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Anyone else see PBS "Colonial House"
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Posted on 05/19/2004 11:25:10 AM PDT by KeyLargo

Did anyone else watch the 2 night PBS series, "Colonial House"?

I couldn't finish the second night after the gay guy came out of the closet. I am a history buff and thought that the program might be interesting but when I saw that the usual political correctness of PBS showed through by having participants that were either gay, or women's libers, atheists, and calfornia liberal college professors I could not watch it any more. Anyone else have a different take on this?

Backbeat Survivor: 1628

Chico State profs go back in time for reality TV series

By Devanie Angel

TIME TRAVELER Carolyn Heinz said the women enjoyed the challenge of coming up with creative meals using minimal supplies.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/colonialhouse/

Thirteen/WNET, the production company that filmed Colonial House for PBS, wants all press inquiries to "cast members" to go through its New York office, but the News & Review and the Heinzes chose to disregard that.When some professors take time off, they travel to an exotic locale or enjoy some mind-easing down time. Don and Carolyn Heinz spent their "vacation" in 1628 colonial New England.

As participants in Colonial House, the sixth installment in PBS's series that takes a couple of dozen people and thrusts them into a snapshot of history, the Heinzes spent nearly five months in rural Maine, on a "set" constructed to mimic the lives of settlers, right down to how they ate, slept and took care of bodily needs.

For the married Chico State professors, whose prior reality show experience was watching a couple of episodes of Survivor three years ago, it was all about the intellectual experience.

"What interested us as intellectuals was that we could actually enter a historical period that one reads about and lectures about but doesn't live in," said Don Heinz, who is partially retired from teaching religious studies. His wife teaches anthropology.

The trip back in time wasn’t even their idea; it was their daughter Susan's.

"She applied for us, and we didn't know anything about it," said Carolyn Heinz. The producers were especially eager to get Don Heinz on board. As a real-life Lutheran pastor, he was cast as the colony's lay preacher and assistant governor.

The series' filming ended in October 2003, but before it was over the Heinzes had tried to pull out of the project more than once.

They were already forgoing professors' wages to participate (PBS paid them $10,000 apiece), and the couple began worrying that they were the only ones in it for the historical experience. "We were afraid we would be the schmucks who were taking it seriously," Carolyn Heinz said. "Nobody's heads were in the 17th century."

Also, the producers told the preacher they would allow him no books, even though his research of the time showed that someone in his position would have a large library. And they told Carolyn Heinz she couldn't keep a journal.

"It was going to be five months with no books and nothing to write on," she said, and that was a deal-breaker.

Eventually the producers relented, and the Heinzes were back in--Don with a copy of Pilgrim's Progress and Carolyn with some sheets of period-correct paper and a feather quill for a pen.

Photo By Tom Angel

When Don Heinz was named governor of the colony, he was able to draw from his academic studies for a historically accurate representation.

The only other exceptions to historical accuracy were the addition of bug repellant, sunscreen and tampons. The producers allowed toothbrushes after participants threatened to sue if the flavored twigs they were using caused dental bills.

"There were endless discussions and arguments off camera with the production crew," Don Heinz said.

Because of the head-butting and the close-quarters intensity that drives reality shows, the couple is somewhat worried about how the producers will portray them through editing. It may be PBS, but it's still television.

The series will air May 17, 18, 24 and 25 from 8 to 10 p.m., and online synopses make frequent mention of the Heinzes, going so far as to derisively characterize Don Heinz, who has extensive knowledge of early religions, as "somewhat of a history buff."

"We felt to some extent they trivialized us," he said of the 20- and 30-something producers. "They were annoyed that we were always correcting them and challenging them. I think they probably thought we were something of a pain in the butt."

The Heinzes are suspending judgment until they see what airs, and they're not sure they even want friends and family over for their first viewing.

"It was a very intense social community," Carolyn Heinz said. "But in the end, it is reality television, and what they want is a good show that is going to get a lot of people watching it.

"It was pretty clear the cameras were after the quarrels and the struggles among the [people] rather than authenticity."

The show’s cast was primed for the experience by spending two weeks at the Plimouth Plantation, where actors, always in character, taught what it was like during the time of the Massachusetts Bay Colony. (The Colonial House residents weren't supposed to play-act, but rather maintain their own personalities in the context of the time.)

In spite, or perhaps because of, the fact that the Heinzes, who are in their early 60s, were the most senior members of the "cast," they had little trouble adjusting to the physical demands of colonial life. They didn't mind washing their hair once a month, eating moldy meat or going without toilet paper.

Photo By Tom Angel

PREACHER MAN While colonists of the 17th century would have been subjected to a full day of worship, lay preacher Don Heinz kept his sermons to less than two and one-half hours. He planned his addresses over the course of each week; one of his favorite topics was the struggle to build communities in difficult times.

"Half the world lives that way today," said Carolyn Heinz, who has resided with less-developed cultures as part of her academic work.

The biggest surprise--and disappointment--for the Heinzes was that the environment stifled rather than piqued creative thought.

"It suppressed creativity," Carolyn Heinz said. "I felt myself fading intellectually. There was no sharing of ideas. We were hunkered down to endure."

Two months into the filming, they almost left again, sick of the sheer tedium of it all.

But even through the monotony, drama was unfolding among the colonists.

Don Heinz was irked that, even though it was the law of the time that everyone attend church services, he was forced to deal with a handful of modern-day atheists who refused to play along.

In the midst of what the preacher called "the Sabbath wars," one participant skipped church to go skinny dipping--an historically unlikely escapade that earned her the punishment of being bound and paraded around by her husband.

It's that type of clip that the Heinzes are sure will make it to the final edit as the producers condensed 700 hours of film into eight hours of air time.

The Heinzes also had an indentured servant, 24-year-old Jonathon Allen, who did chores by day and slept on a straw mat at the foot of their bed by night.

One day, at a church service, Allen revealed that he was gay--an emotional moment for him in part because he wasn't "out" in real life.

Photo By Tom Angel

HOUSE RULES Carolyn Heinz, shown with her husband, Don, in their Chico home, convinced Colonial House producers to allow her to keep this journal. During filming, participants were allowed to receive mail twice, under the pretext that it had come by ship from the "Old World."

The news didn't faze the Heinzes. "You're talking to two Northern California liberals here," Don Heinz said. However, it did bother him from the perspective that "it's not the way anything would have happened in the 17th century."

Partway into the series, the colonists, all of whom were furnished with "back stories" about their lives in Europe, were joined by a man from the English homeland checking on the "investment." (The colonists were supposed to be making money off their work on the land.)

That threw the settlement's structure on its ear, and, when the governor's family had to leave after a real-life emergency, Don Heinz became acting governor.

"I think I had been chaffing to be governor all along," he admitted.

The PBS Web site also claims that Carolyn Heinz was "hell-bent on serving as de facto governor via her husband, an arrangement that would have been highly unlikely in the 17th century."

"I simply had ideas about how things should work," she countered. "There would have been strong-minded, opinionated women who had to live in patriarchal societies."

When the cameras weren’t filming, the participants, who included several children, talked freely about the outside world. Many of them became friends.

The Heinzes have kept in touch with Allen, their indentured servant, via e-mail, even helping him get into graduate school. Recently, he drove to Chico from South Carolina for a visit.

At the end of the series' filming, the cast members were asked if they'd do it again. "There weren't many people who said yes," Don Heinz said. "I suppose we're glad we did it, but we would not do it again."


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1 posted on 05/19/2004 11:25:12 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo
PBS ruined any historical accuracy by throwing in atheists and homosexuals and celebrities. They chose to focus on entertainment rather than history.

We had a pretty good discussion over here: Oprah Goes Back In Time In PBS 'Colonial House'

2 posted on 05/19/2004 11:28:10 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: KeyLargo
"I felt myself fading intellectually.

I found the same thing happening to myself as a watched a bit of this stupidity.

Thankfully, before it was too late, I was able to quickly change the channel to "The Simpsons".

3 posted on 05/19/2004 11:32:50 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (Expect me when you see me!)
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To: stainlessbanner
PBS ruined any historical accuracy by throwing in atheists and homosexuals and celebrities.

Just what we need - Queer Eye for the Puritan Guy.

4 posted on 05/19/2004 11:34:16 AM PDT by dirtboy (John Kerry - Hillary without the fat ankles and the FBI files...)
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To: KeyLargo

I agree with you. I was pissed when the Governor suspended the Sabbath then all the other junk came up.

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5 posted on 05/19/2004 11:34:22 AM PDT by AgentEcho (If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went. - Will Rogers)
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To: stainlessbanner
Dear PBS:

I refuse to watch shows like this that are beneath me and insult my intelligence. And my Mommy and Daddy don't watch them either.

6 posted on 05/19/2004 11:39:02 AM PDT by ZGuy
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To: KeyLargo
Both this series, and the earlier "Prarie House" (?) were disappointing - focusing on the whining participants rather than illustrating the real hardships and lifestyles of the periods.

My thought when the homosexual came out of the closet - he probably would have been killed, exiled, or had certain body parts "sewed up."
7 posted on 05/19/2004 11:39:32 AM PDT by frankenMonkey
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To: dirtboy

hehehe I did for about 20 minutes. It was so poorly done, I first thought it was a documentary on some cult hippy commune. No kidding.


8 posted on 05/19/2004 11:40:01 AM PDT by USNFighting31st
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To: KeyLargo; Travis McGee; tallhappy; Grampa Dave; Alouette; Cachelot
I didn't see the incident that offended you, but I did hear the segment on the first encounter with Indians. The words "genocide" and "holocaust" came up, and it was just like listening to Adolf Hitler justifying the final solution: the narrator said that what we did to the Indians was much worse than what the Nazis did to the Jews.

There was no mention of the fact that Jews were productive members of European society, and were supportive of their nations' cultures and legal structures.

If the media had been shaping attitudes in 1609, there would not be an America as we know it today. Now that the media and its classroom cohorts are shaping attitudes with a vengence now, how long will America stand?

Folks, are we the last of the Mohicans?


9 posted on 05/19/2004 11:40:07 AM PDT by risk
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To: stainlessbanner

I just couldnt watch it. IMO it was poorly produced the characters were boring and some of the scenarios seemed unlikely.


10 posted on 05/19/2004 11:40:15 AM PDT by aft_lizard (This space reserved for Sean Hannity to usurp:-))
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To: KeyLargo
This whole series is absolute, total, absurd, bull-hockey. Here's an example of what really happened to "out of the closet" types in colonial America taken from http://www.ulster.net/~hrmm/halfmoon/gehring.htm

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"The diarist, Harmen Meyndertsa van den Bogaert, went on to become a prominent privateer and commissary in Manhattan — until the fall of 1647, when he was accused of sodomy, an offense punishable by drowning. After escaping and fleeing into the wilderness, van den Bogaert was recaptured and imprisoned at Fort Orange. As the authorities were awaiting the thaw to take him back to Manhattan for execution, he escaped across the frozen Hudson only to have it give way. He disappeared beneath the ice."

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I watched about 20 minutes of the first episode, but turned it off as soon as the "I don't want to go to church" conversation started. Made me sick. I am now VERY glad I did.
11 posted on 05/19/2004 11:42:04 AM PDT by Antoninus (Federal Marriage Amendment, NOW!)
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To: KeyLargo

Gee, watching PBS was your first mistake.


12 posted on 05/19/2004 11:42:08 AM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: KeyLargo

I watched some of it. I was disappointed.
These people made zero attempt to fit the perieod, unlike Frontier House which I saw and liked.
I quit after the gay guy announced. In 1628, he'd have been burned alive.


13 posted on 05/19/2004 11:44:01 AM PDT by Adder (Can we bring back stoning again? Please?)
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To: richardtavor

"Gee, watching PBS was your first mistake."

You're right. Like an idiot moth attracted to the flame!

I can't help myself. I need to join PBS Anonymous.


14 posted on 05/19/2004 11:45:17 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: AgentEcho
I was pissed when the Governor suspended the Sabbath then all the other junk came up.

Under the restrictions he was under, he probably did the pragmatic thing. He could not implement the real displicine that would have ensured compliance so participation was becoming a joke. Plus forcing people to go to church was stupid anyway (although I realize they were trying to be as authentic as possible).

15 posted on 05/19/2004 11:45:36 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: KeyLargo

Agreed. My wife & I are idealogical opposites, but both of us found the "coming out" announcement to be distasteful. Seemed like the guy just wanted to make a big deal about his sexual preference so he could reclaiim his "victim" status. Its interesting from a psyche status: 20th Century Amercians are SO attached to their victimhood. Did anyone find his INTOLERANT remarks about those who abhor sodomy to be ironic? LOL. Funny how its always the Left that stereotypes others as being hateful and ignorant.

In general, the episode grew tiresome as it became apparent that very few peeps were interested in recreating the hardships of the 17th Century. Females arguing about being punished for profanity, the English guy "exploring" for a beer outside the park at the local town pub, whining about having to sit through 2 3-hour sermons on the sabbath. I have trouble understanding why tolerant atheists and agnostics would refuse to role-play through this. In the 17th Century you went along with the Church or were persecuted. So much for their integrity and "courage".


16 posted on 05/19/2004 11:48:21 AM PDT by Fenris6
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To: KeyLargo

Like most of you, I could have used less 21st drama and more 17th century history. But the parts of the show that illustrated the 17th century were interesting to me.

The Governor and his family seem well chosen for their roles -- I'm glad they felt able to return for episodes 3 and 4. And I gotta give them credit to the producers for choosing the two ministers from such typical blue state and red state type personalities -- I thought it was a nice touch to have such different people on the show.

Oh, and I wish the colonists had a wheellock or a blunderbuss or something -- wouldn't that have looked cool on TV, and been historically accurate as well?


17 posted on 05/19/2004 11:50:42 AM PDT by 68skylark (.)
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To: risk
I didn't see the incident that offended you, but I did hear the segment on the first encounter with Indians. The words "genocide" and "holocaust" came up, and it was just like listening to Adolf Hitler justifying the final solution: the narrator said that what we did to the Indians was much worse than what the Nazis did to the Jews.

Such nonsense. I heard that the Indians who arrived convenietly spoke English as well--highly unlikely in 1628.

As for the Indian wars being worse than what the Nazis did to the Jews--sheer historical revisionist idiocy. Most of the tribes were decimated by European diseases (not purposely spread, contrary to prevailing mythology) and intertribal warfare long before settlers showed up on their lands. And in terms of sheer numbers killed in war, I would argue that many more Indians were slaughtered at the hands of rival tribes than by whites. The Iroquois themselves were guilty of destroying the following nations that are today completely extinct or nearly so:

Huron
Petun
Neutral
Erie
Susquehannock

Each of these nations are estimated to have numbered some 20-40,000 at their heights. The Iroquois also constantly warred with every other nation on their borders including the Mahicans, Delawares, Montagnais, Algonquins, Shawnee, Miami, Ottawa, and dozens of others long before the whites ever arrived in those parts.
18 posted on 05/19/2004 11:51:18 AM PDT by Antoninus (Federal Marriage Amendment, NOW!)
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To: KeyLargo

It's no Frontier House, that's for sure.


19 posted on 05/19/2004 11:54:11 AM PDT by cruiserman
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To: KeyLargo
Don Heinz was irked that, even though it was the law of the time that everyone attend church services, he was forced to deal with a handful of modern-day atheists who refused to play along....In the midst of what the preacher called "the Sabbath wars," one participant skipped church to go skinny dipping--an historically unlikely escapade

The hell it was "historically unlikely". It might have not been atheists skinny dipping back then, but religious differences among the colonials let to the establishment of Providence, Rhode Island.

20 posted on 05/19/2004 11:54:45 AM PDT by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord)
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