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Did Hillary reveal who leaked report in her questioning of Rumsfeld today?
Senate Armed Services Committee ^ | 5/7/04 | Senate Armed Services committee

Posted on 05/07/2004 8:41:35 PM PDT by abner

In today's testimony before the Armed Services Committee Hillary Clinton may have revealed the source of the leak of the report. Please have a look at the relevant snippets of the transcript from today.

I guess my theory is this: If she isn't behind the leak, she knows exactly who is.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hillary; hillaryknew; iraqipow; leaker; rumsfeld; sasc; sieve; turass
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To: CasearianDaoist
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51 posted on 05/07/2004 9:10:13 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Ted Rall is a waste of perfectly good oxygen.)
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To: The Mayor
I tried to watch today during work. That didn't happen. Work got in the way. :-)
52 posted on 05/07/2004 9:10:43 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: Judith Anne
That's the one
53 posted on 05/07/2004 9:11:54 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: Mo1
Yeah, I'm wondering about that aide, too.

These people are so stupid. It's as if they think that Bush is really stupid or that he is incapable of a brutal response.

What I like about our guys is that we know how to hurt without leaving a mark. Telephone books and oranges wrapped in a towel.

Ask Jamie Gorelick. Ashcroft destroyed her credibility and that garbage scow 9|11 Commission she sleazed on to. Haven't heard much from them now, have we?
54 posted on 05/07/2004 9:12:47 PM PDT by lavrenti (I'm not bad, just misunderstood.)
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To: ikka
If it was not in the Pentagon, it was with the DOJ, right?

I can't remember who had it first. It wasn't supposed to be Hillary. I know that much.

55 posted on 05/07/2004 9:12:52 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: abner
From the Myers/Dayton exchange......

MYERS: Thank you, sir. 

Thank you, Senator Dayton. 

This was not to suppress anything. What I asked CBS News to do was to delay the release of the pictures , given the current situation in Iraq, which was as bad as it had been since major combat ended, because I thought it bring direct harm to our troops; it would kill our troops. 

We talked about it, and I said, "I know this report will eventually come out. But this -- if you can delay it for some period of time -- it would be helpful."

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Because of Dayton's continual reference to the pictures as the report, even the Chairman JCOS eventually lost the distinction between the "pictures" and the "report".

I bring this up because, unlike Kerry and the medals vs. ribbons farce, I'm of the belief that the "report" and the "pictures", when referenced in the context as to their public disclosure, are two seperate and distinct pieces of information and not interchangeable.

56 posted on 05/07/2004 9:13:06 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: hole_n_one; All
HAVE OUR DETECTIVES REVEALED THE IDENTITY OF THE IRAQ TAPE LEAKER???
Do all clues lead to blot on American society Michael Moore as the man responsible for leaking Iraqi "torture" tapes to US and international media?
Several weeks ago Michael Moore bragged he had cameramen in his employ who were sending tapes everyday from Iraq via FedEx. He claimed these tapes were going to "tell the truth" about the situation in Iraq. Is it a coincidence that Moore claimed to be having Bush-related distribution problems with his upcoming treatment of the science fiction classic "Fahreinheit 451"
It fits perfectly within his publicity timeline and Moore's views and vows to bring Bush, Cheney, Rummy and administration. Finally, knowing President Bush would react with honor and compassion in a way that would hurt his conservative base by eventually apologizing for the actions of these soldiers and the Bush haters calling for the head of Secretary Rumsfeld.
Could Moore have believed it to be a win-win situation. Could this have been Moore's baby all along?


57 posted on 05/07/2004 9:14:32 PM PDT by olde north church (Give me the cheerleading pyramid over a plastic shredder everytime.)
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To: abner
"Maybe we could ask Jamie Gorelick."


Good one.


58 posted on 05/07/2004 9:15:01 PM PDT by writer33 (The U.S. Constitution defines a Conservative)
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To: abner
As soon as she made her remark and Rumsfeld responded, the look on her face was, 'ut oh - I screwed up'.

I posted a comment about while that while she was still questioning earlier today.

She had more information, apparently, about the photos, etc., than even the Pentagon/Rumsfeld had. That does raise suspicions.

59 posted on 05/07/2004 9:16:12 PM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: abner
I don't know how you know that.

When Rumsfeld said this, my ears perked up. It was a kind of verbal bookmark for the savvy listener.

I think he knows darn well how she knows that, and wanted to call attention to the moment. Mission accomplished, Mr. Secretary.

60 posted on 05/07/2004 9:17:01 PM PDT by Petronski (John Kerry's shabby lies make me very cranky.)
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To: TomGuy
She had more information, apparently, about the photos, etc., than even the Pentagon/Rumsfeld had. That does raise suspicions.

That was the impression I was left with also.

61 posted on 05/07/2004 9:17:22 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: hole_n_one
I'm of the belief that the "report" and the "pictures", when referenced in the context as to their public disclosure, are two seperate and distinct pieces of information and not interchangeable.

Precisely. And Rummy repeatedly said today that he had not seen the pictures (not the ones the press had obscured, but the unedited ones from the criminal investigation CD) until last night.

62 posted on 05/07/2004 9:18:34 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: Petronski; Carl/NewsMax
Mission accomplished, Mr. Secretary.

Mission is only accomplished if the media picks up on this. So far, they have been absent.

63 posted on 05/07/2004 9:18:38 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: lavrenti
Rumsfeld immediatelypicked up on her reference and was very blunt in his response.

Interesting that Rumsfeld would gather more information than the "fact finding investigatory panel" of 1/4 of the entire United States Senate.

It's amazing what you can learn when you ask questions to find out information, and when you listen to people to understand what they are saying, rather than grandstanding to the cameras for a shot at the veep spot on the ticket.

64 posted on 05/07/2004 9:19:25 PM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: A Citizen Reporter
Precisely. And Rummy repeatedly said today that he had not seen the pictures (not the ones the press had obscured, but the unedited ones from the criminal investigation CD) until last night.

He also stated that they had a tough time coming up with the CD of photos for him to view. That is just wrong!

65 posted on 05/07/2004 9:19:41 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: John W
The story I heard was that Mary Landrieu gave up her seat to Hillary, in return for the Clinton's help in her last re-election.

In other words, Hillary intimidated and threatened another Senator to get that seat.

And did it, no doubt, to beef up her resume in her run for the Presidency.

Pinz
66 posted on 05/07/2004 9:20:06 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: pinz-n-needlez
It was secret, for the protection of the defendants, just like our Constitution provides.

In addition to taking the photos in the first place, the release of the photographs was a clear and direct violation of international law.

67 posted on 05/07/2004 9:20:19 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: abner
This in the "opening remarks" phase on C-Span right now. Very interesting post!
68 posted on 05/07/2004 9:20:25 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: abner
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...As Committee Chairman Senator WARNER was thanking RUMSFELD for a open and complete testimony at today's Hearing...

...a female voice on mike sounding a lot like HILLARY butted in saying something like...

.."Yeah, Sure"..!!!

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69 posted on 05/07/2004 9:20:25 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: olde north church
I think it was Senator Rockefeller of the Senate Select Intelligence Committee. Earlier on this thread, I posted my remembrance of a scandal about a memo he wrote to other dems on the committee, planning to selectively declassify sensitive information that could potentially be damaging to the president, and use it against him in the campaign.

Looks to me like that's what's happening now. And the SSIC would have to have know about this, from the beginning.

Moore could have staged all those pictures. George Soros has the money to have HIRED people to pose for them, or to commit acts for photographs.

If they were part of a confidential set of files being used to prosecute those who took part, and the investigation against those who took part is now compromised by the SALE to CBS of those photos--then the guilty soldiers (if there is real guilt) get off scott free.

Think about it.

I didn't even have to wear my tinfoil hat to come up with that.

I hope President Bush uses every resource he has at his disposal to bring every guilty person involved, to JUSTICE.
70 posted on 05/07/2004 9:21:21 PM PDT by Judith Anne (HOW ARE WE EVER GOING TO CLEAN UP ALL THIS MESS?)
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To: Freee-dame; abner; lavrenti
Hmmmm .. I didn't realize who was behind the memo


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1016883/posts
Clinton Appointee Linked to Bombshell Anti-Bush Intel Memo
NewsMax.com ^ | 11/07/03 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff


Posted on 11/07/2003 11:58:47 AM EST by kattracks


A former member of the Clinton administration is being linked to a bombshell Senate Intelligence Committee memo outlining a strategy to use information gathered by the committee to help drive President Bush from office in 2004.

In an editorial Friday, the Wall Street Journal reports:

71 posted on 05/07/2004 9:21:33 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: olde north church
Is Moore going to take the fall for Hillary? I only ask because you've been running around every thread inserting a fat nobody into an important discussion.
72 posted on 05/07/2004 9:21:43 PM PDT by A Citizen Reporter
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
.."Yeah, Sure"..!!!

I heard that too.

73 posted on 05/07/2004 9:21:58 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: lepton
Good point, thanks.

Pinz
74 posted on 05/07/2004 9:22:14 PM PDT by pinz-n-needlez
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To: Hildy
Over at DU they're arguing about why Gore lost!!!!!! Now they're blaming it on Leiberman!!!!

LOL! Yeah, THAT'S the problem with the world. Too many halfway decent people clogging up the Democrat ticket.

If those yutzes had half a brain, they'd realize that Joe Lieberman had the best shot of beating Bush of anyone who was running.

75 posted on 05/07/2004 9:22:17 PM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: abner
You say the report was well known. I don't know how you know that. All I know is when it made the public, when somebody took a secret document out of prosecutorial channels and released it to the press, I do not believe it was yet anywhere in the Pentagon.

The shiv from Rumsfeld.

He's not a man to be toyed with.

76 posted on 05/07/2004 9:22:43 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: abner
Great catch!

I am amazed at Rumsfeld - the absolutely perfect comeback to Ms. steal records and bribe and manipulate it for power over events.

Now I am absolutely sure we see where these pictures came from - the lower levels in the DOD and they were taken from the investigation (wonder how much this cost) or an additional set from those taking the pictures (at what cost?).

Miss smartest woman in the world is not quite as smart as she thinks.
77 posted on 05/07/2004 9:23:21 PM PDT by ClancyJ (It's just not safe to vote Democratic.)
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To: olde north church
Now THAT'S a provocative supposition. I can't find any immediate reason why it could not be true.


Cannes is next week IIRC, so we will see what the press tells us is revealed in his little movie.


By the way, he can also be referret to as "Lumpy Riefenstahl."
78 posted on 05/07/2004 9:23:21 PM PDT by Petronski (John Kerry's shabby lies make me very cranky.)
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To: abner
Rush and Boortz need to start hammering the hell out of this one begining Monday, May 10, 2004. And if they start hammering away at this, watch just how fast this whole ordeal with the "tortured" Iraqi prisoners vanishes.


A.K.A. Sleepy Brown

79 posted on 05/07/2004 9:23:37 PM PDT by rdb3 ($710.96... The price of freedom.)
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To: abner
He also stated that they had a tough time coming up with the CD of photos for him to view. That is just wrong!

He also kept saying it was a "Criminal" investigation

Would that have been the reason?

80 posted on 05/07/2004 9:24:00 PM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: dead
Hill is bad about broad generalizations like "everybody knows", "we all know", etc. It is her way of belittling people. Hope this time it bites her in her rather substantial bottom.
81 posted on 05/07/2004 9:24:51 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: abner
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.."IS it SAFE?" = HILLARY on Senate Armed Services Committee..

http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=629


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82 posted on 05/07/2004 9:25:06 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: dead
"He's not a man to be toyed with."

That is why they want him gone....they want someone they can make squirm!
83 posted on 05/07/2004 9:25:14 PM PDT by TheLion
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To: abner
I'm referring to the mission in my original post: to call attention to the moment, by hint, to those in the press and public savvy enough to pay attention and catch the reference.

To my ears, it was about as subtle as a knee to the groin.
84 posted on 05/07/2004 9:25:18 PM PDT by Petronski (John Kerry's shabby lies make me very cranky.)
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To: Mo1
I don't know. I do know that if Rumsfeld asks for something he better get it.

Especially since it seems to be his head on the block.
85 posted on 05/07/2004 9:25:20 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: A Citizen Reporter
Yeah, as if any of these people are going to take the fall for anything. How much do you recall of what happened 4 months ago?
It's going to be forgotten in a month. Just wait and see what kind of defense lawyers these people get.
I'm pasting this around because I didn't want to open a new thread. OK with you?
86 posted on 05/07/2004 9:26:04 PM PDT by olde north church (Give me the cheerleading pyramid over a plastic shredder everytime.)
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To: abner; All
It doesn't take a lot of imagination to read those descriptions and have one's stomach just turn in disgust.

Actually, the only time my stomach "turns in disgust" is when I see or hear Mrs. Hitlary, or any liberal for that matter!!

87 posted on 05/07/2004 9:28:39 PM PDT by Heff ("Liberty is not America's gift to the world, it's the Almighty's gift to humanity" GW Bush 4/12/04)
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To: pinz-n-needlez
I had heard the same---giving up her Armed Services seat to Hillary was Landreu's payoff for Clinton (Bill) help in getting Landreu reelected to the Senate.
88 posted on 05/07/2004 9:29:19 PM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: Angelwood
We must call for an investigation - how do we get that done?
89 posted on 05/07/2004 9:30:53 PM PDT by ClancyJ (It's just not safe to vote Democratic.)
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment
Rumsfeld's success has been in his ability to clearly communicate and respond in a forthright manner.

Only a few in an one-on-one setting would have picked up, as fast as he did, that slip by Hillary! as she sort of rambled on.

She was unprepared by that response, and was visably shaken afterwards.
90 posted on 05/07/2004 9:31:16 PM PDT by lavrenti (I'm not bad, just misunderstood.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I heard something like that too at the end of this demeaning mess.Connections surface when hilt wants kerrie with his conn to the nva and their propaganda.
91 posted on 05/07/2004 9:31:43 PM PDT by noodler
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To: abner; Alamo-Girl; kristinn; Mia T; Joy Angela; conservogirl; Ragtime Cowgirl; leadpenny; ...
.

And then a smirking, angry HILLARY struts to the press mikes in the tunnel afterwards calling the just completed Hearing difficult. This after HILLARY angrily squirmed around in her chair during the hearing =

.."Yeah, Sure"

The Enemy is now Within...
and always has been.

.
92 posted on 05/07/2004 9:31:58 PM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE (Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.LZXRAY.com)
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To: A Citizen Reporter
Reviewed your reply again, I see what you are trying to say. I think his being a "nobody" makes it more likely, he's a joke, a parlor act. They take him out and put him onstage whenever an anti-Bush remark needs to be made, they get a laugh and he doesn't realize that he's half the joke.
93 posted on 05/07/2004 9:32:12 PM PDT by olde north church (Give me the cheerleading pyramid over a plastic shredder everytime.)
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To: Mo1
The real shame about intelgate or whatever, is that Hannity broke it but it fell flat and died. Even Hannity couldn't keep it going at Fox.

Prairie
94 posted on 05/07/2004 9:32:37 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Ted Rall is a waste of perfectly good oxygen.)
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To: lavrenti
Rumsfeld's success has been in his ability to clearly communicate and respond in a forthright manner.

As Yogi Berra said, "You can observe a lot just by looking."

95 posted on 05/07/2004 9:33:52 PM PDT by VisualizeSmallerGovernment (Question Liberal Authority)
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To: VisualizeSmallerGovernment
Over at DU they're arguing about why Gore lost!!!!!! Now they're blaming it on Leiberman!!!!

What totally puzzles the dimocrats is that they had the fix in place - and still lost!

And they can't believe it.

96 posted on 05/07/2004 9:33:54 PM PDT by Wil H
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To: abner
Clinton moles buried in the Pentagon?
97 posted on 05/07/2004 9:34:47 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: A Citizen Reporter; abner
I'm confused....

Is the issue here Clinton's knowledge of the pictures, the Taguba report or both?

As far as I can tell, Clinton asserted that the report was well known, and Rumsfeld simply wondered how she could know that.

She never said anything about any knowledge as to the pictures themselves other than how the Taguba report characterized them.

However, the fact that she dismisses any discussion as to their (pictures) release as "missing the point" is telling.

98 posted on 05/07/2004 9:35:30 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: nopardons
Clinton moles buried in the Pentagon?

Yea, hard to believe...

Right...

99 posted on 05/07/2004 9:35:40 PM PDT by abner (FREE THE MIRANDA MEMOS! http://www.intelmemo.com or http://www.wintersoldier.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Thanks for the ping!
100 posted on 05/07/2004 9:35:48 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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