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"THE" Reason We Went Into Iraq
Inside Scoop - Fox News Channel ^ | Sunday, 5-23-2004 | Eric Shawn & John Loftus

Posted on 05/23/2004 3:53:42 PM PDT by Matchett-PI

Edited on 05/23/2004 5:21:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Congressman Billybob

fyi


41 posted on 05/23/2004 4:41:29 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: aft_lizard
"we infiltrated into Libya using a seal team and destroyed a meating between Iraqi and Libyan..."

A "meating" between these 2 would be pretty gross, and I'm glad our guys stopped it. :)

42 posted on 05/23/2004 4:42:42 PM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: Lunatic Fringe

That's a good point. It's not important whether this Admininstration is fabulously popular today. It matters in late October.


43 posted on 05/23/2004 4:43:15 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
If this is correct, why isn't the administration touting it?

A. To reap the maximum intel benefit.
B. To nail down ALL the pieces.
C. Giving the Rats lots of rope
D. Waiting for the right moment, say, October....

heh heh heh
44 posted on 05/23/2004 4:43:17 PM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Dog Gone

...The administration wants to be re-elected. I'll wait till then. After the election, I want answers. Right now GWB has the benefit of the doubt, only because of the war on terror...


45 posted on 05/23/2004 4:43:18 PM PDT by gargoyle
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To: Dog Gone
If this is correct, why isn't the administration touting it?

Because it would panic the markets - and panic in the markets is even more negative for Bush's reelection chances than the false accusation that there never were any WMD's.

46 posted on 05/23/2004 4:47:27 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Matchett-PI; Admin Moderator

AM, Can you untrim this please? I have no idea what this is about, and I would really like to know.


47 posted on 05/23/2004 4:48:32 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Stop the war. ********** NUKE EM NOW !)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks Ernest. Everything is starting to match up now. All this stuff is going to be revealed and layed out by the President in a nice neat package. The question is when?


48 posted on 05/23/2004 4:48:49 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: JLS

Keep you powder dry until October.


49 posted on 05/23/2004 4:48:59 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Dog Gone

Same reason they're not touting the OKC connections to Iraq.


50 posted on 05/23/2004 4:49:44 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Stop the war. ********** NUKE EM NOW !)
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To: HighWheeler

BTTT!! Great addition to the thread!


51 posted on 05/23/2004 4:52:44 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (Entrenched DemocRAT union-backed bureaucrats quietly sabotage President Bush every day.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

I don't see how a plot defused would panic the markets.


52 posted on 05/23/2004 4:53:47 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Matchett-PI; All
Wait...you know what this means don't you???

Yep, Saddam was OUTSOURCING!

53 posted on 05/23/2004 4:54:10 PM PDT by NordP (While our nation is at war w/ worldwide terrorism, the democrat party is at war w/ the President.)
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To: ovrtaxt
For the record.....any reference to that marvelous Navy club should be spelt SEAL's.

ALL CAPS PLEASE!

THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

woops.......thanks loads...boooyah!!!!!!!

54 posted on 05/23/2004 4:56:21 PM PDT by Fighting Irish
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To: HighWheeler; Matchett-PI

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20030923-101959-4113r.htm


55 posted on 05/23/2004 5:03:27 PM PDT by pookie18
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To: pookie18

Thanks for the link!


56 posted on 05/23/2004 5:07:58 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (Entrenched DemocRAT union-backed bureaucrats quietly sabotage President Bush every day.)
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To: HighWheeler
Well, it must be true then if a U.S. Judge ruled as such.

Guess there's no longer a need for commissions, investigators, even the FBI.

Just take it to court and the judge will tell you if it's true or false.

</sarcasm>

57 posted on 05/23/2004 5:09:19 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: True Capitalist
I've seen Loftus a number of times, and met him once. He strikes me as a DEBKA-type source. He always offers extraordinary stuff, but half the time it doesn't pan out. I'll wait to see this confirmed by other sources.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column, "How About 'The No Bullsh*t News'?"

58 posted on 05/23/2004 5:12:24 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: logician2u

The judge heard testimony from former CIA director James Woolsey, Laurie Mylroie, etc., before ruling.


59 posted on 05/23/2004 5:13:52 PM PDT by pookie18
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Here's a copy of the full transcript just in case Jim Robinson doesn't agree to restoring what the admin.moderator deleted. Jim requested a copy by personal freepmail and I sent it to him. Hopefully he will decide to restore it.

Fox News Channel http://www.foxnews.com Inside Scoop- Sunday, 5-23-2004 11:20 AM Host Eric Shawn

Guest: John Loftus (the author of four histories about Intelligence operations, a consultant for CBS 60 MINUTES and ABC - PRIME TIME, among others. He was a prosecutor with the U.S. Justice Department Nazi hunting unit with unprecedented access to top secret C.I.A. and NATO archives)

Under discussion is this story in the NY Times today:

Evidence Is Cited Linking Koreans to Libya Uranium
New York Times ^ | 5/23/04 | DAVID E. SANGER and WILLIAM J. BROAD
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1140538/posts

Transcribed by me from my videotape:

Eric Shawn: "John Loftus told us about it months ago right here on Inside Scoop. John, that's why we call it, 'Inside Scoop' - you beat the New York Times again. Congratulations!"

John Loftus: "Thank you very much."

Eric: "How do you do it?"

John: "Well, ummm, this little country lawyer used to have a Q clearance for nuclear weapons secrets and I was told about this amazing wiretap where British Intelligence overheard a call from North Korea to Libya saying, 'My god, if the Americans ever go into Iraq, they're going to find out about our nuclear program. And who's going to pay all the Iraqi nuclear scientists in Libya if Saddam falls?''"

Eric: "You're saying before the war there were Iraqi nuclear scientists working on a potential bomb in Libya before we launched this [war in Iraq]?

John: "Yeah. This was a treaty signed by a man called Ali Sobree (sp?). He was the foreign minister of Iraq. And he went to Khadafy and they worked out a whole protocol. Khadafy would donate a hollowed out mountain in Libya; Iraq would provide the nuclear scientists, and North Korea would provide the uranium. And they would literally make a factory for nuclear weapons. And once that factory was complete, we had lost the war on terrorism. People don't realize that even a small nuclear weapon can kill 300,000 people. That's one hundred 9-11's. So that's why we put [garbled] bin Laden on the back burner -- we were really focusing on getting the Ali Sobree protocol - we had to smash that ring."

Eric: "Now when you talk about Saddam and the war on terror - we've had conversations - your indication is that President Bush understood this after 9-11 and he was mostly concerned about a nuclear bomb from Libya or Iraq or Iran."

John: "Eric, that's EXACTLY it. Within a month after 9-11, British wiretaps showed that we had a MAJOR risk. Nuclear weapons in terrorist's hands would be devastating. And that's why the president said, 'OK, we're gonna shift the emphasis from Afghanistan and Osama bin Laden. We're gonna go into Iraq - that's where the evidence is - we have to capture Ali Sobree."

Eric: "Yeah, but critics say, 'Oh the war is about oil' - ' The war is about democracy'. You say there's someting else going on. ..."

John: "This is absolutely necessary, Eric. Had we not smashed the program, within the next 3 or 4 months - on the schedule they were on - Libya would have finished the nuclear factory - we couldn't touch it. We were designing nuclear bunker-busters to try and get into the mountain [but] even that wouldn't work. Once the Islamic bomb was finished - America - the rest of the western nations were finished. We couldn't stand city after city evaporating by nuclear weapons."

Eric: "In other words, going into Iraq, in your view, having Khadafy now basically give up and surrender everything to us, getting the connection to North Korea and Iran - was a major strategy in the war on terror?"

John: "It was THE major strategy. Khadafy has now confirmed he is going to hand the Ali Sobree protocols over to the United States. Sobree, himself, is now in US custody and he is already scheduled as one of the first three witnesses in the trial of Saddam Hussein.

Sadam's biggest crime? While he was starving his own people to death, his money and his scientists were hiding in Libya to make a factory for nuclear weapons to attack any major power in the world." ..."


60 posted on 05/23/2004 5:15:35 PM PDT by Matchett-PI (Entrenched DemocRAT union-backed bureaucrats quietly sabotage President Bush every day.)
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