You've yet to demonstrate how. I'm still waiting.
I don't care what your reasons for secession are, though I understand them as you have stated them. I will not debate them, though I could in the abstract. They are simply wrong minded, and un-American.
In other words, you know I'm wrong, but you just can't explain how.
I will be happy to discuss the American Revolution with you in a separate thread. You are not about the American Revolution, and to attempt to link your opinion about the American Revolution as some justification or roadmap for the lunacy you are espousing makes you a <***Ad Hominem Deleted***>.
To the contrary, if you cannot provide a basis as to why the revolution was justified but a secession would not be justified, then it's all sound and fury signifying nothing. You are simple stating a preference for one over the other.
I would be prepared to personally act to contribute to it's failure if that were ever necessary
So would a lot of other atheistic communists.
Intellectual discussion? no, this never has been in danger of being an intellectual discussion.
You've seen to that.
The topic isn't serious enough to warrant serious intellectual horsepower....and I haven't seen too much intellect out of you either, junior.
In other words, "I just feel you're wrong, but I could never demonstrate by reason that you're wrong."
Patriotism, my friend, involves a willingess to "emote" from time-to-time
It also involves a willingness for you to think at least for once.
That you so easily give up on America (and let me interrupt your retort...
"So easily"??? What have you been injecting into your arm?!? 40 million murdered unborn children, the assault on religious liberty, gay marriages, and you still think it's all no big deal.
Like I said, I should not engage in intellectual battle with an unarmed foe. And you wouldn't know anything about the necessary armaments. But PLEASE for goodness sake learn something about the rules of proper reason. You're making yourself look stupid.
"You've yet to demonstrate how. I'm still waiting."
What's for ME to demonstrate? I still don't know how you are going to get your own country, as you haven't explained it.....merely stating that a "slow, process" and setting some arbitrary advanced date. demonstrate to me how this is workable......let's just take it from a financial point of view......how are you going to finance your portion of the National Debt?
"It also involves a willingness for you to think at least for once."
I've thought and decided......seems you are the one still thinking about your patriotism, and can't decide....
"To the contrary, if you cannot provide a basis as to why the revolution was justified but a secession would not be justified, then it's all sound and fury signifying nothing. You are simple stating a preference for one over the other. "
To what point would arguing whether the AR was justified be about? Even if it wasn't justified, it happened. That honorable men like George Washington thought it necessary is good enough for me.....Or do you think you know better than him?
"So would a lot of other atheistic communists."
Now THIS is a carefully crafted "Ad Hominem".....congratulations, you finally found a real one.
"You've seen to that. "
LOL....
"So easily"??? What have you been injecting into your arm?!? 40 million murdered unborn children, the assault on religious liberty, gay marriages, and you still think it's all no big deal. "
Again, juvenile use of the Ad Hominem, can't you be just a little more clever?......Ok, so your point is this: Since we are all Americans we all support and/or engage in this behavior? What have you done to change this that you do not like about your country? Why can't it be changed within the political system. How are you going to stop this within your own hypothetical country?
"I should not engage in intellectual battle with an unarmed foe"
.....and this is the best you've got? Let's just say you fall short of "shock and awe" in a battle of intellectual armaments.......
"You're making yourself look stupid."
Well, it wouldn't be the first time, or probably the last. Are you so sure that you come off as a reasoned, informed debater, patriot and statesman?
I haven't seen anything from you to indicate you shouldn't be treated as the secessionist traitor that you are. If you were not so ineffective in communicating your points, someone might even consider a visit from the FBI just to check things out....