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1 posted on 05/17/2004 2:02:09 PM PDT by SJackson
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2 posted on 05/17/2004 2:06:20 PM PDT by SJackson (Arab leaders don't give a damn whether the refugees live or die, R. Garroway, UNWRA director, 8/58)
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Israel has their share of useful idiots, too.


3 posted on 05/17/2004 2:10:58 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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I agree totally, besides JESUS is coming back and I distinctly remember God saying in his WORD that Israel belonged to the Jews and that "those that bless you will I bless and those that curse you will I curse"...
He never said that to Ishmael, only to his mother that he would be great nation! Well Islam is huge alright, but not holy as we know holy! They do not inherit the blessings of the child of promise, Isaac, ancestor of Jesus.


4 posted on 05/17/2004 2:16:12 PM PDT by Kackikat
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The Jews are faced with constant killings on a daily or weekly basis, and yet are not united against the up close and personal threat of muslim atrocities.

I think part of the problem is two fold. The Jews in Israel don't have much in common except for the experience of anti- semitism.

First, being a Jew isn't a common bond , because some are agnostic,some are athiests, some are very religions, and some appear to be anti- semetic themselves, or at least appear to have a death wish.

Secondly the Israelis didn't all come from a common cultural background. IE Where all would be Russian Jews or all American Jews or all Brazillian Jews.

The Jews in Israel come from all over the world and now many were born there in Israel. They are a mongrelized society like we are. IMHO that is why they don't seems to be in agreement on a fundamental issue like handling the Muslims who are trying to kill them.

Running the country of Israel would be like trying to herd a bunch of cats. -Tom

6 posted on 05/17/2004 2:23:46 PM PDT by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse the Bushies with the dumb republicans. - Capt. Tom)
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Its like this.


I call it Einstein's political corollary to the Theory of Relativity.

Everything in politics is relative. Relative to how the observer views it.

Liberals do not reality as it is. They view reality as they wish it to be. They block out all reason, all logic, all facts of over five Thousnad years of demonstrably violent human social history and think they can "make a difference"

War is the normal state of human existence. Either you are the victor or you are the victim. That is reality. I would much rather be the victor, but modern western society increasingly produces people who refuse to learn from the past.

Islamic society, on the other hand, is increasingly producing more and more people who view reality as it is. Them versus us and they are electing to be the victors instead of the victims. Again, I would prefer to make THEM the victims by being the victor.


8 posted on 05/17/2004 7:16:22 PM PDT by ZULU
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