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In Iraq, America's Shakeout Moment
NY Times ^ | May 18, 2004 | DAVID BROOKS

Posted on 05/18/2004 7:48:04 PM PDT by neverdem

There's something about our venture into Iraq that is inspiringly, painfully, embarrassingly and quintessentially American.

No other nation would have been hopeful enough to try to evangelize for democracy across the Middle East. No other nation would have been naïve enough to do it this badly. No other nation would be adaptable enough to recover from its own innocence and muddle its way to success, as I suspect we are about to do.

American history sometimes seems to be the same story repeated over and over again. Some group of big-dreaming but foolhardy adventurers head out to eradicate some evil and to realize some golden future. They get halfway along their journey and find they are unprepared for the harsh reality they suddenly face. It's too late to turn back, so they reinvent their mission. They toss out illusions and adopt an almost desperate pragmatism. They never do realize the utopia they initially dreamed about, but they do build something better than what came before.

This basic pattern has marked our national style from the moment British colonists landed on North American shores. Overly optimistic about the conditions they would find, the colonists were woefully undercapitalized, underequipped and underskilled. At Jamestown, there were three gentlemen and gentlemen's servants for every skilled laborer. They didn't bother to plant enough grain to see them through the winter.

But they learned and adapted. Settlement companies were compelled to send more workers, along with axes, chisels, scythes, millstones and seeds. Eventually the colonies thrived.

Centuries later, it was much the same. The guides who aided and fleeced the pioneers who moved West were struck by how clueless many of them were about the wilderness they were entering. Their diaries show that many thought they could establish genteel New England-style villages in short order. They leapt before they looked, faced the shock of reality, adapted and cobbled together something unexpected.

And it is that way today. We are tricked by hope into starting companies, beginning books, immigrating to this country and investing in telecom networks. The challenges turn out to be tougher than we imagined. Our excessive optimism is exposed. New skills are demanded. But nothing important was ever begun in a prudential frame of mind.

Hope begets disappointment, and we are now in a moment of disappointment when it comes to Iraq. During these shakeout moments, the naysayers get to gloat while the rest of us despair, lacerate ourselves, second-guess those in charge and look at things anew. But this very process of self-criticism is the precondition for the second wind, the grubbier, less illusioned effort that often enough leads to some acceptable outcome.

Today in Iraq local commanders seem to be allowed to try anything. We are allowing former Baathists to man a Falluja Brigade to police their own city. We are pounding Moktada al-Sadr while negotiating with him. There is talk of moving up elections so when an Iraqi official is assassinated, he is not seen as a person working with the U.S., but as a duly elected representative of the Iraqi people.

Some of these policies seem incoherent, but they may work. And back home a new mood has taken over part of the political class. The emerging responsible faction has no time now for the witless applause lines the jeering jackdaws on left and right repeat to themselves to their own perpetual self-admiration and delight. Even in a political year, most politicians do not want this country to fail.

There are, for example, members of Congress from both parties who feel estranged from this administration. They feel it does not listen to their ideas. But in this troubled hour, they are desperate to help. If but a call were made, they would burst forth with intelligent suggestions: about Iraq, about political tactics, about getting additional appropriations.

Remember, the most untrue truism in human history is that there are no second acts in American life. In reality, there is nothing but second acts. There are shakeout moments and, redundantly, new beginnings. The weeks until June 30 are bound to be awful, but we may be at the start of a new beginning now.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: davidbrooks; iraq; middleeast

1 posted on 05/18/2004 7:48:05 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
There are, for example, members of Congress from both parties who feel estranged from this administration. They feel it does not listen to their ideas. But in this troubled hour, they are desperate to help. If but a call were made, they would burst forth with intelligent suggestions: about Iraq, about political tactics, about getting additional appropriations.

Are these the same fellows that sat idly by in 1996 when Usama bin Laden declared war on America?

And could they be the same fellows who sat idly by in 1998 when he once again declared war on America?

Would this be the same Congress that witnessed our soldiers be attacked aat Khobar Towers and did not declare war?

The same fine fellows full of good ideas and a willingness to do the tough work that was demanded when our sailors were killed on the USS Cole?

No thanks Mr Brooks, they had their chance. I'm sticking with Bush, Cheney and Rummy.

2 posted on 05/18/2004 7:52:44 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: neverdem

Who is David Brooks?


3 posted on 05/18/2004 7:56:40 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: jwalsh07
"I'm sticking with Bush, Cheney and Rummy"

Ditto!

4 posted on 05/18/2004 7:57:52 PM PDT by trek
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To: neverdem
they learned and adapted

What was it that Clint Eastwood said in that movie where he played a Recon sgt?

5 posted on 05/18/2004 8:05:31 PM PDT by gilliam
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To: Sam Cree

PBS's token conservative


6 posted on 05/18/2004 8:08:50 PM PDT by gilliam
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To: neverdem
Some group of big-dreaming but foolhardy adventurers head out to eradicate some evil and to realize some golden future. They get halfway along their journey and find they are unprepared for the harsh reality they suddenly face. It's too late to turn back, so they reinvent their mission. They toss out illusions and adopt an almost desperate pragmatism. They never do realize the utopia they initially dreamed about, ...

A good description of most liberal programs.

7 posted on 05/18/2004 8:12:32 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all things that need to be done need to be done by the government.)
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To: Sam Cree

"Who is David Brooks?"

He's joins Bill Safire as the now two resident Times conservative OpEd columnists. They each get 2 columns a week. His last employer was The Weekly Standard. Every Friday night he argues against Mark Shields from "The Capitol Gang" on PBS' "The News Hour".


8 posted on 05/18/2004 8:13:28 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: gilliam; neverdem

Thanks.


9 posted on 05/18/2004 8:15:35 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: jwalsh07

Congress ia almost uniformly made up of 'get along to go alongers'.


10 posted on 05/18/2004 8:16:08 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt
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To: gilliam

The movie was about the invasion of Grenada, but I can't remember the title of the movie, let alone the line from Clint.


11 posted on 05/18/2004 8:18:15 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

something like 'learn, adapt, overcome' ... but that doesn't sound right....


12 posted on 05/18/2004 8:19:29 PM PDT by gilliam
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To: gilliam

Was the title "Heartbreak Ridge"?


13 posted on 05/18/2004 8:21:04 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

Breakheart Ridge.


14 posted on 05/18/2004 8:21:24 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: neverdem

yep, that was the movie... now what was the line?


15 posted on 05/18/2004 8:21:46 PM PDT by gilliam
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To: neverdem
No other nation would have been hopeful enough to try to evangelize for democracy across the Middle East. No other nation would have been naïve enough to do it this badly. No other nation would be adaptable enough to recover from its own innocence and muddle its way to success, as I suspect we are about to do.

The thought underlying this paragraph quintessentially embodies the negativism that pervades the media. We don't want any bumps in the road; we don't want to have to persevere or sacrifice. It's the American 30 minute sitcom mentality. Let's get everything wrapped up nice and neat and get on to the next show.

Heaven help the world if these people had been around during World War II. Can you imagine the carping after Bataan and Corregidor, after the fall of Wake Island, after losing the Lexington in the Coral Sea, after the heavy losses in Ironbottom Sound, after the sinking of the destroyer that claimed the lives of the 5 Sullivan brothers. The character of this country has unquestionably changed for the worse. I seriously question whether the United States has the fortitude to persevere with the difficult tasks that lie ahead. We are about to find out in this election if the core of this country has gone so soft, has become so thoroughly rotted that we are unwilling to fight the battle against terrorism to the end. God help us.

16 posted on 05/18/2004 8:22:59 PM PDT by Gee Wally
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To: neverdem

Got it! Did a google search on heartbreak ridge and adapt. "Improvise, Adapt, Overcome" -Gunnery Sgt. Tom Highway.


17 posted on 05/18/2004 8:23:30 PM PDT by gilliam
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Breakheart Ridge. Whatever, can you help gilliam with Clint's line.?


18 posted on 05/18/2004 8:24:57 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

Sure looks like Ted Rall's characterization of Brooks turning against the war was untrue. Good to learn. Another big demerit for Rall.


19 posted on 05/18/2004 8:29:07 PM PDT by Paul_B
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To: gilliam

How did google find a line of dialogue? What was your search strategy?


20 posted on 05/18/2004 8:32:43 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: Paul_B

What did Rall do? Since his disrespect for Pat Tillman I have no respect for Rall.


21 posted on 05/18/2004 8:35:36 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

The problem is, nobody has ever written an operations manual for freeing a country of 25 million people who have lived under a dictator for 35 years. Had there been one, I'm sure we wouldn't have made mistakes. However, I think we're actually doing quite well. Remember, Japan wasn't ready for it's new government until 4 years after we got there.


22 posted on 05/18/2004 8:45:49 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: gilliam
What was it that Clint Eastwood said in that movie where he played a Recon

It's from "Heartbreak Ridge" he said:. "They improvised ,they adapted, they overcame."

23 posted on 05/18/2004 8:57:20 PM PDT by Nateman (Socialism first, cancer second.)
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To: neverdem

entered the following in the search bar: +heartbreak +adapt


24 posted on 05/18/2004 8:59:32 PM PDT by gilliam
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To: gilliam

Thank you. I will try it myself.


25 posted on 05/18/2004 9:12:32 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: gilliam

Amazing!


26 posted on 05/18/2004 9:17:14 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

yep, just think how long you would of had to research that in a library without computers!


27 posted on 05/18/2004 9:19:49 PM PDT by gilliam
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To: McGavin999
The problem is, nobody has ever written an operations manual for freeing a country of 25 million people who have lived under a dictator for 35 years. Had there been one, I'm sure we wouldn't have made mistakes. However, I think we're actually doing quite well. Remember, Japan wasn't ready for it's new government until 4 years after we got there.

They may have written it, but rest assured if they did, it's a piece of crap. If you listen to NPR, you'll hear minor Clinton administration ex-functionaries or random liberal intellectuals talk about studies that were done on nation-building. Always, always, whining about George W. Bush not consulting them. I observe that W. and Rummy did it their own way. That's essential. If they had consulted all these weenies, it would have been disaster-by-committee.

28 posted on 05/18/2004 9:24:48 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: neverdem

I see little evidence of good will from leading Democrats, e.g. Kennedy and Kerry, but rather an overwhelming desire to see Bush lose rather than to see America win.


29 posted on 05/18/2004 9:25:15 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: jwalsh07
they would burst forth with intelligent suggestions

HAHAHA The NT Times editorial page ought to be renamed the "Comedy" section. Either that or put up a big graphic of Ricardo Montalban saying, "Welcome to Fantasy Island..."

30 posted on 05/18/2004 9:33:08 PM PDT by pierrem15
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To: neverdem
Hope begets disappointment, and we are now in a moment of disappointment when it comes to Iraq. During these shakeout moments, the naysayers get to gloat while the rest of us despair, lacerate ourselves, second-guess those in charge and look at things anew. But this very process of self-criticism is the precondition for the second wind, the grubbier, less illusioned effort that often enough leads to some acceptable outcome.

Brilliant analogy. I know the stock market. When fear is at a maximum, buy. Now is the time to buy stock in the success of Iraq - it will rise from here.

31 posted on 05/18/2004 10:44:18 PM PDT by WOSG (Peace through Victory! Iraq victory, W victory, American victory!)
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To: Gee Wally

Brooks' brilliance is that he lives in the NYTimes soup. He has to respond to it. But he turns it on its head so that the illogic of the NYTimes and their despair is exposed as needless pessimism.

Of *course* we make mistakes, get over-optimistic, lose our way... that is the way of any great and difficult enterprise.... Brooks is pounding into the Liberal Class the point you make.... we "muddled" mightily in WWII as well, did we not? our first engagement in North Africa was horrible. and you mention ...

"Can you imagine the carping after Bataan and Corregidor, after the fall of Wake Island, after losing the Lexington in the Coral Sea, after the heavy losses in Ironbottom Sound, after the sinking of the destroyer that claimed the lives of the 5 Sullivan brothers."

Yup!!! We've been through much worse.

" The character of this country has unquestionably changed for the worse." Nah, just the character of the media.


32 posted on 05/18/2004 10:49:31 PM PDT by WOSG (Peace through Victory! Iraq victory, W victory, American victory!)
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To: neverdem

Somewhere, probably here, I came across a recent editorial by Rall, where he outlined how many conservatives had changed their minds on the war, how Bush was isolated, etc. It sounded persuasive, but here Brooks directly contradicts what Rall said about him. Rall had used a direct Brooks quote, so I can only conclude he took it out of context.


33 posted on 05/19/2004 3:33:50 AM PDT by Paul_B
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To: Paul_B

Thank you.


34 posted on 05/19/2004 8:56:07 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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