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To: lugsoul; T'wit
As in, if Michael Schiavo wanted to sue you for falsely accusing him of a crime, he could. And to assert truth as a defense, you'd have to prove the crime.

I wouldn't worry too much about Michael suing. That would mean all the evidence he is suppressing would have to be brought out and looked at in the light of day.

56 posted on 05/15/2004 2:42:27 PM PDT by iowamomforfreedom (The right to die? or the right to be killed - http://www.life-or-death-decisions.org)
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To: iowamomforfreedom
Todays message to the media, politicians, and also to both the informed and ignorant populace:

To those of you who say this is a right-to-die matter or politics, or I'm a
religious nut I say poppycock, just try to pigeon hole me.

There is no right to attempt or accomplish murder on the innocent disabled
regardless if apparently sanctioned by the State, if this happens again re:
Terri Schindler Schiavo the State will be complicit in continued attempted
murder attempts. There are laws against mercy killing and Terri doesn't need
mercy.. she needs rehabilitation and deserves to be brought to full capacity
at the earliest possible time which she has continually been denied.

Read the depositions, statements in court and on national television of
Michael Schiavo regarding the evening/morning of Terri's collapse then look
at the police report of how the paramedics found Terri face down on the
floor. Also see Michael's statements that he will continue in his attempts
to take care of Terri (how could anyone read this any different then that he
will continue in his attempts to kill Terri) even if the courts rule against
him. Terri deserves protective custody from the State of Florida and
guardianship under Michael Schiavo needs to be removed:

Police report, statements of Michael, etc.:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1131600/posts?page=350#350

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1125603/posts?page=34#34

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1135763/posts?page=55#55

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1120621/posts?page=261#261

Interesting timeline:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/my/comments?more=56265851

Some depositions of Michael:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1108693/posts?page=117#117



This doesn't take a rocket scientist: You do not sit comatose or people in
PVS up in a chair but you do sit up disabled people in chairs. The media,
politicians, populace of the United States of America needs to quit being
misinformed and ignorant of the disabled and needs to stop torturing and
killing the disabled merely because they are disabled or because someone
(someone who to all intents and purposes is continuing in their attempts to
commit murder) says they said they wouldn't want to live like that.

Sincerely,

Juan V Schoch

Concerned Florida Resident

United States Citizen

__

A statement was released on Friday, May 14th by the Clearwater Police
Department  stating that they found NO evidence of criminal activity, NO
indication of attempted criminal activity, and no harm done to Mrs. Schiavo,
stating that the investigation has concluded.

The police report also included that the two aides who were on duty on the
day the incident happened, had told the nurse on duty that the marks on
Terri's arm were on her arm before the Schindler's had visited that day.

The charge nurse who had called Michael to report the marks, had told
Michael Schiavo that the aides had reported that the marks were there before
Bob and Mary had visited.

The police detective also had found other caps such as the one that was
reported by attorney George Felos of Dunedin, Florida as suspicious,  in
other enteral irrigation tubing packaging.

Last evening after 47 days of the Schindler's not being permitted to see
their daughter, the Schindler's excitedly drove to Park Place to be reunited
with Terri.

Upon their arrival, the nurse rang Michael Schiavo to ask if it was okay for
the Schindler's to go in to see their daughter. Michael Schiavo told the
nurse to tell them "No".

Although no criminal activity was concluded, it appears that the Schindler's
are now forced to wait and see their daughter until a decision is made on
the 26th of May when an emergency hearing is scheduled to be heard in Judge
Greer's court for restoration of visitation.


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For 47 days, including Mother's Day... the Schindler Family have been denied
access to their daughter for an alleged incident that turned out to be
nothing better than a hoax. Michael Schiavo and George Felos have created a
situation in which they forcibly isolated Terri Schindler-Schiavo from her
family. This was done on false accusations that they had caused harm to
their own daughter.  In a press release dated March 29th, George Felos of
Dunedin, Florida all but accused Terri's parents of injecting her and
inflicting puncture wounds on her arm:

http://www.sptimes.com/2004/03/30/Tampabay/Doctors_examine_Schia.shtml

As you will read in the following
official press release from the Clearwater Police Department these charges
are false and unsubstantiated.

Decide for yourself what the motives were.

CHERYL FORD RN
FIGHT4TERRI@AOL.COM


Here is the Clearwater Police News Release



NEWS RELEASE

For Immediate Release
May 14, 2004

INVESTIGATION FINDS NO EVIDENCE OF CRIME

Clearwater Police Criminal Investigations Detectives concluded today an
expansive and detailed investigation into suspicions that physical harm done
with criminal intent had been visited upon a 40-year-old woman under the
care of Hospice in Clearwater.

The investigation found no evidence of harm, injury or violation as the
result of a criminal act, said Police Chief Sid Klein.

The Hospice patient, Mrs. Theresa M. Schiavo, was the subject of
investigative, forensic and medical scrutiny after concern was expressed for
her well-being on March 29, 2004.

At about 3:30 that Monday afternoon - as Mrs. Schiavo's feeding regimen
commenced - a Hospice employee noticed some marks on Mrs. Schiavo's arms,
and shared her observations with a Hospice supervisor at the Park Place
assisted living facility, 2750 Drew Street. Concerns were heightened by the
position of a plastic hospital bracelet on Mrs. Schiavo's forearm; the
positioning of a plastic feeding tube wrapped around the chair in which she
was sitting; and the discovery of a small, purple medical apparatus,
initially described as a "needle cap."

(The lavender object, manufactured by a New York medical supply company
called Qosina, is not a hypodermic needle cap, but rather a hollow,
open-ended polypropylene "catheter syringe tip adapter" - called a Luer,
part # 41501 - and is used as a plastic tubing connector in medical feeding
and irrigation setups; it has no application for injection).

The Hospice supervisor notified Mrs. Schiavo's husband, Michael, who called
his attorney and his wife's physician, Dr. Stanton Tripodis. The physician
examined Mrs. Schiavo at Park Place, and authorized her transfer to Mease
Hospital in Dunedin for an examination. Various procedures, including
toxicology tests for the presence of unauthorized drugs, proved negative,
and Mrs. Schiavo was returned to Hospice care.

Clearwater Police Detectives conducted numerous interviews with family
members, physicians, Hospice employees and others. The Mease Hospital
attending physician found nothing untoward about the marks on Mrs. Schiavo's
arm, nor did her personal physician. Neither physician quantified the marks
on her upper arm as evidence of an injection; the origin of these specific
marks is undetermined.

Although Detectives cannot say conclusively what caused the other marks,
it's believed they could have been the result of a apparatus called a "Hoyer
Lift," used to move a patient from a reclining position on a bed to a
sitting position in a chair.

The plastic hospital bracelet, a rigid band of plastic, may have worked
itself up her forearm toward her elbow since Mrs. Schiavo's arms are often
contracted upward.

The feeding tube and its position was examined by Hospice employees when
concerns were initially expressed, and subsequently by investigators: there
was no indication of leakage; detectives found no indication of intentional
manipulation; the monitor warning alarm was never activated, nor was the
feeding ever interrupted.

Detectives identified the lavender piece of plastic found in Mrs. Schiavo's
clothes as a tubing connector, and had an independent company (National
Medical Services of Willow Grove, Pennsylvania) conduct chemical and gas
examinations of swabs taken from the Luer adapter. The test results were
negative for foreign substances.

The Clearwater Police Department found no evidence of criminal activity, no
indication of attempted criminal activity, and no harm done to Mrs. Schiavo.
The investigation has concluded.

All inquiries regarding this investigation should be directed to Public
Information Officer Wayne Shelor at (727) 562-4333.
/s/
SID KLEIN
Chief of Police

+++

Whoever said that "Crime doesn't pay" didn't live in our times.
 MOM MUST PAY ADMISSION TO SEE HER DAUGHTER?



This is Terri's 47th day of forced isolation from her parents, siblings,
priest, those who love her and her 1492nd day confined to just a single
small room by Hospice of the Florida Suncoast (give or take a few days
of having to be in the hospital from neglect and almost being
dehydrated/starved to death).

Just when you thought the bottom of the barrel was being reached. now there
is a fax from Michael Schiavo's attorney Deborah Bushnell that the
Schindlers could be permitted to visit their daughter if they pay for an off
duty police officer to accompany them (arranged by Deborah Bushnell & Co. of
course):

                     Deborah A. Bushnell
                          Attorney
                     204 Scotland Street
                      Dunedin, FL 34698
                     Phone: (727)733-9064


By Facsimile: (727) 898-4903

                                                   May 06, 2004

Patricia Fields Anderson, Esq.
447 Third Avenue N., Suite 405
St. Petersburg, FL  33701

Re: Schiavo, Theresa - #1834 -Guardianship

Dear Pat:

I received your fax dated May 4, 2004.

We inquired of Hospice as to whether they would allow their
security officers to be in the room during Robert and Mary
Schindlers' visitation.  To date, we have not received their
consent to this arrangement, and it does not seem likely that
such an arrangement can be made with them in the near future.

In the interim, the Schindlers may visit Terri in the presence
of a security officer.  However, we would have to make private
security options.  If your clients are agreeable to paying the
cost of such supervision, please let us know, and we will
follow up to make arrangements for the visitation and let you
know the cost.


                                          Sincerely,



                                          <signed>
                                          Deborah A. Bushnell


cc Michael Schiavo
   George J. Felos, Esq.
   Scott P. Swope, Esq.

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Terri is denied any extensive/comprehensive range of motion therapy or any
kind of therapies that could make her better. Terri is not terminal yet
Michael Schiavo is trying hard to make it so. AHCA's April 1st investigation
didn't see anything wrong with Terri's teeth yet shortly after their
investigation 5 teeth were completely removed from her mouth, with no
restorative work considered. How could the AHCA not have noticed anything
wrong? The surveyors notes of this investigation are a must read. They show
to what lengths Hospice of Florida Suncoast, Michael Schiavo, etc. are going
to deceive investigators to cover up the fraud and criminal neglect they are
committing upon Terri, the people of Florida, United States and the world.
The AHCA appears to be complicit in aiding and abetting these crimes.
AHCA is committing fraud and I have the proof. These Chapter 119 documents
are available upon request to pc93@bellsouth.net

There is a big question: WHAT ARE YOU AND YOUR FEDERAL AND
STATE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS DOING ABOUT BRINGING THE
PERPETRATORS TO JUSTICE? Contact the senators for your district and
ask them what can be done, there are any number of actions that can be
taken.

Contact as many people as you can (governmental and non-governmental)
about Terri's plight. Make stickers, bumper stickers, licence plates,
posters, etc.

Be creative, do take action.

"Petition for State protective custody for Terri" (please get the petition
information out to as many peoples as possible)
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/chisana7/

"Saving Terri Schiavo"
http://www.PetitionOnline.com/19461949/

Laws being broken:
http://zimp.org/

Petition for Governor Bush to put Terri in protective custody:
http://www.petitiononline.com/chisana7/petition.html

Connect the Dots ... for Terri
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1130771/posts?page=11#11

http://www.terrisfight.org

http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/c/pc93/terri_schindler_life_ribbon_campaign.htm

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The light is shining brighter on the real fact that pursuant to the Life
Felony Crimes Laws, FS825.102, which are intended to protect all of us from
the acts or omissions of others to cause us great harm or even cause our
death, when we become unable to speak and do for ourselves, no matter the
cause -- No person, elderly or disabled can be denied food and water,
delivered by any means we are able to receive, or medicine, speech therapy,
physical therapy, necessary services and rehabilitation -- to do so carries
up to Life Felony imprisonment.

Michael is just a used name.  He is a puppet.  The real people behind all of
these criminal acts that have been perpetrated upon vulnerable and fleecable
people, just as with Terri, are the Debra Bushnell's, the George Felos', the
Clan of Judges and the law enforcement officials they puppeteer.  This
bunch -- there are other groups just like them around the state -- are only
using the powers of a guardian to *hide* Terri [ cage/kidnap ] to make sure
she gets no stimulation, no visitors, no therapies of any kind, and possibly
try to intentionally depress her by telling her that her blood family has
abandoned her, so she will give up on living; so that she will give up
fighting them from causing her to die; Causing death = Killing.  All doctors
have testified that she can hear.  Videotaped examinations prove it.

Michael Schiavo has been a borrowed name on all of these court filings for
the purpose of making this woman dead.   It was in May of 1998 when Michael
came up with the announcement to the public, through his Petition to Kill hi
s wife with a civil court order obtained for the purpose of starving and
dehydrating his wife to death.  If that is true, his bringing to the
attention of the 6th Circuit Court, and never before in the 140 other court
hearing and trial opportunities going back to the day Terri was injured, the
hearsay and unwritten assertion that his wife told him several years prior
to 1990 that she would not want to live on a feeding tube.  So teach her how
to eat by mouth again.  Judge Greer was asked by her kin, and showed the
laws that mandate, but going against the laws he took oath to uphold, he
instead said "I don't want anybody feeding that woman", during open court in
2001.

Given that between Feb 1990 and May 1998 Michael never brought up any
statements of Terri's saying no feeding tube and not saying that she wanted
to be starved to death, the light now shines directly on December 14, 1995,
nearly 2 and one half years prior to Michael's *new* assertion that Terri
did not want a feeding tube.

That is the day, according to a careless mistake of two of the perpetrators
using Michael to make Terri dead, that George Felos and Debra Bushnell had a
meeting to discuss the discontinuance of the feeding tube.  It was a full 16
months prior to Michael having his first conference with George Felos on
March 14, 1997.   Felos is the self-proclaimed right-to-be-made-dead
attorney that was immediately hired by Michael and approved by the court two
months, to be paid with Terri's Jury awarded 1.4 million dollars
specifically for 51 years of life expectancy and for her care AND
rehabilitation.  Not for an attorney hired to kill her.

So, Michael's guardianship attorney Bushnell,
meets with the expert death attorney Felos,
16 months later Michael hires Felos using Terri's money and not his own
$660,000 jury award to shack up and make babies with Jodi Centonze while
prohibiting any forms of rehabilitation,
so that he can use his wife's money to make her dead, and then yet another
14 months later,
makes the announcement that Terri said in 1986 "no feeding tube" by filing
May 11, 1998 *his* Petition to starve and dehydrate Terri --- an act,
granted by a judge,  that would  kill his wife, would finish her off, by
denying and withholding all forms of food, water, medicine, speech therapy,
necessary services and rehabilitation.

The light is on the calculator.  The sum of the facts could appear to total
up to a Premeditated Plot and Plan to intentionally kill their clients wife.
A plan that was developed over several years.  Once the permission was
sought from Judge Greer, this murder plan was enacted, and set into play.
This changed everything into a bonafide crime.  Attempted Murder, 1st Degree
Felony Falsification of Advance Directives (30 years), 1st Degree Felony
Neglect with intent to cause death and Attempted Aggravated Manslaughter on
a Disabled Person -- all pursuant to the Crime Laws and Statutes of Florida.

Judge Greer in his  February 11, 2000 Order, committed malpractice by
misdiagnosing Terri as being an unconscious and unaware person [lawsuit 1]
and then Ordered the Guardian of the Ward to commit a 1st Degree Felony
Crime by removing Terri's feeding tube and denying her constitutional and
legal right to be protected and not feloniously victimized by being caused
to die.

Is the light on for anyone else?

David.
[Note: dates and timelines taken directly from public guardianship records,
public records, transcripts and depositions]

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  >Is the light on for anyone else?

  My only comment is that it's all moot so long as the principals enjoy
virtual "above the law" status.
 

57 posted on 05/15/2004 2:48:47 PM PDT by pc93
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To: iowamomforfreedom
>> I wouldn't worry too much about Michael suing

Never gave it a thought. I frame remarks what I regard as true, not by what-if-they-sue legal thinking. When you start caving in to litigiousness, truth will be the first casualty.

I might add, I have no wish to defame or libel anyone. Not out of legal worries but because it's wrong.

Nevertheless, since somebody raised the legal matter, it is kind of fun to think about. If you have dark secrets, a lawsuit is the fast road to get them exposed. For example, Alger Hiss was egged on by the whole elitist liberal world he inhabited to sue Whittaker Chambers, or else lose his credibility. That opened the whole case to critical examination. In the end, not only the jury but the world knew that Hiss was a Soviet agent, and that he lied, and lied, and lied, denying it.

61 posted on 05/16/2004 10:02:58 AM PDT by T'wit ("To educate a man in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society" - Theodore Roosevelt)
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