Posted on 05/22/2004 4:54:17 PM PDT by TERMINATTOR
No, you should not ever have a Concealed Carry Permit.
Because you should never need a permit to exercise your God given right to keep and bear arms.
It is exactly that good men like you ( I know you to be a good man because I have been following the TT thread. God knows your heart.) are prevented from packing under our laws that make the passing and enforcing of those laws a crime.
Name one, other than something that would be equally illegal regardless of the weapon used, such as assault with a deadly weapon, armed robbery, and so forth. Maybe add to that laws against felons' in possession, but maybe not, since until quite recently even convicted felons rights, including the RKBA, were restored once they had served their time. Anything which prohibits otherwise peaceable citizens from exercising their RKBA is on it's face an infringement of that RKBA which the Constitution says belongs to "the people" and commands that commands that it "shall not be infringed". You know, the Constitution, highest law of the land, which binds "the Judges in every State". That Constitution.
It doesn't have to make sense, it's the law. (Well it has the color of law at least)
My point was that we think of felonies as crimes like robbery, rape, murder, etc., but people can get caught in the legal system just like I did.
Under the laws of some states, I would never be allowed to have a CCP.
I agree 100% with you that carrying a firearm is a God given right.
"Right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" leaves little or no room for there to be "illegal arms".
Let's say the people of Chicago, via the city council, decide they want their city free of guns.
Should Chicago be permitted to ban its residents from owning and keeping guns in their homes?
Congratulations on your new almost legal open carry "law". I believe if you extended recognition of that right to out of state residents, it might actually be law. You don't really believe that the fed gov owns most of Alaska, do you? Under the limited powers granted to the fed gov by the Constitution, they may have some ports, military instalations, and maybe post offices, but that's about all. Any or all of these priveleges may be revoked by the people at their discretion. Yeah, we've got a long way to go here in Cali. Don't mean to whine, but you've got to recognise the problem before you can fix it. Best regards.
Anyone committing the above crimes should be hanged on the courthouse lawn exactly one week after conviction, with vendors present selling hotdogs and popcorn.
All others should have thier full civil rights restored, IMNSHO.
I agree 100% with you that carrying a firearm is a God given right.
It is not just a God given right. It is our duty. Jesus told his followers to acquire arms, even at the expense of selling thier clothing (36Luke22).
How else are we to protect our sisters and our freedoms which are indeed God given?
What you really mean is the power of some to decide how other people are going to live their lives. That's what such "social engineering" schemes come down to. They are the antithesis of liberty.
No wonder you choose to live in Texas, where you can own a .50 BMG sniper rifle.
For the information of those who don't know, he does own just a such fine piece of armament, and I'm green with envy, but unfortunatly not with the money to own and shoot one myself. :(.
You've got to be thinking of that hanging scene in True Grit. Judge Parker knew how to handle them rats!
Well that wasn't what I was thinking of, but it certainly fits the bill. One of my favorite movies of all time. Some of the best dialogue ever.
Now I know that is pretty complicated, what with it being written in plain old English and all, but it is the LAW of the land.
Anything contrary to it is illegal.
In your opinion, should the Second Amendment apply to State and local governments?
Well, there's a bunch of other reasons, Gato, but that's one.
For any Texan who's interested, it's possible to get a felony expunged from your record in a case like mine.
'Course, if you've murdered someone or raped someone, then Texans would like to expunge you !
Gato, you don't need money to shoot a .50 caliber sniper rifle.
Anytime we have a shoot I'll be there, and you can shoot till your shoulder falls off free of charge.
If a state wishes to provide in its criminal code that someone convicted of certain crimes shall be barred from firearm ownership for some duration or indefinitely as a specific part of the sentence, I would see no constitutional basis for objection.
Where does the federal government get any authority to pass any legislation on such matters, and where does any government get the authority to impose such conditions on a person retroactively for crimes committed before such legislation was enacted?
This is one nation now since 1865; states follow, they do not lead or stand apart.
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