Ad hominem. Just the facts ma'am.
Your position is devoid of logic.
Projection. If what you wrote was true then you should be able to demonstrate how it is true using the laws of logic without the fallacies (ad hominem, etc.)...that is...if you understand the laws of logic.
Goodness, even I can think of reasons that you have not provided as to why secession might not be necessary or optional yet. Do I really need to help you make your argument???
Since you've yet to answer my question regarding why the American revolution was justified, I must infer that you simply have not thought your position through and therefore you're not prepared.
Your movement will fail. You will likely do damage to those that try to accomplish your goals within the framework of the Constitution.
Expressing you preference is not an adequate answer.
You are simply wrong about America, but no argument will dissuade you.
No argument has been offered by you...beyond an ad hominem fallacy along with other fallacies. I'm still waiting, Einstein.
I oppose you and everything you are doing...
Duh.
fortunately your movement does not deserve to be taken seriously...
Then why have you taken it so seriously as to spend so much time emoting about it without providing one sound reason against it?
...I probably give it too much credit by even engaging in a dialog with you.
I guess I should spare you. I probably should not have entered into an intellectual battle with an unarmed foe.
Being an American is more than an excercise in debating technicality and terminology.
You're like a Monty Python skit......screaming "Ad Hominem", ad nauseum.
It's not Ad hominem - you are under the delusion that you are going to get your own country. That you think you can is a position devoid of logic.
I don't care what your reasons for secession are, though I understand them as you have stated them. I will not debate them, though I could in the abstract. They are simply wrong minded, and un-American.
I will be happy to discuss the American Revolution with you in a separate thread. You are not about the American Revolution, and to attempt to link your opinion about the American Revolution as some justification or roadmap for the lunacy you are espousing makes you a <***Ad Hominem Deleted***>.
It is not merely my preference that your movement fail, I would be prepared to personally act to contribute to it's failure if that were ever necessary, which, of course, it won't be.
Intellectual discussion? no, this never has been in danger of being an intellectual discussion. The topic isn't serious enough to warrant serious intellectual horsepower....and I haven't seen too much intellect out of you either, junior.
....and YES! I "emote" about being an American, when I encounter fellow citizens attempting to devalue MY country. Patriotism, my friend, involves a willingess to "emote" from time-to-time, a willingess to serve, and a willingess to fight for what you believe within the context of the Constitution.
That you so easily give up on America (and let me interrupt your retort.....America hasn't given up on anybody, not even you) is amazing to me.
I still feel a surge of pride when I sing the national anthem, I feel proud when I say the pledge of allegiance at a function with my kids. Refocus your efforts at your own patriotism instead of this grandstanding secession nonsense. Sure, it won't bring as much attention to you, but it's not about you (or is it?) - it's about your country, and your fellow Americans.
fight for change, not secession. It doesn't take an Einstein to figure that out.
Cheers!