congress are beginning to grow legs and Kerry believes it is reflecting on the campaign. he still refuses to blame himself and is blaming congressional behavior.

I note that Kennedy has been fairly silent. This speaks volumes.

32 posted on 05/07/2004 5:29:58 AM PDT by Cold Heat (Politicians are interested in people. Not that this is always a virtue. Fleas are interested in dogs)
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To: mrtysmm
Kerry is the last person Rummy wants backing him.


Me thinks this is BS.
33 posted on 05/07/2004 5:30:40 AM PDT by Delta 21 (MKC USCG - ret)
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To: redlipstick
I have read this morning Chucky Schumer has said the call for Rumsfelds head is premature. Now it makes sense.
34 posted on 05/07/2004 5:30:57 AM PDT by normy (Just cause you think you can box, doesn't mean you're ready to climb in the ring with Ali.)
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To: Poohbah
If Senator Clinton takes the lead in castigating the SECDEF, then I would advise Senator Kerry to not fly on light aircraft, or to accept any invitations to Fort Marcy Park...

Nah Hillary won't do anything to him, just his "prostate cancer" will flair up again.

35 posted on 05/07/2004 5:31:16 AM PDT by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: winodog
You would think someone is writing this script.

Her ghostwriter is.
36 posted on 05/07/2004 5:31:19 AM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: crushkerry; Tijeras_Slim
Might I suggest a post-November name of crushedkerry?
37 posted on 05/07/2004 5:32:35 AM PDT by EllaMinnow (How many times can a flip flop flip before it completely flops and flips out?)
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To: astounded
ompus, smarmy, nauseating personality who obviously believes he is a superior being

Isn't that the truth?! Putrid little prick.

38 posted on 05/07/2004 5:32:46 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: wirestripper
Rumsfield is going to APOLOGIZE to CONGRESS TODAY. I think I am going to VOMIT!!!
39 posted on 05/07/2004 5:33:35 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: crushkerry
Ann Compton on ABC radio news just said something SO politically incorrect! She said some lawmakers on Capitol Hill were calling for Rumsfield's "scalp".
40 posted on 05/07/2004 5:33:42 AM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch
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To: crushkerry
But according to our source inside the Kerry campaign, John Kerry badly wants the issue to go away. Kerry fears the longer the issue stays in the news, the greater the likelihood his controversial accusations of war crimes committed by US soldiers in Vietnam – including his own – will become an ancillary issue in the campaign for President. “The 9-11 Commission is already going to discredit Bush in their report. If we push things too far, there is bound to be a backlash,” our source told us. “Tonight’s cable news talk shows were proof. Virtually every one of them ran footage of John Kerry in 1971 trashing his fellow veterans and admitting atrocities.”

This is the way it should be. These Americans trying to keep us safe in Iraq have done nothing in comparison to what Horseface Kerry claims to have done in Viet Nam.

41 posted on 05/07/2004 5:33:44 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: astounded
I am rather amazed that I have not seen placards saying "John Kerry is the reason Viet Nam vets were spit on when they got home"
42 posted on 05/07/2004 5:34:16 AM PDT by blanknoone (How many flips would a flip-flop flop if a flip-flop could flop flips?)
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To: crushkerry
FoxNews just reporting, Rumself is going to apologize to Congress for not keeping them informed.


Well, the media have tried for weeks to get the Admin to utter the a-word. Looks like they are getting it---yesterday from GW and today from DR.
43 posted on 05/07/2004 5:34:56 AM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Yeah, this source are not made up. We broke some news about possible shake ups high up in the Kerry camp, and just yesterday both Miceky Kaus at MSNBC and the New Republic they had big stories about it.

Hey, it's what was heard from a reliable source and we'll see how it goes. ONe thing you do know is that it's out there for everyone to see right or wrong.
44 posted on 05/07/2004 5:34:56 AM PDT by crushkerry (Visit www.crushkerry.com to see John Kerry's positions filleted - and to see our lovely spokesmodel))
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To: astounded
I have seen snips of the testimony and his appearance on Dick Cavett and I agree totally with your analysis. I am interested in seeing if the MSM is comparing what he said back then to the Iraqi abuse scandal. If they have I have missed it.
45 posted on 05/07/2004 5:35:03 AM PDT by babaloo
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To: crushkerry
It probably would be the first time in years that he's been F---ed.
46 posted on 05/07/2004 5:35:33 AM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (You can have my gun when I'm done shooting your cold, dead body with it.)
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To: normy; kcvl
Senate Armed Services Committee:

REPUBLICANS
John Warner (Virginia)
Chairman

John McCain (Arizona)
James M. Inhofe (Oklahoma)
Pat Roberts (Kansas)
Wayne Allard (Colorado)
Jeff Sessions (Alabama)
Susan M. Collins (Maine)
John Ensign (Nevada)
James M. Talent (Missouri)
Saxby Chambliss (Georgia)
Lindsey O. Graham (South Carolina)
Elizabeth Dole (North Carolina)
John Cornyn (Texas)


DEMOCRATS

Carl Levin (Michigan)
Ranking Member

Edward M. Kennedy (Massachusetts)
Robert C. Byrd (West Virginia)
Joseph I. Lieberman (Connecticut)
Jack Reed (Rhode Island)
Daniel K. Akaka (Hawaii)
Bill Nelson (Florida)
E. Benjamin Nelson (Nebraska)
Mark Dayton (Minnesota)
Evan Bayh (Indiana)
Hillary Rodham Clinton (New York)
Mark Pryor (Arkansas)

47 posted on 05/07/2004 5:35:39 AM PDT by EllaMinnow (How many times can a flip flop flip before it completely flops and flips out?)
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To: redlipstick
It's all about HIM, isn't it?
48 posted on 05/07/2004 5:36:30 AM PDT by Carolinamom (No man or woman is poor if he/she can laugh.)
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To: dfwgator
If Kerry's prostate cancer 'flares up' it will be because a certain pant-suit has physically stimulated it with repetitive non-lubricated abuse.
49 posted on 05/07/2004 5:36:52 AM PDT by blanknoone (How many flips would a flip-flop flop if a flip-flop could flop flips?)
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To: The G Man
I was hoping they'd go for broke for Rummy as I strongly suspect it would backfire on them.

Whenever they let loose, it always does seem to backfire on them, doesn't it? (One poll I saw said 85% felt the 9/11 commission was mere partisanship.) But I wouldn't have thought Kerry was smart to realize this -- oh, wait, he doesn't. He just sees his own claimed "atrocities" in Viet Nam coming back to bite him. (Wonder what kind of mail/email he's getting from Viet Nam veterans . . .)

50 posted on 05/07/2004 5:37:41 AM PDT by maryz
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