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Pizza Hut Fires Driver For Carrying Gun; Driver Said He Killed Armed Robber
WAVE3.com ^ | May 18th, 2004

Posted on 05/21/2004 10:15:03 AM PDT by TERMINATTOR

(INDIANAPOLIS, May 18th, 2004, 3:30 p.m.) -- A pizza delivery driver who fatally shot a man he said brandished a gun and tried to rob him was fired from his job and could face criminal charges.

Ronald B. Honeycutt shot Jerome Brown, 20, who was pronounced dead a short time after the late Monday shooting.

"I'm just satisfied it was him and not me," said Honeycutt, 38, of Carmel.

Honeycutt said he was returning to his van after making a delivery at an apartment on the city's far east side when he heard someone say "Hey, my guy" and turned to see a man approaching with a gun.

He said he pulled out his 9 mm pistol and fired all 15 rounds at close range.

Marion County Sheriff's Capt. Phil Burton said no witnesses had been found to the fatal shooting of Brown, who suffered multiple gunshot wounds.

Burton said investigators would present their findings to county prosecutors, who will decide whether any charges will be filed in the case.

After shooting Brown, Honeycutt said he picked up Brown's gun because he feared he had an accomplice, and returned to a Pizza Hut store, where detectives later met him.

He said Pizza Hut fired him for violating a company policy against carrying a gun, which he was licensed to carry.

A Pizza Hut spokeswoman, Patty Sullivan, confirmed that company policy includes a ban on carrying weapons.

Honeycutt said he had been delivering pizza for 20 years and always carried a gun.

"It's a fair job, but I don't plan on dying for it," he said.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: 2a; 9mm15rounds; bang; banglist; brandishedagun; companypolicy; fired; licensedtocarry; pizzahut; pronounceddead; ronaldhoneycutt; selfdefense
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The moral of the story is, never brandish during a gun fight!
1 posted on 05/21/2004 10:15:09 AM PDT by TERMINATTOR
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To: TERMINATTOR
I have bought my last Pizz Hut pizza.

So9

2 posted on 05/21/2004 10:18:48 AM PDT by Servant of the 9 (Screwing the Inscrutable or is it Scruting the Inscrewable?)
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To: *bang_list

Earlier thread about this same shooting:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1137793/posts


3 posted on 05/21/2004 10:19:07 AM PDT by Fixit (My Pitiful Blog - http://comedian.blogspot.com)
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To: TERMINATTOR
fired from his job

Better to be fired by one than carried by six.

4 posted on 05/21/2004 10:19:26 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: *bang_list

Here's hoping things are as represented, and for a happy ending.


5 posted on 05/21/2004 10:19:26 AM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: TERMINATTOR
My favorite quote surrounding this story:

http://www.indystar.com/articles/5/147538-6355-093.html

Honeycutt said he was fired from his job because he had violated the store policy against carrying a gun, which he was licensed to carry.

"It's my life. I choose which policy to follow."


6 posted on 05/21/2004 10:20:55 AM PDT by Fixit (My Pitiful Blog - http://comedian.blogspot.com)
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To: TERMINATTOR
He said he pulled out his 9 mm pistol and fired all 15 rounds at close range. Marion County Sheriff's Capt. Phil Burton said no witnesses had been found to the fatal shooting of Brown, who suffered multiple gunshot wounds.

I don't even fire 15 consecutive shots when at the firing range! Must have been some sight!

7 posted on 05/21/2004 10:21:29 AM PDT by cinFLA
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Pizza Hut Fires Driver For Carrying Gun; Driver Said He Killed Armed Robber

I'd rather have my LIFE, than my Pizza Hut job.

8 posted on 05/21/2004 10:21:42 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: TERMINATTOR

38 years old and fired from Pizza Hut... maybe now he can get a real grown up job.


9 posted on 05/21/2004 10:23:38 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (John F-ing Kerry??? NO... F-ING... WAY!!!)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

Check the story...he's been delivering for 20 years. Plenty of people make a very decent living delivering pizzas full time.


10 posted on 05/21/2004 10:28:48 AM PDT by craig_eddy
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To: cinFLA

"I don't even fire 15 consecutive shots when at the firing range! Must have been some sight!"

I wonder how many rounds hit the assailant.


11 posted on 05/21/2004 10:33:20 AM PDT by baldie (self-inflicted)
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To: TERMINATTOR

OH does this SUCK! This is the same cr4p that made me stop ordering from dumb-in-nose! That and their pizza doesn't cut it. Pizza hut, on the other hand, is my favorite, Great sauce, and that pan crust.....mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

The company has a right to set their own policy, but why do corporate fops (suits) have to be so stupid!?!? A driver, complying with unconstitutional laws, and getting himself trained, is the best deterrant to drivers getting jacked. Bet there will be a drop in delivery drivers getting jumped......oh wait, he is in trouble for defending himself, so the lawless will simply be a little more careful.

Guess the email campaign to Pizza Hut will need to begin.

Stay alert,
Pete


12 posted on 05/21/2004 10:38:01 AM PDT by petro45acp ("Government might not be too bad...................if it weren't for all the polititians!")
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To: TERMINATTOR

Well he can have lots of fun and sue the hell out of Pizza Hut for firing him when he only defended himself in a robbery. Pizza Hut's position by firing is that all people delivering pizza should be subject to being robbed and are never expected to defend themselves and life when they have the means to do so.

Great Pizza Hut ad, isn't it?

No Pizza Hut for me based on this story. They will pay for this with the loss of the $10 I would have spent in their store over the course of 2 years and that is that! :-)


13 posted on 05/21/2004 10:44:47 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: TERMINATTOR
He said Pizza Hut fired him for violating a company policy against carrying a gun, which he was licensed to carry.

NOpe - we can't have our employees defending themselves....it just wouldn't be safe.....

14 posted on 05/21/2004 10:54:08 AM PDT by TheBattman (Leadership = http://www.georgewbush.com/)
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To: petro45acp
Guess the email campaign to Pizza Hut will need to begin.

Instead of e-mailing Pizza Hut, let'sjust publicize the no-carry policy as much as possible. Instead, e-mail Hannity and Limbaugh to tell the world "Pizza Hut drivers carry cash but no guns!" After a wave of robberies, the policy will get changed.

15 posted on 05/21/2004 10:55:30 AM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: Servant of the 9

bump. I think Pizza Hut needs a FReeping.


16 posted on 05/21/2004 10:58:15 AM PDT by Liberatio (Please forgive my misspelling)
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To: baldie

Apparently, the right number found their mark.


Seriously, there is no need to start a campaign against Pizza Hut. They have a policy (that protects them from potential lawsuits). The driver choose to work their regardless of the policy. It was his choice to ignore the policy. If he didn't like the policy he could have started his own Pizza chain.

Possible names... Lock and Loaded Pizza, Trigger-Happy Pizza,

Possible slogan...Our Pizza Hits the Spot.


17 posted on 05/21/2004 11:04:10 AM PDT by proudpapa (of three.)
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To: TERMINATTOR

My comments: I think this guy was a little bit shook up to begin with, having been hassled on the previous delivery. He fired 15 rounds at close range, 3 to 5 feet, and the guy died later at the hospital. He must have missed most of his shots. I thought the true meaning of "gun control" is hitting your target the first time, and putting him or her down (dead). The perp was stupid enough to pull an unloaded weapon, which was lucky for the driver.

Of course coolness in this type of situation is not to be expected, even in from experienced gunfighters. Along this line, I think of the gunfight at the OK Corral, where some 30 shots were fired at not more than 15-20 feet by some allegedly excellent gunfighters, but only 12 hit or grazed the opponents, including Doc Holliday's shotgun blasts.

I also noticed that he stated that he had drawn his weapon in self-defense previously, probably preventing several robberies or worse, and saving Pizza Hut some revenue. So screw Pizza Hut, but what other policy could Pizza Hut have chosen? They would risk boycotts by gun-control nuts if they chose to allow delivery personnel to carry, not to mention the liability. The perp's survivors will no doubt sue Pizza Hut in an attempt for free pizza for life.


18 posted on 05/21/2004 11:29:24 AM PDT by KAUAIBOUND (Hawaii - a Socialist paradise for left-wing cockroaches)
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To: TERMINATTOR

"No good deed goes unpunished."


19 posted on 05/21/2004 11:55:14 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: TERMINATTOR
Pizza Hut is bloody stupid for not allowing their delivery drivers go out without a means to defend themselves.

With human life meaning less and less these days, for Pizza Hut to continue to have this policy is nothing short of dangerous.

Perhaps if the family of a pizza delivery driver who was killed sued the employer for not allowing the driver to carry a gun, this would change.

I do not believe there is not a slimy shyster lawyer who would not take the case.

20 posted on 05/21/2004 12:57:24 PM PDT by Houmatt (Dru's Law. Before the next victim is someone you know.)
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