Posted on 05/18/2004 1:26:10 PM PDT by quidnunc
In World War II, a passer-by, lost in London's main official thoroughfare of Whitehall, stopped a military officer and asked him which side the Defense Department was on. The officer thought for a moment and then said: "Well, it's hard to be sure, but our side, I hope."
In the last week the coverage of Iraq by the U.S. media has exhibited at least four separate failings:
1. Selective Agonizing. Ever since the Abu Ghraib photographs emerged, the media has shown them on every possible occasion, accompanied by reports and editorials on America's shame and the world's revulsion. That is fine by me. The photographs are shocking evidence of shocking behavior Jerry Springer meets Saddam Hussein and we should be ashamed they occurred under American auspices But they are not the only story in the world.
Objectively considered, the U.N.'s "Oil-for-Food" scandal is a far bigger story, implicating not one international statesman but about two dozen, and involving not the abuse of suspected terrorists but the starvation of children. Interestingly, the media has been happy to forget it entirely in all their excitement over Abu Ghraib.
Then again, worse rape and brutality than those displayed in Abu Ghraib are known to occur daily in America's prisons without arousing any media interest at all. Indeed, the newspapers sometimes join D.A.'s in calling for crooked CEO's to be sentenced to ten year's hard sodomy. Maybe these jocular remarks about homosexual rape were among the influences that led the Abu Ghraib guards to abuse their victims. Big mistake. This gloating sadism is only a joke when suspected Republicans are the likely victims.
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We are now about to witness the nauseating spectacle of a trial of OUR OWN SOLDIERS, *in wartime*, in essence being publically fed to the wolves. I am disgusted by this.
This scandal may have just about passed its half-life. While the whole thing has been disturbing to most everyone, the humiliation suffered by the prisoners is in the whole scheme of things small potatoes.
Our soldiers are there to make sure the Baath doesn't return to power. They have overthrown them, they have squeezed them into the shadows, and they continue to kill them on a daily basis. The ones who are not killed wind up in a jail somewhere being mocked by female guards. Its not nice but they will live to see their kids grow up.
Under the previous regime a prisoner might have watched while the guards murdered his family right before his eyes. The abuses by a few guards, some of whom are prison guards in their civilian life (think about that one) in no way justifies the return of the Baath to power. And this is what it comes down to. If we lose our nerve, the Baath and all of their goons are back.
The soldiers aren't going to lose their nerve. If anyone loses their nerve it will be us.
That might be true - IF the show trials were not starting tomorrow.
"Then again, worse rape and brutality than those displayed in Abu Ghraib are known to occur daily in America's prisons without arousing any media interest at all."
Very, very true. Other than the occasional mention, the brutality in prisons goes unmentioned by the limousene liberals and elite academics, journalists, and assorted leftists. (Other than the silly call for freeing a known murderer, Mumia.)
A dear friend, very conservative, very dedicated runs a Mission in one of the worst prisons in the Northeast. Bono has yet to appear and call for more funding and better care.
The reason? The people in this prison are very dangerous people in there for good reason, but, they cope with conditions that make the treatment of Iraqis seem less heinous.
Where's Sean Penn, Madonna, Al Franken, Gwenyth Paltrow, and all the rest....? Don't our criminals deserve at least as good treatment as the Iraqi criminals and terrorists?
I agree about the scandal being press driven but we have to be objective. The investigations apparently were very thorough and started before the photos were released. These guards committed real offenses and will have a fair trial.
Its best for the military to maintain standards.
Posted on 05/18/2004 11:03:34 AM PDT by mrustow
On Thursday, May 6, Pres. Bush publicly apologized to Jordans King Abdullah II for the abuse of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib. I wasnt aware that Abdullah was the king of Iraq. Apparently, when America screws up, our leader must apologize to any and every Moslem in the world, to people who exuberantly support torture, as long as it is carried out by Moslems. I must have missed King Abdullah IIs apology for the butchering of four American civilians in Falluja. King Abdullah is a moderate, pro-U.S. Arab, which means that his statements in support of genocidal terrorists are couched in restrained tones, and with an aristocratic, Oxbridge accent.
And while being abused by Congress during his testimony last Friday, Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld offered his deepest apology to the abused prisoners.
The Arab Moslem world is obsessed with humiliating people, especially non-Moslems. All I have to say to President Bush is, Youre a better man than I am, Gunga Din. (For some pictures of our Falluja dead, see News Designer [1] and Free Republic [2]. Oddly enough, none of the 262 photographs of Falluja that I found archived at google images [3] was of the American victims. On the other hand, google also has no pictures of the abuse at Abu Ghraib. So much for its claim to be the most comprehensive image search on the web. Pictures from the Abu Ghraib scandal are available at the New Yorker [4].
Like Democrats and Arabs, Americas most corrupt newspaper [6] is also demanding that the President prostrate himself before it. In its lead house editorial, The New Iraq Crisis: Donald Rumsfeld Should Go [7], Fridays New York Times called for Secretary of Defense Rumsfelds head. Surprise, surprise. The Times, which due to its compulsive dishonesty, is disgraced on a regular basis -- if its owners, editors, and staffers have any sense of disgrace -- claimed that Rumsfeld should be fired, due to the abuses uncovered at Abu Ghraib. Never mind that a general was in charge of Abu Ghraib the general was a woman, Brig. Gen. Janice Karpinski. The Times, which has long supported the integration and promotion of women in the armed services, physical, technical, and leadership abilities be damned, wont tolerate punishing incompetent or insubordinate female officers. (The Times poster person for the military is Claudia Kennedy, the retired Army lieutenant general who owed her rise to feminist politicking, and whose greatest military accomplishment was in pulling an Anita Hill on Maj. Gen. Larry Smith, thus ending his career. In 1999, when Smith was up for a promotion, Kennedy claimed he had groped and attempted to kiss her three years earlier.)
In fact, the newspaper had sought to get Rumsfeld fired long before Sy Hersh broke the Abu Ghraib story. Abu Ghraib is a mere pretext for the Times, which always hated Rumsfeld for pursuing the Administrations policies with assertiveness, magnetism, and wit. The newspaper apparently hopes that if it can engineer the Secretarys ouster, it would send Pres. Bush and Rumsfelds successor a message to be more solicitous of the Times opinions, to engage in political self-castration, to surrender in Iraq and to give up any chance of being re-elected, come November. In other words, Pres. Bush should be a figurehead, and Times publisher Arthur Pinch Sulzberger Jr. should run the country.
(Although even the establishment medias own polls show Rumsfeld as more popular than the President, with only 20% of respondents seeking the Secretarys ouster, while 69% support him, establishment media figures continue to lie, and claim that the American people are upset with Rumsfeld. William F. Buckley [8], of all people, has claimed that The American people are so dumbfounded by what happened, they are listening attentively to a cry for the dismissal of Donald Rumsfeld. That would be the American people at the cocktail parties Buckley attends. Buckley isnt lying; its just that he is closer to the people of Azerbaijan than he is to the American people. In the face of such a media lynching, it is a good thing that The Federalist [9] has started a petition in support of Rumsfeld, which at this writing has over 104,000 signatures. Since the John Kerry campaign had earlier started a petition demanding Rumsfelds dismissal, which Kerrys people claim has over 250,000 signatures, it would be good if patriotic Americans could gather up 300,000 signatures for the Secretary, and even better, if we could get 1,000,000. Im not usually one for petitions, but Ive made an exception, and signed this one. The President has given Rumsfeld public votes of confidence, which are often the last thing a condemned man hears before being led to the gallows. A successful petition would help remind the President of just how much he supports Rumsfeld, while helping to counteract whatever Karl Rove is whispering in his ear. So please sign the petition, and get everyone you know to sign it. If you have kept compromising photos of your boss in safekeeping, now is the time to use them. If youre on reasonably good terms with your ex, have a get-together and during a tender moment whisper in his/her/its ear, You have to sign the petition to save Rummy!!!)
Note that as a young man, during the War in Vietnam, Pinch Sulzberger [10] supported the North Vietnamese communists killing as many American G.I.s as possible; he is now every bit the enemy of America that he was then. Sulzberger has done everything in his power to undermine the war effort, since before we even went to war with al Qaeda in Afghanistan. Just after 911, Sulzbergers lackeys wrote constantly of the quagmire awaiting us in Afghanistan, and while they failed to harm our boys and girls there, they did everything to ensure that theirs was a self-fulfilling prophecy in Iraq. (By the way, could someone please explain to me, what female military personnel have been doing in forward areas the past two-and-a-half years [11]?) Indeed, many of our problems in Iraq have been due to the Administration handcuffing American soldiers (e.g., not permitting American troops to impose martial law following the fall of Baghdad, and more recently in keeping them from leveling the mosques which are used by terrorists as ammunition dumps, gathering points, and sniper posts), so as not to enrage the Times and the socialist/communist street. (Or is it sensitive, suburban soccer moms about whom the Administration is so concerned?)
Had FDR had to endure such a hostile press during WWII, the western half of America would now be speaking Japanese, and the eastern half German. Then again, if Abe Lincoln had had to endure such a seditious press, he would have been forced to let the Confederate states go, and with them, the Union. Lincolns solution was to have all Northern newspapers critical of him shut down for the duration of the war.
(Heck, some Timesmen -- and lefty scribes elsewhere -- hate the President so much, that they appeared to wish him dead [12], on the occasion of last years secret Thanksgiving Day trip to visit our troops in Iraq.)
[1] http://www.newsdesigner.com/archives/cat_fallujah_photographs.php
[2] http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1131567/posts
[3] http://images.google.com/images?q=Fallujah+&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&start=0&sa=N
[4] http://newyorker.com/online/covers/?040510onco_covers_gallery
[5] http://newyorker.com/fact/content/?040510fa_fact
[6] http://geocities.com/nstix/blairiii.html
[7] http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/07/opinion/07FRI1.html
[8] http://www.nationalreview.com/buckley/buckley200405111231.asp
[9] http://patriotpetitions.us/
[10] http://geocities.com/nstix/blairx.html
[11] http://adifferentdrummer.blogspot.com/2003_04_27_adifferentdrummer_archive.html
[12] http://toogoodreports.com/column/general/stix/20031201.htm
[13] http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/07/opinion/07FRI2.html
[14] http://geocities.com/nstix/geneva.html
[15] http://www.genevaconventions.org/
[16] http://www.icrc.org/Web/eng/siteeng0.nsf/htmlall/party_gc/$File/Conventions%20de%20GenSve%20et%20Protocoles%20additionnels%20ENG-logo.pdf
[17] http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/07/opinion/07LEWI.html?pagewanted=print&position=
[18] http://www.wnd.com/news/printer-friendly.asp?ARTICLE_ID=25744
[19] http://www.massnews.com/2003_Editions/2003_Print_Editions/04_Apr/040103_mn_marshall_obsessed_with_feminism.shtml
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