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WHO WAS HUMILIATED MORE, PARRIS ISLAND RECRUITS OR IRAQ PRISONERS? (Warning, strong lauguage/images)
self | 7-May-04 | RaceBannon

Posted on 05/07/2004 2:26:54 PM PDT by RaceBannon

All right.

That does it.

I am going to say it.

EVERYONE who ever went to boot camp was humiliated more than these people were in Baghdad.

And I mean EVERYONE!


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KEYWORDS: abuse; boot; camp; iraq; iraqipow; island; marines; parris; parrisisland; semperfi; usmc
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I am sick to death of hearing how abusive this treatment was to these prisoners.

We were treated worse at Boot Camp than these people were.

And every veteran here knows it.

And NONE of us are asking for the president of our time period to apologize to us for it, either!

I may have never had to simulate sex acts with other men, but I did see men ordered to simulate masturbation with a hot dog, seen men cry about having to wet their pants, seen men humiliated over dear john letters in front of the platoon...

And since I was in Parris Island in the late 70's, I went through one of the easiest times Parris Island ever saw.

The 1960's Marine Corps vets and Army Vets are invited to post what happened in their platoons to show America and the world just what abuse is: BOOT CAMP IS ABUSE>

Scaring people who were trying to kill you is not abuse!

1 posted on 05/07/2004 2:26:55 PM PDT by RaceBannon
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To: RaceBannon; kdf1; AMERIKA; Lancey Howard; MudPuppy; SMEDLEYBUTLER; opbuzz; Snow Bunny; ...
Mere words cannot erase these images.

And I dont hear the Arab or Muslim world apologizing to us for these acts, either, I hear them rejoicing over it!

2 posted on 05/07/2004 2:29:21 PM PDT by RaceBannon (VOTE DEMOCRAT AND LEARN ARABIC FREE!!)
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To: RaceBannon
Race, read my tag line. 'Nuff said.
3 posted on 05/07/2004 2:30:15 PM PDT by Poohbah (We are at war with them. We are not them.)
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To: RaceBannon
Parris Island has to win hands down! My son graduated Parris Island, I was happy to see him alive and standing on the parade ground.
4 posted on 05/07/2004 2:31:30 PM PDT by TrueBeliever9 (aut viam inveniam aut faciam (where there is a will - there is a way)
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To: RaceBannon

5 posted on 05/07/2004 2:32:22 PM PDT by RaceBannon (VOTE DEMOCRAT AND LEARN ARABIC FREE!!)
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To: RaceBannon
But your a Marine. There is a difference.
6 posted on 05/07/2004 2:32:31 PM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: RaceBannon
Bump for later. I'm gonna fry some libs with those photos.
7 posted on 05/07/2004 2:34:03 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: RaceBannon
The pre-basic physical was, without a doubt, a very traumatic time. I was forced to stand in a line of about 50 naked guys, while the doctor poked, prodded, and made us caugh.

"Bend over and spread your cheeks" was the command.

"Small b**ls, this man has small b**ls", one doc shouted, when examining one of the 17 year olds.

I was fortunate, but still embarrassed. I was 20 at the time, and had seen a good portion of the world.

Some of the kids just broke down and cried.

One failed because he had big boobs. He was led out of the room crying, too.

That was the medical exam just prior to raising our arms and taking the oath.
8 posted on 05/07/2004 2:37:50 PM PDT by Lokibob (All typos and spelling errors are mine and copyrighted!!!!)
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To: Poohbah
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9 posted on 05/07/2004 2:38:26 PM PDT by RaceBannon (VOTE DEMOCRAT AND LEARN ARABIC FREE!!)
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Just out of curiousity, did the DIs ever sodomize recruits with chemlights and broomsticks?

Taguba found the allegation "credible." That's JAGMAN-speak for "conviction guaranteed at court-martial."
10 posted on 05/07/2004 2:40:24 PM PDT by Poohbah (We are at war with them. We are not them.)
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To: RaceBannon
Drudge has a link that the pixs we've seen are the tip of the iceberg. Some of the stuff described there is pretty bad. It looks like these guards were scum.

OTOH, I wonder why those Dems (and CBSNBCNYTIMES) weren't calling for the head of Gray Davis when abuses just as bad were found in his state prisons.

11 posted on 05/07/2004 2:41:37 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7
Some of the GIs in question were prison guards in civilian life. You gets what you pays for......
12 posted on 05/07/2004 2:49:43 PM PDT by tracer
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To: RaceBannon
" EVERYONE who ever went to boot camp was humiliated more than these people were in Baghdad. And I mean EVERYONE! "

I just have missed Homo Eroticism Day. Or perhaps some don’t consider that as humiliating as others. [smile]

13 posted on 05/07/2004 2:51:09 PM PDT by elfman2
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To: RaceBannon
Don't know about the Marines but I had 17 weeks of infantry replacement training in wartime WW II where we learned how to shoot and defend ourselves. GIs were taught how to kill. When we captured the enemy, we never got to taking their clothes off, piling them naked and looking at their c-cks. Participating in these perversions would have been more demoralizing to us than to them.
14 posted on 05/07/2004 2:51:39 PM PDT by ex-snook (Neocon Chickenhawk for War like Liberal Cuckoo for Welfare. Both freeload.)
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To: RaceBannon
Until now I had not seen these pictures. I can't imagin...
I don't even know what to say.
These pictures you posted are REAL PERSPECTIVE!

As much as I hate "seeing" what was done by our soldiers; this is WAR and sometimes prisoners may get humiliated!

At least these Iraqi men were not burned to death, dragged through the streets, had their dead bodies hung on a bridge, had their organs spit on and kicked through the streets only to be eaten my rats, dogs while crowds cheered.

15 posted on 05/07/2004 2:51:44 PM PDT by GottaLuvAkitas1
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Boot was as worse. I was a little too ebuillient one night and a nasty female cop played some crappy games with me sorta like that white trash did.

And I pledged a frat...it was worse than that...and I didn't feed anyone into any plastic shredders or beat people with axehandles or rip tongues out or throw people off roofs or kill children in front of their mothers or any of the wonderful things Teddy Kennedy seems to want to absolve these scumbags.

PATHETIC!

16 posted on 05/07/2004 2:55:23 PM PDT by Benrand
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I graduated July 3, 73. There were multiple internal investigations for cruelty in my platoon. The Senior "Explained" to us the correct response to any and all questions the investigators would/could possibly ask.

Then, we went back to bends and thrusts until supper time. <|:-)~~
17 posted on 05/07/2004 2:56:54 PM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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What really offends me, is all this (*^*&%)*&%)(*_*^ apologizing all over the place!

Yeah, the treatment wasn't right, but for Pete's sakes....

"PC" is going to be the death of us all, if we don't get this touchy feely crap under control!
18 posted on 05/07/2004 2:58:17 PM PDT by Howie66 ("America will never seek a permission slip to defend the security of our people.")
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I don't quite know how to say this but I was never at Parris Island and I may have never faced anything like this. I am an U. S. Air Force veteran and other things were done to us to accomplish what ever was needed by the Sergaents that turned you into a Marine and me into an Airman. I know I was in an unappreciated field of endeaveor but you and I are Brothers who served the most wonderful country on Gods earth. These whining socialist driven liberals can go to !#$$ about this abuse subject. If those poor abused prisoners would have had our guys prisoners, you could only imagine the abuses they would have done to them. God Bless you and all the rest of us who served the United States of America one nation under God with Liberty and Justice for all. May God watch over our younger brothers and sisters who are taking care of things now.
19 posted on 05/07/2004 2:58:34 PM PDT by JOE43270 (JOE43270)
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To: RaceBannon
We do worse to our own convicts...much worse.

The Feds will do naked boxcar on yer ass quick if you seriously misbehave.

This is a joke....we don't have the will to prevail politically.

The world is laughing at us.
20 posted on 05/07/2004 3:00:08 PM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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