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Cedillo aide has angry outburst in Catholic church
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Posted on 05/15/2004 4:44:23 AM PDT by Stephen25

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1 posted on 05/15/2004 4:44:24 AM PDT by Stephen25
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To: Stephen25
LOL.

Good for you, keep up the good work.

2 posted on 05/15/2004 4:53:50 AM PDT by AAABEST (<a href="http://www.angelqueen.org/forum">Traditional Catholic News Forum</a>)
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To: AAABEST; NewRomeTacitus; *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; ...

Thanks! :-D The next meeting is May 23rd at Our Lady of the Rosary Cathedral in San Bernardino. 1:30 pm.
If any Freepers want to go, I will spring for Pizza! ;-)


3 posted on 05/15/2004 5:01:09 AM PDT by Stephen25
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To: Stephen25

Good work! I admire you. This man sounds a little paranoid and brittle, actually. I am truly concerned that this a liberal psychosis. I have heard too many reports lately about bizarre, brittle temper tantrums coming from leftists - usually from the water-carriers, not the hood ornament politicans. They cannot argue and cannot abide contrary opinions. At the bottom they are fractured and have just put coat after coat of good-feeling plaster over it, but it's never enough.


4 posted on 05/15/2004 5:12:44 AM PDT by Puddleglum (Are you a Republican? ARE YOU? Lord Kerry demands an answer!)
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To: AAABEST

Oh yeah i almost forgot; I have been in touch with 2 radio hosts; For those in so. cal, listen for the audio of this meeting & exchange on Monday. Freepmail me for the station call letters. :-) I will post pics of this meeting tomorrow.


5 posted on 05/15/2004 5:13:29 AM PDT by Stephen25
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To: Stephen25
Paranoia, veiled threats and attempts to limit your actions. It sounds like that guy has an agenda. If I were you I'd take one or more friends along to future meetings to insure the brother won't be tempted by sin.


6 posted on 05/15/2004 5:49:31 AM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: Stephen25

Good for you!


7 posted on 05/15/2004 6:12:05 AM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno World!")
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To: Stephen25

May God be your stregnth --and sheild. And May He raise up
a host of others inspired by your selfless acts of courage.
I fear the political house erected between 1787-1791 when
the Constitution and Bill of Rights were drafted and ratified. .. I fear that house has been divided too long
by the fraud perpetrated by a Ku KLux Klansman,and a
communistic leader of the ACLU,and the corrupted Court
constructed by FDR (1937-41,where the Klansman,Hugo Black,
the ACLU leader Felix Frankfurter, and justices Reed,Douglas,Murphy,byrnes and Jackson were appointed by FDR) I fear the fraud perpetrated in Everson,1947 shall
bring this nation to desolation.


8 posted on 05/15/2004 6:17:02 AM PDT by StonyBurk
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To: Stephen25

Good work, Stephen! A very interesting report, too.


9 posted on 05/15/2004 7:26:16 AM PDT by livius
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To: Stephen25

Good Report & keep up your good work.


10 posted on 05/15/2004 10:19:07 AM PDT by gubamyster
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Politicians are supposed to represent all the people in their districts, not just one side. This total division is becoming beyond the pale. When they don't even want you to attend their rallies because you might disagree with them, that lets you know that you will not be represented by them in any way at all.


11 posted on 05/15/2004 10:35:40 AM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: Stephen25

I don't know if I get this: the pro-abort pol. holds a campaign event at a CATHOLIC Church, and the AuxBishop claims to have said that 'it's a sin to vote pro-death?'

Bizarre, all-around. Is your Diocese a part of Mahony-land?


12 posted on 05/15/2004 11:04:54 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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How can any true follower of Christ, whos' gift to us is life, be for abortion?


13 posted on 05/15/2004 12:23:31 PM PDT by fella
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I have found that when people get into positions of power many of them and their staff get extremely arrogant. The best way to annoy them is for people to point out their positions in public and show why they are wrong. Of course this requires persistance and timing. I salute you!


14 posted on 05/15/2004 12:29:39 PM PDT by breakem (formerly bigsigh)
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To: Stephen25
Any Catholic politicians who advocate for abortion, for illicit stem cell research or for any form of euthanasia ipso facto place themselves outside full communion with the Church

What about support for the Death Penalty? Can a real Catholic go against the Church on this? Arguably, the death penalty is on the same moral level as abortion because both are questions about when it is acceptable to kill.

15 posted on 05/15/2004 12:39:56 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: DumpsterDiver

bump


16 posted on 05/15/2004 12:59:45 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: Stephen25

Keep up the good work. I recently criticized a spokesperson who was not a nun or priest for speaking on behalf of our Diocese, that people who supported abortion rights would not be denied Holy Communion in this Diocese. Rather, they were to be simply 'privately counseled in the Sacrament of Reconciliation.' The story appeared on the editorial page of the state's leading newspaper. The spokesperson writes for the Diocesan newspaper. I reminded him of the stance taken by a Cardinal in Rome, that Holy Communion should be denied to people supporting abortion, with a 'cc' to the Bishop. The guy wrote back and said he was too busy that week to respond in detail, but would do so the following week. I wrote back, thanking him politely for his response, but saying I actually had hoped to hear the response of our Bishop himself, also 'cc'd' to the Bishop. Nearly two weeks now, with no response from either.

In today's state newspaper, a Church official, I think in Colorado, is admonishing Catholics who receive Holy Communion if they even so much as VOTED for a pro-abortion candidate...

Much like you, I intend to keep fighting, until heard....



17 posted on 05/15/2004 1:19:59 PM PDT by ZOTnot (I'll take the side of Israel. Woe to its enemies.)
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To: breakem

Thanks, I like your advice!


18 posted on 05/15/2004 1:26:03 PM PDT by ZOTnot (I'll take the side of Israel. Woe to its enemies.)
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To: ZOTnot

Your welcome. I'm always available to make suggestions for what others should do. LOL!


19 posted on 05/15/2004 1:27:18 PM PDT by breakem (formerly bigsigh)
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To: xm177e2

"What about support for the Death Penalty? Can a real Catholic go against the Church on this? Arguably, the death penalty is on the same moral level as abortion because both are questions about when it is acceptable to kill."


There is a problem with the concept here. This is a category error in logic.

The Catholic Church recognizes the right of the state to execute someone convicted of a capital crime when the standard of beyond a reasonable doubt of guilt is met.

Abortion is in no way comperable. Abortion is the slaughter of a complete innocent , without a trial, without a crime and most of the time on the decision of the mother based on convenience.

The womans right to chose except in the context of rape comes before the decision to bed, not after.


20 posted on 05/15/2004 9:23:21 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (What do they call children in Palestine? Unexploded ordinance)
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