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CIA: Chalabi Possibly Spied for Iran
FoxNews ^ | 5/20/04 | FoxNews

Posted on 05/20/2004 6:03:15 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: MJY1288
I believe Chalabi knew he was not gonna play a major role in the provisional government that will be formed in July,

My understanding is that the U.N. would have nothing to do with him. The Iraqi support is weak as well.

That is what forced his hand. He had to have Iranian support for a presidential run when the elections are held. They must have been monitoring his comm and maybe set him up.

His arrest would make a good poke in the eye for Iran.

61 posted on 05/20/2004 8:52:19 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Lex et Liberatas......Semper Vigilo, Paratus, et Fidelis!)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
"the path to eventual peace will not be a straight line".

That is for sure, but this is really good news in many ways.

The rats will try to make some hay out of it, but Clinton is up to his butt in this guy as well as are many high ranking rats.

We shall see how much they protest!

62 posted on 05/20/2004 8:57:30 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Lex et Liberatas......Semper Vigilo, Paratus, et Fidelis!)
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To: OneTimeLurker
CBS reported that he gave Iran "highly classified info." Of that's the case, who gave Chalabi this info in the first place.

Since when is CBS so concerned about Iran and "highly classified" info being passed to it?

63 posted on 05/20/2004 9:02:26 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: wagglebee
I wonder how the left will report it.

Anyway possible to either characterize Bush as an idiot or a dupe.

64 posted on 05/20/2004 9:04:56 PM PDT by PISANO (NEVER FORGET 911 !!!!)
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To: El Gato
I wouldn't trust "CIA sources" any farther than I could thrown their leader, George Tenet, who is after all a Clinton appointee. George J. Tenet became Director of Central Intelligence on July 11, 1997. As DCI, he heads the US Intelligence Community and also directs the Central Intelligence Agency. The Deputy Director of Central Intelligence is John E. McLaughlin, who was sworn in October 19, 2000. Also during the Clinton period.

According to some, the CIA has been out to jettison Chalabi from the get-go.

Either the CIA finally made their case or they finally, literally made their case, if ya know what I mean.

65 posted on 05/20/2004 9:11:49 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

Perhaps the CIA was more on top of things than the State Dept. It wouldn't be a surprise, even given the Clinton Admin/Democrat Party/Gorelick hamstringing.


66 posted on 05/20/2004 9:18:37 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Any day you wake up is a good day.)
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To: wagglebee

Hmmm...and he got $30 million out of us to boot.

Nice work if you can get it.


67 posted on 05/20/2004 9:21:04 PM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Fifth Business
Maybe the U.S. is trying to make Chalabi more acceptable to the Iraqi populace by creating a seeming rift.

You may have something there! What better way to insure a "friendly" in high places then to make him seem like he's no "toady"! It is most likely that whoever becomes Iraq's leader will be a Shiite so he might as well be OUR Shiite!
68 posted on 05/20/2004 9:24:29 PM PDT by cartoonistx
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
According to some, the CIA has been out to jettison Chalabi from the get-go.

Perhaps the CIA was more on top of things than the State Dept. It wouldn't be a surprise, even given the Clinton Admin/Democrat Party/Gorelick hamstringing.

The State Department hated Chalabi even more than the CIA, according to reports that I've seen.

69 posted on 05/20/2004 9:29:22 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

Then who was carrying HIS water? A bureacratic lamp-post like Bremmer?


70 posted on 05/20/2004 9:36:03 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Any day you wake up is a good day.)
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To: El Gato
I wouldn't trust "CIA sources" any farther than I could thrown their leader, George Tenet, who is after all a Clinton appointee. George J. Tenet became Director of Central Intelligence on July 11, 1997. As DCI, he heads the US Intelligence Community and also directs the Central Intelligence Agency. The Deputy Director of Central Intelligence is John E. McLaughlin, who was sworn in October 19, 2000. Also during the Clinton period.

It took 20 responses to find one that I can agree with. the CIA are the same ones who called WMDs a 'slam dunk', then had their own internal people crabbing against the Bush admin on same issue - Loose cannons and in-fighters. They've been against INC for years and wanted instead to deal with 'reasonable' saddam generals. okay, class, name one Saddamite general who actually defected/ surrendered like the CIA said would? hmmm. Then them and State Dept stopped INC from having a militia... just great - stopped iraqis from helping with their own security, which was the #1 problem in post-war Iraq. Dept of State made the wrong calls on these things multiple times.

Now, why the rush to give him the Bum's rush. If he's really a spy fine (I have my doubts that a pro-western politician would coddle the theocrats though) - but we already know al-sadr got $70 million from Iran and has Iranian agents in his militia's ranks (remember the Iranian funerals last month?) yet al-Sadr remains at large. The cying shame is this: we heard Chalabi home was raided. Why isnt al-Sadr's home raided? Why isnt Zarquawi's hideout raided?

Why is there news of 4 people capture relating to the Nick Berg murder and then nothing in the news? when will the murderers of the 4 American contractors be brought to justice? when h*ll freezes over? If supposed "CIA sources" know so g*8d*mn much about who spying for who, how come they cant catch the terrorists and killers of Americans in Iraq??? Enquiring minds and all.

71 posted on 05/20/2004 9:37:24 PM PDT by WOSG (Peace through Victory! Iraq victory, W victory, American victory!)
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To: madison10

That was a good call by Chalabi. He made some other good calls. Even his criticism of CPA has been on target and usually turned to be right. And DoD has said Chalabi was extremely helpful in the intelligence given to hunt down insurgents and the 'most-wanted' baathist leaders.

So, it's not surprising Chalabi was right about Saddam still being in Iraq and alive.


72 posted on 05/20/2004 9:42:06 PM PDT by WOSG (Peace through Victory! Iraq victory, W victory, American victory!)
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To: ASA Vet; leadhead
I don't know of a dirtier or crookeder guy still walking free

This a thread about the UN oil-for-food scandal and Kofi Annan? Bill Clinton? Marc Rich? BCCI? Ted Kennedy? Hugo Chavez? Bob Torricelli? Enron's Fastow?

oh, its about a character who according to anon sources may have done something bad, that something being described only vaguely. hmmm. This is like looking at a minnow and declaring it a "big whale of a fish". there are more crookeder guys walking free - IN THE UN SECURITY COUNCIL - than this particular Iraqi politician. Oh yeah, one of the crookeder politicians is an nasserite arab nationalist Algerian who now is "helping" us in the transition plan... from frying pan to fire. UGH.

73 posted on 05/20/2004 9:48:13 PM PDT by WOSG (Peace through Victory! Iraq victory, W victory, American victory!)
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To: wirestripper

"My understanding is that the U.N. would have nothing to do with him. "

The UN guy Brahimi is a Sunni Arab nationalist from Algeria, who is bigotted against the Kurds and has been giving shiite short shrift.
He has absolutely no trust among Iraqis except for the baathist-favoring section of Iraq. Do we really want that kind of 'President' for Iraq?!?!

The fact that UN guy Brahimi doesnt like Chalibi would be a point in Chalabi's favor in my book. Brahimi also doesnt want Barzani the kurdish leader in charge... Brahimi also wants to dissolve the IGC, which at this point would be a step backwards for Iraqi soveriegnty.


74 posted on 05/20/2004 9:53:52 PM PDT by WOSG (Peace through Victory! Iraq victory, W victory, American victory!)
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To: WOSG
I am not so sure that Brahimi's apparent dislike is all based on sect.

Brahimi did say, that if Chalabi wanted to run for the presidency, he had the right to.

He just did not want a politician in the interim council.

No, the U.N. lack of backing I refer to is based on Chalabi's history and the fact that he is still wanted for crimes.

You know how the U.N. is.........:-)

This guy is going to be arrested. IMO And soon!

The handover is one thing, but the elections are some 6 months after that. If Chalabi is back to his double dealings, then he needs to be out of the way. Apparently, he is guilty as charged.

75 posted on 05/20/2004 10:03:36 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Lex et Liberatas......Semper Vigilo, Paratus, et Fidelis!)
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To: WOSG

Brahimi is not to be trusted!


76 posted on 05/20/2004 10:10:06 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: wirestripper

"I am not so sure that Brahimi's apparent dislike is all based on sect."

Brahimi is a former Arab League President, and he was a big-time supporter of Saddam in that role in the early 1990s. You are right. He favors thugs over democrats - that 's my fear.

"He just did not want a politician in the interim council."

Yes. He wanted a weak interim govt that would have no personality... thus harming Iraqi sovereignty. He also wants to disband Iraq's only governing institution at the national level, thus CREATING DESTABILIZATION at the time they need stability.


"No, the U.N. lack of backing I refer to is based on Chalabi's history and the fact that he is still wanted for crimes."

Dont be such a naive fool! Brahimi himself supported a genocidal maniac from 'critics' - his name was Saddam. Algeria itself has had its share of burtality. Tens ouf thousands killed in last decade.

Today, many of those sitting on the Security Council are criminal regimes.

This is the same a**-clown UN organization that *this month* put Sudan on the *human rights committee* at the same time when Govt of Sudan is supporting a homocidal militia out killing innocent Christians by the thousands. The same organization that carries water for Arafat and his band of terrorists.

The same organization that let $10 billion get siphoned off from the Iraq oil-for-food program into Saddam's pockets and into the pockets of the powerful and the paid-off.


77 posted on 05/20/2004 10:19:41 PM PDT by WOSG (Peace through Victory! Iraq victory, W victory, American victory!)
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To: MJY1288

"Put the scumbag in the same cell with Saddam!"

I like your simple, low cost and highly effective solutions to complex problems.



78 posted on 05/20/2004 10:29:08 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (What left wing lies of the media, the DNC and foreign enemies will we expose today?)
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To: MJY1288

"I say we deliver him to Jordan, He has already been sentenced to 22 years in prison for fraud by the Jordaian Courts!"

Kudos for another highly effective and low cost solution re this POS.



79 posted on 05/20/2004 10:31:08 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (What left wing lies of the media, the DNC and foreign enemies will we expose today?)
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To: Grampa Dave

:-), I like the idea of putting a pair of panties on his head the best :-)


80 posted on 05/20/2004 10:53:17 PM PDT by MJY1288 (Our Wounded Soldiers at Walter Reed Have Yet to be Visited by John Kerry. What's he Afraid of?)
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