Being an American is more than an excercise in debating technicality and terminology.
You're like a Monty Python skit......screaming "Ad Hominem", ad nauseum.
It's not Ad hominem - you are under the delusion that you are going to get your own country. That you think you can is a position devoid of logic.
I don't care what your reasons for secession are, though I understand them as you have stated them. I will not debate them, though I could in the abstract. They are simply wrong minded, and un-American.
I will be happy to discuss the American Revolution with you in a separate thread. You are not about the American Revolution, and to attempt to link your opinion about the American Revolution as some justification or roadmap for the lunacy you are espousing makes you a <***Ad Hominem Deleted***>.
It is not merely my preference that your movement fail, I would be prepared to personally act to contribute to it's failure if that were ever necessary, which, of course, it won't be.
Intellectual discussion? no, this never has been in danger of being an intellectual discussion. The topic isn't serious enough to warrant serious intellectual horsepower....and I haven't seen too much intellect out of you either, junior.
....and YES! I "emote" about being an American, when I encounter fellow citizens attempting to devalue MY country. Patriotism, my friend, involves a willingess to "emote" from time-to-time, a willingess to serve, and a willingess to fight for what you believe within the context of the Constitution.
That you so easily give up on America (and let me interrupt your retort.....America hasn't given up on anybody, not even you) is amazing to me.
I still feel a surge of pride when I sing the national anthem, I feel proud when I say the pledge of allegiance at a function with my kids. Refocus your efforts at your own patriotism instead of this grandstanding secession nonsense. Sure, it won't bring as much attention to you, but it's not about you (or is it?) - it's about your country, and your fellow Americans.
fight for change, not secession. It doesn't take an Einstein to figure that out.
Cheers!
You've yet to demonstrate how. I'm still waiting.
I don't care what your reasons for secession are, though I understand them as you have stated them. I will not debate them, though I could in the abstract. They are simply wrong minded, and un-American.
In other words, you know I'm wrong, but you just can't explain how.
I will be happy to discuss the American Revolution with you in a separate thread. You are not about the American Revolution, and to attempt to link your opinion about the American Revolution as some justification or roadmap for the lunacy you are espousing makes you a <***Ad Hominem Deleted***>.
To the contrary, if you cannot provide a basis as to why the revolution was justified but a secession would not be justified, then it's all sound and fury signifying nothing. You are simple stating a preference for one over the other.
I would be prepared to personally act to contribute to it's failure if that were ever necessary
So would a lot of other atheistic communists.
Intellectual discussion? no, this never has been in danger of being an intellectual discussion.
You've seen to that.
The topic isn't serious enough to warrant serious intellectual horsepower....and I haven't seen too much intellect out of you either, junior.
In other words, "I just feel you're wrong, but I could never demonstrate by reason that you're wrong."
Patriotism, my friend, involves a willingess to "emote" from time-to-time
It also involves a willingness for you to think at least for once.
That you so easily give up on America (and let me interrupt your retort...
"So easily"??? What have you been injecting into your arm?!? 40 million murdered unborn children, the assault on religious liberty, gay marriages, and you still think it's all no big deal.
Like I said, I should not engage in intellectual battle with an unarmed foe. And you wouldn't know anything about the necessary armaments. But PLEASE for goodness sake learn something about the rules of proper reason. You're making yourself look stupid.